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coco coir and brown rice tek
    #21954241 - 07/16/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i was wondering if i can do the pf tek with coco coir and brown rice flour as the main substrate with a dry verm topping

has this been attempted before

how badly do you think ill fuck up


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21954262 - 07/16/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i was wondering if i can do the pf tek with coco coir and brown rice flour as the main substrate with a dry verm topping

has this been attempted before

how badly do you think ill fuck up




Why not do the tek the right way. Then spawn it to coir and go bulk?


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21954278 - 07/16/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

because i dont have enough room to set up a full tray growing champer

all i have is a small closet with a small f.c i want the cakes to be more nutritious so the small cakes would produce more


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21954323 - 07/16/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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because i dont have enough room to set up a full tray growing champer

all i have is a small closet with a small f.c i want the cakes to be more nutritious so the small cakes would produce more



So you want to substitute the verm with coir....I get it.

Try it.....I doubt it would work out good, but try it.....not sure how much water you would need to add....

Just FYI BRF cakes are on the verge of being too nutritious already.....


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21954325 - 07/16/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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because i dont have enough room to set up a full tray growing champer

all i have is a small closet with a small f.c i want the cakes to be more nutritious so the small cakes would produce more




So then do the PF tek the right way. Or do monotubs which take up the same space a an SGFC. Less if you count the positioning from the floor/walls.


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: PussyFart]
    #21954337 - 07/16/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

pussy fart

u guided me on my first grow and i have great respect for you

if u say stick with the brf tek ill do it

im gonna try one cake with coco coir tho just to see if it turns out diffrent


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21954343 - 07/16/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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because i dont have enough room to set up a full tray growing champer

all i have is a small closet with a small f.c i want the cakes to be more nutritious so the small cakes would produce more




So then do the PF tek the right way. Or do monotubs which take up the same space a an SGFC. Less if you count the positioning from the floor/walls.




my p.c sucks i tried sterlizing bigger jars it didnt work all got contams

the p.c is old with the steamer broken so i have no idea what psi it is

however no half pint jar i did had no contams so ill hold off on monotubs till i can get a better p.c


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21954350 - 07/16/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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because i dont have enough room to set up a full tray growing champer

all i have is a small closet with a small f.c i want the cakes to be more nutritious so the small cakes would produce more




So then do the PF tek the right way. Or do monotubs which take up the same space a an SGFC. Less if you count the positioning from the floor/walls.




my p.c sucks i tried sterlizing bigger jars it didnt work all got contams

the p.c is old with the steamer broken so i have no idea what psi it is

however no half pint jar i did got a contam so ill hold off on monotubs till i can get a better p.c




You do not require a PC to do PF tek. If you have one though, I would just do grains. I really do not care for BRF cakes. Especially if you are trying to utilize Coir. You can wait for someone else to chime in though.


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21954359 - 07/16/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i remember reading that coco coir holds 3 times more water then verm so i figured itd make since to replace the verm with it


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21954367 - 07/16/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i remember reading that coco coir holds 3 times more water then verm so i figured itd make since to replace the verm with it




Feel free to experiment and innovate. I go with methods which produce proven results. Every time. Good luck.


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21954372 - 07/16/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ill do half and half as a fail safe


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21954642 - 07/17/15 02:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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all i have is a small closet with a small f.c i want the cakes to be more nutritious so the small cakes would produce more



:underage:


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: Buck513]
    #21955050 - 07/17/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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all i have is a small closet with a small f.c i want the cakes to be more nutritious so the small cakes would produce more



:underage:



You have been warned about trolling several times....stop it.


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: PussyFart]
    #21955949 - 07/17/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

not underage just dont want my room mate to find out


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21955953 - 07/17/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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not underage just dont want my room mate to find out




That is still very uncool. You are putting them at a lot of risk without their knowledge. I am not trolling you either. I am serious.


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21955954 - 07/17/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

and i decided to stick to the tried and true method why go astray


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21955959 - 07/17/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

itll be on me if anything happens


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21955978 - 07/17/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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itll be on me if anything happens




You are gonna do what you want to anyway....Just saying that is not always how the legal system works and it is not cool. Good luck with you project.


