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What to do with excess truffles
#21958812 - 07/18/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I recently made a topic about the truffles i had ordered..
I ordered 10 15G packs, the sender ended up sending the order twice. So i have 20 15G packages of atlantis truffles.
Two were modly, so I threw them out..People say wait about a week in between trips, I work 2-11 almost every day, but I happened to take off the 21st-26th off this coming week..I didn't plan on having the truffles, I didn't think they would come to be honest.
Heres my pickle, people say they are good for weeks in the packages, they are vacuum sealed. I have them in the fridge right now. I don't want to waste the magic of them by taking them too often, is there any way to keep them longer?
I may take 15G and smoke come caapi on the comeup on monday, and take more later on in the week.
I just don't want to waste them, since they did come, and i have roughly 15 trips to get out of them, thats give or take 4 months worth of trips a week apart.
My sister, who got me into psychedelics is going to get some, we may go camping tues-fri, I told her how much I had, how much it cost me, and I am willing to just give her some if she will use them.
Is the freezer a better bet, then defrost and take as usual when I want to trip to prolong the shelf life of these?
It took a little under a month to get them after I sent the money through bank transfer, and about 2 and half weeks for them to reach me after they were shipped. That will give a estimate on how "fresh" they are. They are wet, not dried ones.
I will also be smoking some high grade weed when tripping, today was my first day I did not smoke in about two months, I smoked too much the last couple months, a total of 2 and 1/2 oz. I have 1/2 oz left, but don't want to keep smoking and not have any for when I will really want it, when im tripping.
I am also happy to say, I think I can give up the "shroom like" drugs, anything that would make you trip that was easily obtained, lsa, laa(lsh), mescaline, the red shroom whatever its called, but I would like to mabey try the last of my dmt extract I had over this winter with these shrooms, I tossed my lsa extract, I would say i had atleast 50+ doses, I did a extract on 1000 hwbr seeds and only tripped three times off of it, and hated every one of them. the LAA(LSH), severe breathing constriction, a ego-death moment I would say.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: LSDollar]
#21958888 - 07/18/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why don't you dry them, fan dry for 24-48 hours then buy some calcium chloride (dampRid) and wait til theyre cracker dry and freeze them. you'll get 6 months at least then.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: LSDollar]
#21958964 - 07/18/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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As the above poster stated. Dry them for long term storage. They will get hard, but you can grind them up and put them in a tea/beverage easily. I would not put any mushroom or sclerotia in the refrigerator except in a paper bag.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: SteveRogers]
#21959242 - 07/18/15 04:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll third drying them. I'm also pretty sure you can rehydrate truffles pretty easily after you dry them for long term storage.
Another way you could preserve the goodies is to make a GIANT batch of tea, and just freeze whatever you're not using. There's a few members on here that make tea and just freeze it for later. I don't really know how to make truffle tea, though I bet you could find a good tek on it somewhere.
Also, by "shroom-like" drugs I think you mean psychedelics I would agree with quite a few of the drugs you said you'd give up. I still want to try mescaline again, and at a good dosage.
Also, breathing constriction doesn't sound like ego death, it sounds like straight up death
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: Achillita]
#21959402 - 07/18/15 06:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You could put them in the freezer, that should store them indefinately They might turn to sludge because of lysis, but keep clean and potent
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: thoraxx]
#21959787 - 07/18/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah but four months is not long term storage for fresh stones 
paper bag -> fridge
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: LSDollar]
#21960842 - 07/18/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The vacuum-sealed stuff is sold in Dutch smart shops with use-by dates of maybe 3 months, by the end of that time they might look a bit sweaty in the pack but are still edible - but that kind of shelf life assumes they've been maintained at refrigerated temperatures.
I don't know how long your packs will keep in the fridge, but I'd guess they might be a bit unappetizing (slightly blackened and a bit slimy, if not actually mouldy) after 4 months, so I think it might be worth drying or freezing at least some of them as per previous suggestions.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: Aldebaran]
#21970493 - 07/20/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alright guys, I guess the votes in..I'll leave them on fridge until they mold!
Just kidding, after 3 days in dark part of fridge I noticed three more bags with mold, down to 15. I'll trip tonight..first chance I have had without work interfering.
I put 5 back into fridge, I am going to heat dry the rest I'm thinking putting them in the oven, or leaving them in my car this afternoon to quick dry them out, I did this with fresh bud that was still a little wet and sticky, after 4 hours in the car it was dry and crumbled under pressure.
I'll let you guys know what I do, does anyone know the weight from wet to dry for truffle? If I put them in my car I'll leave them in bottom part of the bag so I don't take way too much
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: LSDollar]
#21970507 - 07/20/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do not use either of those methods to dry them. Get a dehydrator or fan dry them and then finish with desiccant. The search function on this site discusses techniques at lengths in older threads. Not sure why you insist on storing them in the fridge in plastic while bag after bag continues to mold.....
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: SteveRogers]
#21971341 - 07/20/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dryin in the oven is fine, just be sure to have is set to the lowest temperature possible and to have the oven door cracked for airflow.
