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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Asante]
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I like to call god (all that is).
Now for the earthly physical gods like Viracocha, Quetzalcoatl, and the early dynastic period Egyptian gods could be alien or from some more advance civilization on earth.
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Asante said: If you consider God an alien you are placing him outside yourself. How can something that is everything stand apart from you? You are the realest thing you know.
But how do we know he is everything, or even there, I'm not saying he is or isn't I'm just curious to here your view on it.
"The All Encompassing One" is a definition that fits everything there is, taken as one. So if anything exists in any way it will be bundled under that definition.
God and Multiverse are synonymous.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Amanita86]
#21954890 - 07/17/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Because this is all really happening..
"I am, that I am".. - God
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twelvelookslikeu said: I like to call god (all that is).
All that Is, was, will and can be.
I Am That I Am.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Asante]
#21954936 - 07/17/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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THere is only One and the ILLUSION of Many, and YOU ARE THAT ONE.
To not even consider, however, that many of our beliefs about God and the many mythologies that have built our religious belief systems may have had some kind of advanced species connection that has been interpreted or attributed as God, I think is a mistake. Virtually every single creation mythology on our planet has an element of advanced being(s) from space that have intervened to assist mankind.
I don't believe that's the ethereal God that you and I are talking about, but I think it's quite possible that our beliefs have been heavily influenced by some kind of alien advanced species.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: KauaiOrca]
#21954947 - 07/17/15 06:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That falls in line with superstitious people in a superstitious time, where they attributed volcanos to God's wrath or disaster as punishment or shooting stars as a message.
They equated things they didnt understand to god, especially when it came from something they couldnt get to or understand at the time, space. And now that we're advanced we can interpret it as advanced beings, when really it was just people trying to make explanations for things they couldn't comprehend.
You'd have to really consider what it would take to traverse the universe and all the factors involved in doing so, things coming here could definitely be a possibility, but soon many factors making it very improbable or unlikely.
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Why do you think they have to "come here" from far away? Maybe they've been here all along or well before we emerged?
Perhaps they travel inter dimensionally where time and space simply don't exist?
Perhaps life emerged on Mars a billion years ago and advanced beings evolved there and took control of our solar system? As such, they've could have been here all along?
Maybe the universe is actually a multi-verse with many dimensions that advanced beings have mastered much the way we use frequencies on a radio?
Thinking that advanced beings travel the way we do is part of the problem.
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I've always believed in myself.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: KauaiOrca]
#21954972 - 07/17/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So is adding tons of hypotheticals to support a hypothesis with no proof.
I'm definitely open to many possibilities and I certainly don't know the answer, aliens I just don't think is likely.
I like the Mars theory though, I don't th ink it was advanced beings, but when life was on the planet it got hit with something big enough to eject material out in space, and some kind of life, probably simple organisms, we're able to survive the transfer.
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SirShroomsAlott said: So is adding tons of hypotheticals to support a hypothesis with no proof.
I'm definitely open to many possibilities and I certainly don't know the answer, aliens I just don't think is likely.
I like the Mars theory though, I don't th ink it was advanced beings, but when life was on the planet it got hit with something big enough to eject material out in space, and some kind of life, probably simple organisms, we're able to survive the transfer.
The evidence of advanced beings interacting with humans on this planet has certainly got a lot of very diverse evidence. Most of the people that say "there's no evidence" have put out zero effort to look at it because, honestly, there are mountains of it. Whether it's the ancient writings in India describing a nuclear war between two advanced civilizations, or drawings everywhere of space beings, or thousands of global military reports of alien spacecrafts, or testimony from astronauts of advanced beings they've seen, or defense secretaries on the record for knowing about the alien presence or launch pads at 12,000 feet in Bolivia, or Pyramids all over the planet or similar myths of space beings from virtually every culture on the planet or you name it …
The files of evidence are enormous. If you choose to ignore it, fine, but to say it doesn't exist is silly.
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Its a shame how people just disregard all legends and ancient stories from around the globe because they sound silly. Why are these stories soo similar from all parts of the world and around the same time yet these civilizations dont even know the others exist? History I think holds a lot of answerers.
