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Need help identifying
    #21955328 - 07/17/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

SWIM was out hunting all day yesterday and came across these, SWIM has gone through his handbook seems similar to Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata. Found in Central PA, along the same strecth, between 10-20' along a washout. They were growing off leaves/possibly decayed wood material underneath. Some of them appear to be different in appearance, so SWIM's taking a few spore prints just to be sure. Swim first notcied them because of the beautiful blue/green bruising, some had this blue before SWIM picked them. Others did not bruise much. SWIM is including a few pictures for identification, and will post back later when the spore prints are done.


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: Fidy_us]
    #21955353 - 07/17/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You need a picture of the attachment of the gills to the stem, and also preferably a cross-section of the mushroom body. Try to get in as close to the gills as you can so that we can see any possible lactation. These don't look like a psilocin-bearing species to me, but I may be wrong. They look more like one of the handful of Lactarius sp. which will stain blue to blue-green. Wait for a trusted identifier, but I'm guessing some type of Lactarius. If so it is not active.


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: Fidy_us]
    #21955411 - 07/17/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The prints are an off white/light brown. Included more pictures, these are the ones from the prints as the others are no longer fresh. Not what thought they were but would still like to identify for future reference.


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #21959316 - 07/18/15 05:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Looked up many of the Lactarius species and the one it resembles is the Lactarius Piperatus. But 3 things differ, the size of the Lactarius is big in comparison to the one in OP, these are smaller in diameter than a soda can. Also there is no milk/lactation/juice from the gills off new specimens collected. The last thing is the amount of blue bruising, where the blue Lactarius appears to be deep royal blue ink in color, gills and all. These caps are an off white/pale yellow-grey and have blue/green bruising and the gills are pale yellow and show no sign of bruising.


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: Fidy_us]
    #21959462 - 07/18/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe Clitocybe odora


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: nomendubium]
    #21959791 - 07/18/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you. Clitocybe odora seems to match description exactly, all the way down to the spore print(cream). The only difference is smell, these don't have an aniseed scent, more of a farinaceous odor, but every nose is different. A little more about the area, most of the living vegetation in the immediate area are mountain laurels. The washout is shady, but not void of light. This area does not receive direct sunlight and stays fairly cool.


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: Fidy_us]
    #21965759 - 07/19/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Is it possible for them to lose their scent, or change scent? Even fresh ones do not have the odor of Clitocybe odora description. 2 others have smelled these and agree they don't have that aniseed/liquorice smell.


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: Fidy_us]
    #21969917 - 07/20/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

don't eat em till a trusted identifier confirms it, if they don't 100% match the description then they might be something else. Nothing worse than putting mystery shrooms in your mouth and hoping you don't die.


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: nomendubium]
    #21970696 - 07/20/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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nomendubium said:
Maybe Clitocybe odora



:whathesaid: I've been seeing hundreds of these in Central Pa....says they're edible but there are so many chanterelles right now....why bother?:shrug:


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: nomendubium]
    #21971483 - 07/20/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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nomendubium said:
Maybe Clitocybe odora




Congrats on getting your badge, and with such a low post count. I knew you'd get it sooner or later, you're a solid ID'er. :cheers:


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: MidnightCity]
    #21979405 - 07/22/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Midnight city :laugh: I just noticed myself when you said something.


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: MidnightCity]
    #21979973 - 07/22/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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MidnightCity said:


Congrats on getting your badge, and with such a low post count. I knew you'd get it sooner or later, you're a solid ID'er. :cheers:




:whathesaid: :thumbup:


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Re: Need help identifying [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #21980892 - 07/22/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Congrats :congrats:


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