It'll work, not as good as a dehydrator, but bettr than fanning them for 4 or 5 days.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: Achillita]
#21971349 - 07/20/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No airflow in an oven....
I guess if you have your heart set on it you could open the door and throw a box fan in front of it.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: LSDollar]
#21971376 - 07/20/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll let you guys know what I do, does anyone know the weight from wet to dry for truffle?
In the Shroomery Sclerotia FAQ it says that sclerotia are roughly 70% water, so if 10g of fresh sclerotia are completely dried, then in theory you should be left with around 3g of dried material.
To convert from fresh to dry weight just divide by 3.33 or vice versa.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: SteveRogers]
#21971546 - 07/20/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SteveRogers said: No airflow in an oven....
wot? Most somewhat modern electric ovens should have plenty, mine has 2 different fans built in
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: thoraxx]
#21971554 - 07/20/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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sure for convection cooking. It's not the same as a dehydrator.
I am just telling the guy to buy a cheap dehydrator if he want the best results. I'm not looking to rustle anyone jimmies.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: SteveRogers]
#21971701 - 07/20/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dehydrators work better and faster IME, but I've used an oven when I didn't have one. And it worked fine. The mushrooms did look kinda burnt, but they were still potent. And that got them cracker dry.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: Achillita]
#21972068 - 07/20/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I left 10 of the 15g bags in my hot car for 6 hours, car smelt of shrooms, they are still a little wet, but you can tell they dried up a bit, will weigh later tonight, may put oven on low, and leave oven door open for ventilation tonight. I'm hoping I was able to salvage as much as possible after having 5 of the bags get moldy
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: Achillita]
#21972080 - 07/20/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try this Just store left over truffles in everclear, they won't rot and they give an extra bang from the everclear Just remember the everclear becomes hallucinogenic too so just barely put enough in a container to cover with Everclear about eighth of an inch and store it in the fridge I make shroom tea the same way but I use dry powderd shrooms and strain them before drinking the everclear
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: LSDollar]
#21972111 - 07/20/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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mirraco said: Well I left 10 of the 15g bags in my hot car for 6 hours, car smelt of shrooms, they are still a little wet
May have been one of the worst things to do. Stale air with the sun beating down for six hours out in the open?
Listen to Achillita, me or anyone else that has recommended good choices. You have abused these things a lot and really want to dry them as fast as physically possible. Don't waste the rest that haven't molded mang.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: SteveRogers]
#21972129 - 07/20/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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??? What does a 15 ounce bag of truffles cost in dollars ??
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: 99.99]
#21972161 - 07/20/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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For me to grow. Like 30$ in Rye Berries maybe. For you to purchase in whatever country you could legally buy them in. A lot more than that. A lot more. 15 oz? is 425 grams mang.
He doesn't have that much though. I believe he only put 150 grams in the car. Had 300grams initially and lost some to mold already.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: SteveRogers]
#21972202 - 07/20/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SteveRogers said: For me to grow. Like 30$ in Rye Berries maybe. For you to purchase in whatever country you could legally buy them in. A lot more than that. A lot more. 15 oz? is 425 grams mang.
He doesn't have that much though. I believe he only put 150 grams in the car. Had 300grams initially and lost some to mold already.
I just want to know what they sell four in the countries their legal in....I DONT WANT ANY ORE TO GROW THEM... i just wonderd what they typically cost
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: 99.99]
#21972210 - 07/20/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do a google search. You are hijacking the guys thread.
This sponsor sells them. You can do the math. http://azarius.net/smartshop/magic-mushrooms/
Don't get snippy with me. I am trying to help out.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: SteveRogers]
#21972308 - 07/20/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SteveRogers said: Do a google search. You are hijacking the guys thread.
This sponsor sells them. You can do the math. http://azarius.net/smartshop/magic-mushrooms/
Don't get snippy with me. I am trying to help out.
So this will tell me what he paid ... Bullshit
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: 99.99]
#21972372 - 07/20/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who gives a shit what he paid? Why don't you send the OP a private message and just ask him. And then grow up a little.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: SteveRogers]
#21972484 - 07/20/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's not hard to find the prices of truffles, just remember shipping, bank fees. You can easily figure it out by yourself, and they are going up in price daily as some of the bags get air in and get moldy
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: LSDollar]
#21972904 - 07/20/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can you possibly clone them and learn to grow your own? Check up on it. That would be a sensible way to not waste them. I'm sure there are agar tecniques that will allow you to cultivate those truffle forming strains. You can find the info no where better than right here at The Shroomery.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: jesuisravi]
#21973425 - 07/20/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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For sure, i got 12 of the packages drying, i ate one this afternoon, got a level two trip out of it.
Im looking for a level 4, so lets say 30g on friday is that too soon? I wanted to experiment see how it was, if it really meant 15g fresh= 1.5-2g dry cubes.I would say what I felt was similar to 2g of cubes.