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21956006 - 07/17/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:wizard:


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: PussyFart]
    #21956016 - 07/17/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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all i have is a small closet with a small f.c i want the cakes to be more nutritious so the small cakes would produce more



:underage:



You have been warned about trolling several times....stop it.



Well if you want to be technical, I tend to get in trouble for flaming. I'll get pissed off and go on a rant in mush cult.

The "underage" smiley cant even be considered trolling. Get out of here notahacker. I used it because that was my first thought reading this


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: Buck513]
    #21956062 - 07/17/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Super uncool man. PLUS if your roommate knows then he knows not to let the fuzz in without a warrant. Think about it, cop knocks on the door, says they had a report and asks to come inside. Boom. Game fucking over.

You don't have room, here's what you do. Do the fucking PF Tek. Normal like.
Get a few somewhat shallow Tupperware containers. Mix up the coir and verm. Crumble one cake per tupperware and mix it with the verm. Put the lid on it. Wait. Sounds like you don't want to have a fruiting chamber at all, so at least this way you can maintain the moisture a bit more when you want to fruit. Or start and outdoor garden.

Not trying to be a dick but this is too easy:


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21956105 - 07/17/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

can i do it out doors rn (its almost fall) and is there a tek or do i just dig a hole and put in the mycelium


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21956106 - 07/17/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i can just put them in the woods in that case


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21956235 - 07/17/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That would work. After I birthed my cakes I had a bit of cobweb form, so I zapped it with H2O2 then excised a thin layer of tissue. Buried it in the garden and the shit is taking off (Granted the bed was >50% compost).
Anything sketchy I get I've been layering it in the same spot to feed the culture, like today I THOUGHT one of my jars had a black spot on it so I poppped it open and started thumbing down into the spot, huge amounts of growth. Really neat to see from a couple thin slices of cakes.

Be careful about setting something up in a public place that isnt secluded. Woods by the acre = good, woods in a park = bad


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21956282 - 07/17/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

so mix with compost wait for it to colonize the shit

then bury


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21956309 - 07/17/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No, do the NORMAL PF TEK.
2 Cups Verm mixed with 1 Cup water, mix in 1 cup BRF, jars,
steam sterilize for 120m (do not use too much water or you'll flood the cakes)
Inoculate in a STERILE environment
let colonize to 100%,
wait a week for consolidation
throw a brick of coir into a bucket and pour 2 qts (right?) vermiculite on top
Dump hot water over it, close the bucket for a few hours
Take the bucket to your site with your colonized and consolidated jars
Dig small hole
Throw in light layer of coir mix
Crumble cakes on top
Mix in more coir mix to fill the hole
mix up generously
Throw some kinda peat or something on top
Water daily


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21956437 - 07/17/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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That would work. After I birthed my cakes I had a bit of cobweb form, so I zapped it with H2O2 then excised a thin layer of tissue. Buried it in the garden and the shit is taking off (Granted the bed was >50% compost).
Anything sketchy I get I've been layering it in the same spot to feed the culture, like today I THOUGHT one of my jars had a black spot on it so I poppped it open and started thumbing down into the spot, huge amounts of growth. Really neat to see from a couple thin slices of cakes.

Be careful about setting something up in a public place that isnt secluded. Woods by the acre = good, woods in a park = bad



Really? You got cobweb in pf cakes that you just birthed?
That's very uncommon.


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: Buck513]
    #21956468 - 07/17/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not just, about a week in I saw it starting and went all out on it. Don't play with your jars while they are colonizing


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    #21956493 - 07/17/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Don't play with your jars while they are colonizing



Well duh.

That's probably the most common mistake noobs make.
Oh shit, its been 3 hours let me check it.


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: Al Bundy]
    #21956512 - 07/17/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Either way, getting mold in pf jars is rare.


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: Buck513]
    #21956542 - 07/17/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Either way, getting mold in pf jars is rare.



I just happen to be that talented


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21956556 - 07/17/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i got a contam once but that was my first attempt and i used corn instead of brf mixture because i was a fkin noob lmaooo


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21956647 - 07/17/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well wanting to go against the advice of more seasoned growers (Not myself) is a pretty noob move too, brother.


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21958706 - 07/17/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

we learn and get better no one is a noob forever


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Re: coco coir and brown rice tek [Re: moehd]
    #21958711 - 07/17/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When it comes to mycology, were all noobs.


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