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LiberT
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Can I eat this? (NE England)
#21956418 - 07/17/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi,
Found this today, which I believe to be Laetiporus sulphureus, but would like confirmation before I ingest it, as this will be a novel experince for me, having never eaten a fungus I have foraged before!
I left some on the tree so that it would continue growing, as I assume it will, or once you start hacking at it, is it no longer viable?
Habitat: On the trunk of an Oak on the edge of a pasture in North East England.
Gills: Pale yellow pores, browning towards the base.
Stem: N/A
Cap: Spongy, dry and a little gritty to touch. Orange, darkening to a chicken tikka colour at the edges,
Spore print color: Have not attempted a spore print, thought it may not be necessary this time. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Bruising: Not observed any bruising.
Odour: Mushroom smell and a little musty
  
[Edited to add image of pores]
Edited by LiberT (07/17/15 02:30 PM)
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: LiberT]
#21956697 - 07/17/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is a Laetiporus but is too aged for my liking, it should be firm and fresh looking.
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Try finding some specimens that are more fresh. They're pretty good.
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: amilibertine]
#21956992 - 07/17/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you both for your replies.
I trimmed off all of the drier flesh and popped the rest in a chicken noodle soup I was making. The flavour was a little bitter and not something I would choose to eat again, so before I write it off as not for me, I will take your advice and try and find a younger specimen to sample.
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: LiberT]
#21959033 - 07/18/15 01:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That is way too old to eat. I wouldn't even think about eating that if it was myself. You definitely should try it fresh though because it's the best tasting fungus imo. It should never be in any way bitter and assuming you like the taste of mushrooms, you'd definitely want to eat it again!
Edited by Untitled (07/18/15 07:50 AM)
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: Untitled]
#21959360 - 07/18/15 05:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Untitled said: That is way too old to eat. I wouldn't even think about eating that if it was myself.
It was the first one I had ever found... or at least recognised for what it was, so I had to eat it for the novelty if nothing else!
Next time I shall be more selective :-)
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: LiberT]
#21959545 - 07/18/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's good to know they are out anyway. Maybe i should check the areas i know they grow in to see if there are any around. When i found them last time it wasn't until early September.
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: Untitled]
#21959935 - 07/18/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can you estimate how old this is? I have read that it is possible for these to over-winter and continue to fruit the following year, and I found this on a right of way around some moorland pastures that hadn't been trodden for some time, by the lack of a visible path.
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: LiberT]
#21960391 - 07/18/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I actually don't know that much about them. I was under the impression that like most fungi, they grow pretty fast, but i might be wrong. All i know is that they are supposed to grow back each year.
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: Untitled]
#21969723 - 07/20/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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IME they grow extremely fast. like from less than a pound to sometimes ten pounds or more in just two days.
i've read the overwintering bit, too, and think that is mainly for ID'ing where they might crop up when conditions are right...in that, if you see an old, hard, bleached out Laetiporous that has overwintered, it won't grow again from that fruit but might in other spots on the tree...so you should check that spot when conditions are right for them regrowing from the same tree/area.
ETA: i've harvested it twice a year for three years running from the same oak but it is clearly dead dead now and probably won't produce any this October. then again, i'll definitely go back on Oct 7-10 this fall to check it, just in case (young specimens are that good).
Edited by relic (07/20/15 08:32 AM)
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: relic]
#21969812 - 07/20/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Untitled said: ..don't know that much about them.
A little more than me, I think 
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relic said: i've read the overwintering bit, too, and think that is mainly for ID'ing where they might crop up when conditions are right...in that, if you see an old, hard, bleached out Laetiporous that has overwintered, it won't grow again from that fruit but might in other spots on the tree...so you should check that spot when conditions are right for them regrowing from the same tree/area.
Thanks for that, sound advice. With that in mind, would you know if it is it best practice to remove the older fungus to make room for a new fruit to bloom?
Edited by LiberT (07/20/15 09:01 AM)
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: LiberT]
#21974563 - 07/21/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have not read anything about that but assume it's not necessary. the tree i've harvested from several years running sometimes (read: occasionally) fruits from the same spot--i've noticed the previous scarring of the bark--but most often it is from adjacent areas.
logically, the Laetiporous would fruit from the same general vicinity but not necessarily in the same exact spot. the heartwood is probably exhausted in the places where it has previously fruited and as such the mushroom sends out the fruiting bodies in nearby areas where near 100% colonization has occurred as the 'infection' spreads.
now that i think about it more, that tree i mentioned previously will probably fruit for many more years farther up the tree while the infection eats the heartwood farther and farther from the initial colonization. however; i might not be able to reach it much longer unless the tree falls.
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: relic]
#21979229 - 07/22/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks relic,
I had not considered that the fungus would exhaust its source of energy from a localised area of the host tree.
Considered these for reachine those higher fruiting treasures 
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: LiberT]
#21979699 - 07/22/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i was thinking of an axe.
welcome. it's one of the few things i can speak of on this website with any semblance of knowledge or experience.
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: relic]
#21980071 - 07/22/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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relic said:
i was thinking of an axe.
welcome. it's one of the few things i can speak of on this website with any semblance of knowledge or experience.
Cutting the tree down seems a bit extreme!
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: Untitled]
#21980138 - 07/22/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Untitled said:
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relic said:
i was thinking of an axe.
welcome. it's one of the few things i can speak of on this website with any semblance of knowledge or experience.
Cutting the tree down seems a bit extreme!
live in houses much? 
he'll be an above-average avid mushroom feller, thats all.
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#21984045 - 07/23/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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no worries, that small oak is dead; she didn't leaf out this year at all, even on the highest branches...all i'd be doing by cutting it down is to put more of the wood down in the more humid region of the forest floor instead of the drier canopy area, benefiting the Laetiporous (and me by extension).
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Re: Can I eat this? (NE England) [Re: relic]
#21988692 - 07/24/15 07:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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relic said: ...it's one of the few things i can speak of on this website with any semblance of knowledge or experience.
You are still one up on me
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