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Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money?
    #21958987 - 07/18/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I was approached by an asian lady today she had needle marks all over her arms and her face looks all fucked up from meth (I think). I was smoking a cigarette and she just sat down next to me and light up a cig as well. I thought she was going to ask for money but she didn't so I asked her whats up and she said nothing and looked very sick she was pale and sweating bad. It seemed like she was having withdrawals and had been crying so I asked her if she likes to party she sorta smiled and said sometimes and I said well if your sick from not partying I can give you twenty dollars if you need it.

She knew what I meant so she took my money thanked me and left but I feel bad about it she was obviously buying some seriously fucked up drugs but she was sick like bad so I helped her out. Do you guys think that was bad of me she looked like she needed it even though I think that stuff is messed up. Idk what would you guys do if that happend to you?


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21959009 - 07/18/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would party with her.






























Not.really, i would probably have not.even.talked to her, because I'm that kinda person.

Besides, i need my drugs more than her.:lol: Maybe i.would spark a lil conversation, then offer her a frsd hit of L.:rofl:


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21959010 - 07/18/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A junkie is going to be a junkie. If you're okay with feeding their habits, go for it. You're not going to make them clean up by denying them the money. If they're begging you're also not going to encourage or discourage them by whatever decision you make (let's face it, if they get the money even once they'll just keep doing it and there is always going to be those one or two people who give it to them).

I won't give money to people to fund their habits. I don't really see anything wrong it in theory, I'm just not rich enough to be giving money away. I also won't give random beggars money on principal. Where I live, all the beggars are well known, at least to me and my wife. We both have had to run them all off store property as managers so many times (customer complains to a manager about it, we have to act) that we recognize every single one. I mean maybe I'm wrong and these people need a loaf of bread and gallon of milk every single day, but I kinda doubt I am. If I am wrong, I'd like to know how they consumed a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk in the 10-20 minute window it takes for them to get the same amount of money from the next person who gives it to them (it's not like if they get what they needed originally they just leave).


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21959030 - 07/18/15 01:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The thing is that I saw her feeling bad like really bad it looked like she was in physical pain. I just don't like to see anyone go through that so I figured if I gave her the 20 she would be able to get enough to stop being sick. I was just thinking about if I was in her shoes. But idk it may have been better if I just let her withdrawal she would could have gone sober. However she was on some seriously addictive drugs she looked like somebody who was close to dying from sickness. Idk though...


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25] * 3
    #21959059 - 07/18/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Atreyu] * 1
    #21959080 - 07/18/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've given junkies and homeless people hits and bags of dope--never leave behind a sick junkie!

In fact, I am much more likely to give a homeless person money or drugs, if they are simply honest with me and say, "I'm really sick and withdrawing right now." I can empathize with that, and I'm much more likely to give them money rather than if they were to come up with some fake sob story or lie.


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Crystal G]
    #21959114 - 07/18/15 02:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I was addicted to opiates and have gotten clean since.
I don't like enabling other people using because I saw what it did to my life and believe that life is better without addiction.
I would rather give them words of encouragement for going through withdrawals.

Maybe that's hokey, but I think giving them money so they can just delay the inevitable is a little short-sighted.
It would make me feel better in the immediate moment, but the question of ethics would make me feel a little guilty later on.


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Crystal G]
    #21959126 - 07/18/15 02:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think it's wrong, because it's not your job to police another person's behavior or what they do with the money, once that money leaves your hand.

If you want to control what they do, then don't give money to people, there are plenty of other things you can give like food, coffee(dunno if it'll be appreciated, because I've seen a homeless dude throw a slice of pizza at a cop who bought it for him).

I have given some very obvious junkies dollars before. I don't know why...I've never been addicted or dopesick or anything, so it's not like I really know how bad it is, but I feel like it's better that someone is asking people for money than robbing people or stealing copper or whatever.

When I smoked I would usually decline to give money to people(unless they were homeless folks I came to know because they were always at one spot), but I gave them all the cigarettes they wanted. Is that morally right? Idk, but I never felt bad about it or like I was doing anything wrong.