I'm not saying its aliens from another dimension or other shit like that. But I'm not going to rule that out either
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My take on spirituality (God)
I definitely believe in something which many would call God, but I also believe in Science. I believe that God is all around us, in everything, but what God really is to me is Love. Pure unconditional love.
I wish I could elaborate more, but must leave for work. I have oodles to write about this, this type of thing fascinates me. I will say this, I have experienced God as a woman, man, and something totally alien.
Have you good day Pub.
Happy Friday
Love & Light
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Well we'll have to agree to disagree
I've seen everything you mentioned and even read books by Erik von Danakin among many others because that stuff fascinates me (if I'm spelling his name right) and all of it was claims made at face value so sorry if I'm silly solely for not believing what you believe.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Asante]
#21955017 - 07/17/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: God is inside me? How do I press rape charges.
God IS you. There is no point in the inside world and outside world that isnt you.
The sensation of your body and mind being separate from everything is an illusion.
YOU ARE CONSTRUCTING THIS WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT. ALL THE GLORY, ALL THE DOOM, THE SANITY AND MADNESS ITS ALL YOU IN YOUR MANY GUISES.
Asante please change your avatar back. It is actually very powerful and kind of convinced me the universe is a singular consciousness
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SirShroomsAlott said: Well we'll have to agree to disagree
I've seen everything you mentioned and even read books by Erik von Danakin among many others because that stuff fascinates me (if I'm spelling his name right) and all of it was claims made at face value so sorry if I'm silly solely for not believing what you believe.
At some point you do have to deal with the reality that many military personnel, including astronauts, are on the record for having seen and interacted with alien craft and beings. They have no real reason to lie about it, don't write books about it, typically admit it near the end of their lives when government non-disclosure agreements become irrelevant.
Also have to deal with the reality that the global disclosure movement is in full swing with the US being the only major nation that has still not signed on to it. Countries like England, Russia, Germany, Brazil, Belguim, France, etc. have disclosed all of the UFO military files and the discoveries are nothing short of astounding.
It gets ZERO reporting in the US. The decade long interaction between the Brazilian Air Force and alien crafts are absolutely amazing, but .00001% of Americans have even heard of it. Why would multiple astronauts come forward and admit that the alien presence has been kept secret? Why would they do that? Why would the Sec'y of Defense from Canada admit there's an alien presence on our planet? Why? These people are not writing books or making money on it at all.
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Re: To those who believe in God [Re: Roflspammer]
#21955037 - 07/17/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Roflspammer said: God is an Indian and you're an asshole, get on your horse and ride
Why am I an asshole?
@orca I haven't seen any of that and as I said I'm open to it, but th us far havent seen anything convincing.
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Roflspammer said: God is an Indian and you're an asshole, get on your horse and ride
Why am I an asshole?
@orca I haven't seen any of that and as I said I'm open to it, but th us far havent seen anything convincing.
I don't want you to take this as an attack because you come across as a very reasonable and fair person … but to be totally honest, when I hear someone say there's no evidence of an alien presence on this planet it's no different than hearing some nitwit (you're not a nitwit) say something like:
- There's no evidence of evolution - The big bang is just a fairy tale of science - Burning millions of gallons of fuel and burning coal has no impact on our climate - We never went to the moon, it's a big hoax - etc…..
There is a ton of evidence that is easily accessed. Reagan and Clinton were both OBSESSED with aliens and UFO's. John Podesta, who was Clinton's chief of staff and who now runs Hillary's campaign is the #1 advocate in the US for full disclosure. He is totally and completely convinced of the UFO presence. There are many on the record from Reagan's administration that said he was the last president to get the full briefing.
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You should check it out when you have some time. There's some pretty credible guys going on record.. I was really into that about 2 years ago.
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Psychonautica said: So that's far fetched but believing an invisible man is going to send you to a fieryy burning oblivion for all of eternity for touching your dick is resonable?
But he loves you so much...
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