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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
    #21957285 - 07/17/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

For example, I have some shit right now that was laid with clear needlepoint with glacier water and there is absolutely no jaw clenching or back ache. The come up is unbelievably smooth and its a very clear minded headspace.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
    #21957294 - 07/17/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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For example, I have some shit right now that was laid with clear needlepoint with glacier water and there is absolutely no jaw clenching or back ache. The come up is unbelievably smooth and its a very clear minded headspace.




You honeslty know how and what your acid was laid with? Guess you are on another level than I am. I have never had a back ache or ground my teeth with actual LSD......


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21957308 - 07/17/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There isn't many people between me and the chemist and my friends are LSD enthusiast's, you probably scored good L then. The jaw clenching I have never gotten really bad but I've had some bad lower back pain before on the comedown.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
    #21957316 - 07/17/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You're wrong, plain & simple. That difference is all in your head. I've eaten a lot of LSD myself. More to the point, I spent some time high up enough in the distribution chain to know what crystals the doses were laid with. There were always different reports of side effects with the same batch. Furthermore, I've personally witnessed the same batch of crystal get given different names as it made it's way down the line. People would swear that the doses "laid with fluff" were cleaner. The silver had more tension, aches, jaw clenching, etc. except the doses in question were all the same exact batch of silver, and were laid at the same time, on the same paper. People would just hear the name silver & attribute any side effects to that. Vice versa folks would hear fluff & swear it felt smoother. It's all in your head.

Furthermore, the same distribution of the same side effects seen today were noted during the studies done with Sandoz LSD back in the 50s & early 60s. These side effects varied among the same people, on the same dose as well. Different day, different mind set, differences in their physiology on that day; boom. Differences in body load. The book "LSD Spitituality & the Creative Process" breaks this done very concisely, and is based on a study involving hundreds of people given the same dose of Sandoz LSD per kg of bodyweight over the course of years.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21957327 - 07/17/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You're wrong, plain & simple. That difference is all in your head. I've eaten a lot of LSD myself. More to the point, I spent some time high up enough in the distribution chain to know what crystals the doses were laid with. There were always different reports of side effects with the same batch. Furthermore, I've personally witnessed the same batch of crystal get given different names as it made it's way down the line. People would swear that the doses "laid with fluff" were cleaner. The silver had more tension, aches, jaw clenching, etc. except the doses in question were all the same exact batch of silver, and were laid at the same time, on the same paper. People would just hear the name silver & attribute any side effects to that. Vice versa folks would hear fluff & swear it felt smoother. It's all in your head.

Furthermore, the same distribution of the same side effects seen today were noted during the studies done with Sandoz LSD back in the 50s & early 60s. These side effects varied among the same people, on the same dose as well. Different day, different mind set, differences in their physiology on that day; boom. Differences in body load. The book "LSD Spitituality & the Creative Process" breaks this done very concisely, and is based on a study involving hundreds of people given the same dose of Sandoz LSD per kg of bodyweight over the course of years.




THANK YOU. Fuck.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21957343 - 07/17/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've been eating this L all summer and the effects haven't changed last summer I was eating stuff that gave me more of a body load every time and really bad bloating when I would eat 5+.  :shrug: Just speaking from my personal experience and knowledge.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21957344 - 07/17/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have to admit that I used to be one of those people that swore I could feel the difference. Then I learned better.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip] * 1
    #21957362 - 07/17/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

LSD made in some shit lab with shitty chemists in some far off country is not guna be as good as some LSD made in a high grade lab with legitimate chemists not only in how strong it is but in its physical effects.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
    #21957383 - 07/17/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Bloating is a common side effect that has nothing to do the way it's made. Sandoz...aka pharmaceutical grade LSD made in a highly respected laboratory was known to cause this, among other side effects. And again, the same people wouldn't always experience them...or experience them to same degree. It's variable. There are so many different factors. One's biochemistry fluctuates. One's state of mind/phase of life fluctuates. This all effects the subjective experience of an LSD trip. Get that book that I mentioned above. "LSD; Spirituality & the Creative Process" It gives a solid view into all of this....and it's based in scientific research, not lot stories.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21957398 - 07/17/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Test kits are so cheap and available though, and LSd is so cheap for what you are getting I cant see why you wouldnt use one unless its spur of the moment.. and youre always taking a chance in that scenario.

Seriously just spend the extra 5-10 bux on an extra tab. Its not a waste if it means you can trip easy


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21957412 - 07/17/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Don't even need a whole tab to test; a sliver works.Though there are a few different lysergic analogues out these days that would pop purple on an erhlichs. The ehrlichs tests for an indole ring, not LSD itself.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21957498 - 07/17/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So LSZ/AL LAD would test positive? Well at least itll weed out the dangerous ones


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21957537 - 07/17/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting. The L I got this summer is still the bomb diggity compared to anything I've eaten and I have had multiple people say the same.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip] * 1
    #21957687 - 07/17/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I agree that the effects of L lie mainly in dosage and mental state/set and setting; but the truth is, the majority of L I have seen recently
has been low mic or straight RC:shrug:
I've had L on blotter, vials, etc. that got me loaded in 1 hit, the way it's supposed to be. When you have to take 3+ hits to even feel anything, and still pay the same price, it's not worth it in my opinion.
I also hate when people LIE to me and tell me it's L when really it's some DO whatever, 25I, L-DOPA, etc. Fuck L EAT MUSHROOMS AND SMOKE DMT.
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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21957807 - 07/17/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nah, L > mushrooms any day. Just gotta be smart, do some digging, use the resources we have at our disposal & you can find the quality. Plenty of high quality L abounds these days.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21957820 - 07/17/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I also hate when people LIE to me and tell me it's L when really it's some DO whatever, 25I, L-DOPA, etc.



what's L-DOPA?


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21957826 - 07/17/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Nah, L > mushrooms any day. Just gotta be smart, do some digging, use the resources we have at our disposal & you can find the quality. Plenty of high quality L abounds these days.



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I also hate when people LIE to me and tell me it's L when really it's some DO whatever, 25I, L-DOPA, etc.



what's L-DOPA?




It is a Parkinson's drug. Don't know which asshole he pulled that out of.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-DOPA


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21957938 - 07/17/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

haha sorry meant Al-lad. That's how unfamiliar I am with most RC.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21957947 - 07/17/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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That's how unfamiliar I am with most RC.




Then stop commenting on this issue.


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Re: what do you think I took? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21958127 - 07/17/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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This is why i dont really have a strong interest in lsd. too many people now these days sell RCs as LSD so its pointless to go lookin for L if its going to be something i dont even want.



Nans. It's the best lsd year I've seen in 7 years of being a DIE HARD lsd enthusiast.  Look for white on white, check the recent lsd prints thread, or try and find some of the gel tabs going around.


And everyone should just listen to dark_star.  He knows what he's talking about.  Some people here have actually worked with crystal.  "bad acid" is most likely just something that's not lsd.  12 years since my first acid trip and literally hundreds since, and I've never once had lsd that was real that caused any unexpected effects.

If you are taking monstrous doses perhaps the impurity thing would be different, but there are only a few types of crystals going around.  Your L either is or it isn't.  End of story. 

Source? Been around the block and heard enough stupid lot lackey lies.  Even the heaviest hitter I know, who moves grams on regular basis and has been in the crystal game since the early 90s,  says some straight up false shit. 

Skepticism is good.  Trips are subjective.  LSD-25 is LSD-25.

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