These fresh sclerotia go dark after they hit oxygen from vacuum sealed packages right? They got dark quick after opening them
I have some syrian rue seeds i ordered months ago, if I find them, would they be any help, lets say put them in gelcaps and take 1-2g?
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: LSDollar]
#21983319 - 07/23/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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In my experience, drying truffles is way more about airflow and less about heat. Sure, a little bit of heat can help speed things up. But ultimately, it's airflow you really want.
Drying them is as simple laying them out on some kitchen roll or news papers and letting a fan blow over them. If you have big truffles, cut them in half. Smaller pieces dry way faster. After two or three days they should be notably drier and a lot less likely to deteriorate and rot. The truffles life expectancy just went from days or weeks to months.
Then it's off to the final step to crackerize them. Toss them in a desiccant chamber. That's a difficult word for an airtight jar with some silica gel or damp rid, where the last bit of moisture will be pulled out. Make sure the truffles don't touch the desiccant. They aren't all poisenous, but eh, better safe than sorry, right? If you're really paranoid about it, you could use salt or rice as a desiccant, but it's really not as effective and I don't recommend it. With this last step, you prolonged your precious stones' life even further, from months to possibly years.
Eating them could be a bit more challenging now, as they are rock hard. But as I see it, eating truffles is a challenge anyway. Always makes me gag. You could make tea out of them, but I just stick them in my mouth for a bit, let them rehydrate with saliva (yum) and as soon as it gets softer, start chewing. Start chewing real good. Start chewin', boy. All aboard the chew train. Chew chew! It will eventually turn into mush. As for dosage: I always calculate a dry dose as a third of what you'd take fresh.
Hope I was of some help and saved you some of your stones. Really, it doesn't have to be more complicated than this.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: Satyr604]
#21983395 - 07/23/15 07:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why not just put mushrooms on a screen of some kind, then get one of those mini heaters(small box with a fan that also heats) and put it about 6 inches away from the mushrooms on the screen? That's essentially all a dehydrator is.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: LSDollar]
#21983866 - 07/23/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wanted to experiment see how it was, if it really meant 15g fresh= 1.5-2g dry cubes.I would say what I felt was similar to 2g of cubes.
Interesting to hear about the potency.... sounds similar to what you might expect from average "Atlantis" in a Dutch Smartshop.
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Im looking for a level 4, so lets say 30g on friday is that too soon?
What's that, a 3 or 4 day gap? A week is better, but I think your tolerance would be fairly low considering the trip was a mild one......if Friday is the most convenient day to trip, I'd say go for it....especially if you still have some bags in the fridge.
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These fresh sclerotia go dark after they hit oxygen from vacuum sealed packages right?
I think that's normal.
The rue thing....no personal experience....it would boost the trip but I would be cautious and read up on it carefully before you try it. See for example http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21937309 for a few comments on this combo.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: Aldebaran]
#21984077 - 07/23/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ok...so with PE especially...ill weigh out 30g fresh. After the 30g is totally cracker dry, instead of it weighing 3 grams, it weighs about 2.4 grams.
This is consistently happening. The only strain that was actually 90% water, no more, was B+.
So I have a theory that when people are eating wet mushrooms and say theyre strain was a little weak, its not the mushrooms fault.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21989119 - 07/24/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just to add my 2cents here...
I read in a RR thread ages ago that truffles dry just fine in a paper bag in the fridge. That has been my experience as well.
If I leave them in the growth jar they last AGES. Currently have 14 month old grow doing just fine.
If I havest and put them in a tupperware or similar sealed container they stay pretty fresh for a long time.
If I harvest and put them in a brown paper bag and staple it closed and put it in the fridge, they dry rock hard within a couple of weeks. I go shake them up a bit every few days to keep turning the "pile" of stones.
I traditionally use a dehydrator for shrooms, but I bag-fridge dry truffles and it works great.
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: gornyhuy]
#21989666 - 07/24/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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they dry rock hard within a couple of weeks
What do you do with them when you want to eat them? Grind them up?
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Currently have 14 month old grow doing just fine.
Yikes....I'm guessing those will be fairly potent....like a jar full of madness
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Re: What to do with excess truffles [Re: Aldebaran]
#21989729 - 07/24/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Aldebaran said: What do you do with them when you want to eat them? Grind them up?
Yes. I store the dried stones whole in small mason jars, using a vacuum sealer to suck out the air down to about 25psi. I also throw a desiccant pack or two in there, and store the jar in a cool dark place. Theoretically they should last for a very very long time with no real decrease in potency, especially since so much of the mass of the whole stones are totally isolated from oxygen, humidity, and light.
Then for dosing, I weigh them whole and throw them in a coffee grinder and grind to dust. You can make tea that way or just add the powder to OJ or yogurt or chocolates.
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Currently have 14 month old grow doing just fine.
Yikes....I'm guessing those will be fairly potent....like a jar full of madness 
Jury is still out. I haven't tested them since 9 months and they were plenty potent then. Opening the jar at 14 vs 9 was no different. Very healthy and strong sclerotia smell.
Soooooon.
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