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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: KauaiOrca]
#21956091 - 07/17/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You do great disservice to human ingenuity. Knowledge has been lost. Who knows what methods they had. It doesn't take a hundred strong men - it takes one smart man/woman with imagination & some time on their hands. The theory that aliens traveled hundreds of thousands of light years to move rocks around on a planet of primitive peoples is easily as ludicrous an explanation as any other. We don't know how they did it, but that doesn't mean that they didn't. Aliens isn't a sufficient answer, and until you have actual solid evidence (no conjecture) that they were here & did this, I won't buy it.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Dark_Star]
#21956098 - 07/17/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: You do great disservice to human ingenuity. Knowledge has been lost. Who knows what methods they had. It doesn't take a hundred strong men - it takes one smart man/woman with imagination & some time on their hands. The theory that aliens traveled hundreds of thousands of light years to move rocks around on a planet of primitive peoples is easily as ludicrous an explanation as any other. We don't know how they did it, but that doesn't mean that they didn't. Aliens isn't a sufficient answer, and until you have actual solid evidence (no conjecture) that they were here & did this, I won't buy it.
Why did these beings have to travel 'hundreds of thousands of light years'?
Couldnt they have came from our own solar system? Mars? The moon? Could they have existed on/ inside this planet when our Human species was young, and they helped us?
EDIT: they have solid evidence...in carvings on these buildings/pyramids that clearly shows space ships and aliens. lol.
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Dark_Star
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There are no planets in this solar system capable of sustaining advanced life forms. If they were from this planet before us, they weren't aliens. If they came from Mars before it lost it's atmosphere & magnetic field, then we are them. Thus we built them. 
Also, LOL at your "solid evidence". Pictures on a wall aren't solid evidence. let me draw a picture & bring it to court if I ever get in trouble. "See your honor, it was these guys."
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Dark_Star]
#21956119 - 07/17/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: There are no planets in this solar system capable of sustaining advanced life forms. If they were from this planet before us, they weren't aliens. If they came from Mars before it lost it's atmosphere & magnetic field, then we are them. Thus we built them. 
You actually believe NASA?
How do you actually KNOW that the other planets in our solar system cannot sustain life? Because the government tells and trains you so?
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: MajickMuffin] 1
#21956128 - 07/17/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's more than just NASA. Every astrophysicist says the same thing. But I guess a bunch of people posting on a drug message board know more than astrophysicists, right?
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Dark_Star]
#21956140 - 07/17/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Believe what you wish. Maybe when the truth is revealed you will be a panicking monkey like the rest of them.
ALL information of that topic, HAS TO go through the government 'like a filter'. They pick and choose what info to release and what not.
'Every astrophysicist' that you speak of, has a gun behind their head, they cannot speak the truth. Its that sad and simple.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Dark_Star]
#21956160 - 07/17/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: There are no planets in this solar system capable of sustaining advanced life forms. If they were from this planet before us, they weren't aliens. If they came from Mars before it lost it's atmosphere & magnetic field, then we are them. Thus we built them. 
Also, LOL at your "solid evidence". Pictures on a wall aren't solid evidence. let me draw a picture & bring it to court if I ever get in trouble. "See your honor, it was these guys." 
How do you know what was going on on the planets of our solar system a billion years ago? Seriously. What was the planet that many believe exploded between Mars and Jupiter? What was going on there? Do you really think you know what was happening on Mars 100 million years ago? We haven't even explored the dark side of the moon or the depths of our oceans. We find new creatures at deeper depths than we ever thought possible.
We are barely out of the crib. For all we know, there are civilizations living underground NOW on other planets … we have no idea. We don't even understand our own planet at this point.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Dark_Star]
#21956176 - 07/17/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: It's more than just NASA. Every astrophysicist says the same thing. But I guess a bunch of people posting on a drug message board know more than astrophysicists, right?
"EVERY" Astrophysicist says the same thing? Give me a break. It's this kind of exaggeration that indicates you don't know the topic. More and more are saying it's possible that life did indeed travel to earth on a comet or asteroid and that may be more likely than the lightening in a dirty pond theory. Physicists are taking the multi-verse theory very seriously with many dimensions that exist simultaneously and these theories change the equation of space travel completely.
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classic conspiracy theorist paranoia. I won't be panicking, and your elitism is amusing. "Monkeys" The fact is that scientists give explanations regarding what they say, and it makes sense. All people like you give are a bunch of conspiracies with no hard evidence to back it up. Please, tell me how what the scientists say is wrong. Disprove the Goldilocks zone. Convince me that there are aliens in our backyard. 
Additionally, KauaiOrca is stating the myths are the truth, which is what I rebutted. The myths state that these beings came from Sirius. That's not in our solar system.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: KauaiOrca]
#21956191 - 07/17/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Microscopic organisms traveling on comets isn't the same thing as aliens flying in on spaceships & building pyramids, which is what you talking about. Unless you mean to purport that microbes built puma Punku.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Dark_Star]
#21956204 - 07/17/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Also, LOL at your "solid evidence". Pictures on a wall aren't solid evidence. let me draw a picture & bring it to court if I ever get in trouble. "See your honor, it was these guys." 