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #21959187 - 07/18/15 03:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would have made her suck my dick first


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: my3rdeye] * 2
    #21959207 - 07/18/15 03:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I would have made her suck my dick first




I don't know if you're joking, but if you aren't, that's pretty disgusting. You are preying and taking advantage of people who are in desperate situations. If you were being serious, then you're no better than those scumbags who created Bumfights. That is the one and only person on this earth who I would gladly put a bullet in his head, and even LEO's would probably give me high-fives while arresting me.


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Crystal G]
    #21959219 - 07/18/15 03:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

People need their fix :shrug:
I guess it shows you have some good empathy skills, and there is nothing wrong with that.
It's the people who can not empathize with other humans and act like everyone beneath their station is not worth their time and money that are truly disgusting creatures.


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21959231 - 07/18/15 04:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There's nothing categorically wrong with it.  Some people may take personal issue with the idea based on their world view, but it's a neutral action to hand someone something of yours to keep.


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25] * 1
    #21959286 - 07/18/15 04:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think it's wrong to do, I don't often do it though.

Being dope sick is terrible, if she was an opiate addict that was WDing, then I'm sure she thanks you, being sick sucks, I can't even imagine being sick and living on the streets...


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: PLURAL]
    #21959321 - 07/18/15 05:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes it is. Damn dude.


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Crystal G]
    #21959341 - 07/18/15 05:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I would have made her suck my dick first




I don't know if you're joking, but if you aren't, that's pretty disgusting. You are preying and taking advantage of people who are in desperate situations. If you were being serious, then you're no better than those scumbags who created Bumfights. That is the one and only person on this earth who I would gladly put a bullet in his head, and even LEO's would probably give me high-fives while arresting me.




What is wrong with asking junkies to earn that 20? If I just give you money that is enabling. I don't care if you are addicted. Maybe you will stop and think during that 20 dollar blow job just low you sank, and it will help kick the habit. You need to hit rock bottom. Anyway I prefer chicks in the early stages of addiction before they get covered in sores and shit. I have crack at home just in case of that scenario, I don't even smoke it myself.
Those bumfights guys fell off, the last one I saw was half fake shit. How can you even say those hobos are not better off now? Here is Rufus the stunt bum now:


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Matt87] * 1
    #21959342 - 07/18/15 05:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Is it wrong to give hay to a sick horse?


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: my3rdeye] * 1
    #21959994 - 07/18/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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my3rdeye said:
I would have made her suck my dick first




I don't know if you're joking, but if you aren't, that's pretty disgusting. You are preying and taking advantage of people who are in desperate situations. If you were being serious, then you're no better than those scumbags who created Bumfights. That is the one and only person on this earth who I would gladly put a bullet in his head, and even LEO's would probably give me high-fives while arresting me.




What is wrong with asking junkies to earn that 20? If I just give you money that is enabling. I don't care if you are addicted. Maybe you will stop and think during that 20 dollar blow job just low you sank, and it will help kick the habit. You need to hit rock bottom. Anyway I prefer chicks in the early stages of addiction before they get covered in sores and shit. I have crack at home just in case of that scenario, I don't even smoke it myself.




If I had asked im 100% sure she would have but its just wrong. Its no different than rape or extortion she is obviously not in her right mind and would do anything to make it stop. Is so bad to just help another person out because she is a human and we need to look out for one another? It may have been a temporary fix but I figured 20 is not enough to get a lot so maybe she would lean herself off. That was just my hope she probably is out there again sick as a dog.


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21960017 - 07/18/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Duh. Of course she is.


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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21960090 - 07/18/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd love it if people would give me money to buy drugs.

Like

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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25] * 1
    #21960134 - 07/18/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I'm sure she is in the same boat again, at least you helped her feel better fo a few hours.

Like I said, I woudn't've done it, but there's nothing wrong with what you did, although you shouldn't fool yourself into thinking you somehow helped her get better, other than that you helped her put off dope-sickness for a few hours.

Which don't get me wrong, in the depths of my worse dope-sickness I'd go to some great lengths to postpone withdrawals, even just for a few hours, it can be hell, especially if you're on the streets, you did a good deed, it's not going to have a profound effect though.

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