Hey I'm the one who posted pictures and didnt even comment on my opinion about them. They didnt post any pics trying to prove anything
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They specifically said that cave & pyramid drawings were hard evidence. You must've missed that.
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Dark_Star calling me a conspiracy theoririst. 

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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Dark_Star]
#21956233 - 07/17/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Additionally, KauaiOrca is stating the myths are the truth, which is what I rebutted. The myths state that these beings came from Sirius. That's not in our solar system.
No … what I said is it takes a lot of hubris to claim that every single creation myth on this planet by all the civilizations is wrong. Every single one of them. Takes even more hubris to claim that all of the thousands and thousands of eyewitness accounts of UFO's and aliens are … again wrong. And even more to claim all the military pilots and astronauts that have come forward that there are indeed alien craft on our planet are wrong or lying.
Everyone is wrong, everyone is lying and all the evidence that you don't even know about is bunk, LMAO. That's the summary of the case against alien life existing in our solar system.
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nope, sorry to disappoint you, but it wouldn't phase me like that. I'd be excited & intrigued. I wouldn't be afraid unless they were trying to kill me....which would scare me if it was a human or anything else. I've had plenty of contact with interdimensional beings over the years. Whether or not they were real, or a figment of my subconscious remains unknown. There was a time when I believed they were real though. Now I'm not convinced either way.
Of course I called a conspiracy theorist. You're referencing a conspiracy, with no proof that you're correct (except of course for your circumstantial evidence from Ancient Aliens. I watch that show as well by the way....it's entertaining, interesting to think about....but all conjecture.) this, by definition makes you a conspiracy theorist.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: KauaiOrca]
#21956283 - 07/17/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No. I think aliens are in the same boat we are. Some are far more advanced and some are probably not. If you mean do I think aliens created humans? Maybe. Maybe they sent life here to begin with or altered our monkeys DNA to create us. I don't think they created the universe though.
The more I ponder these questions the more I think that none of this is even real. That were in some simulation of sorts. This would make whatever started the simulation god.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Dark_Star]
#21956298 - 07/17/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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People take the Bible too literally as well as too seriously. It was actually intended to be a collection of ancient smut, anecdotes, and jokes, and the fact that people use it to justify exerting authority over others is horseshit. God told me and I can back this up through scripture
“But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?” Kings 18:27
“But he himself turned back at the idols near Gilgal and said, ‘I have a secret message for you, O king.’ And he commanded, ‘Silence.’ And all his attendants went out from his presence. And Ehud came to him as he was sitting alone in his cool roof chamber. And Ehud said, ‘I have a message from God for you.’ And he arose from his seat. And Ehud reached with his left hand, took the sword from his right thigh, and thrust it into his belly. And the hilt also went in after the blade, and the fat closed over the blade, for he did not pull the sword out of his belly; and the dung came out. Then Ehud went out into the porch and closed the doors of the roof chamber behind him and locked them. When he had gone, the servants came, and when they saw that the doors of the roof chamber were locked, they thought, ‘Surely he is relieving himself in the closet of the cool chamber.’“ Judges 3:19-24
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Dark_Star]
#21956303 - 07/17/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Of course I called a conspiracy theorist. You're referencing a conspiracy, with no proof that you're correct (except of course for your circumstantial evidence from Ancient Aliens. I watch that show as well by the way....it's entertaining, interesting to think about....but all conjecture.) this, by definition makes you a conspiracy theorist.
Any thoughts on why John Podesta is pushing for the US to get on board with the disclosure movement?
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Magicman69]
#21956311 - 07/17/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I did not get any information from 'Ancient Aliens', 'Ancient aliens' is contemplating the same information I am, maybe.
10,000 years ago if a Human carved an alien and spaceships on a stone wall, and there is proof that those are carvings from 10,000 years ago, what would you think?Quote:
Magicman69 said: No. I think aliens are in the same boat we are. Some are far more advanced and some are probably not. If you mean do I think aliens created humans? Maybe. Maybe they sent life here to begin with or altered our monkeys DNA to create us. I don't think they created the universe though.
The more I ponder these questions the more I think that none of this is even real. That were in some simulation of sorts. This would make whatever started the simulation god.
As far as I have pondered, I would imagine and have heard that a group of great Entities had created this 'simulation' of a Universe.
Not one singular, which would make more sense anyway.
If a video game was going to be created, would ONLY 1 person do all of the work? Would everything originate from only 1 persons imagination? No. It is many people doing different tasks, skilled in different areas, adding their own little things here and there.
1 person cannot build a Skyscraper. 1 person cannot build a bridge, or create a space ship.
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What is to say that people 10,000 years ago did not dream up aliens? They were human after all.
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