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Cant smoke anymore. Any good legal cannabinoids?
#21952822 - 07/16/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sup guys.
Tl;dr how can i pass probation drug tests while still smoking?
Firstly, i expect a bunch of "quit smoking" posts, and thats fine. But im not looking for that here.
I just got put on probation for 18 months with a random UA every month. Bunch of bullshit. Ive never been in trouble before. And ive been a daily pot smoker for over ten years.
Is there anyway to pass these tests while still smoking? I was looking into the whizzinator but that seems pretty sketchy.
I also read a lot of people swearing by Certp to pass probation tests.. Can anyone verify if thats bullshit or true? Wouldnt that come up diluted?
Please if anyone has any advice for a stoner on probation.. Im all ears.
First test is in about 13 days. Unsure if i will be watched while i pee. Im going to assume they will be watching.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Quit The Cult]
#21952845 - 07/16/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have had many friends think they can somehow beat their UA test once on probation.
They all failed.
Quit smoking.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Herbologist]
#21952901 - 07/16/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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whats more important to you pot or anal penetration and lack of freedom..
there is a reason law enforcement does these drug tests. They know all the ways people "think" they can cheat it, its like people think they can fake out a breathalyzer or polygraph. The only real way to pass it is to use clean urine and if you go in there and they watch you, they have been trained to know what to look for.
Reevaluate your priorities because if you don't stop for 18 months you will most likely be forced to stop for years.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Quit The Cult]
#21952910 - 07/16/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quit The Cult said: First, I expect a bunch of "quit smoking" posts, and that's fine. But I'm not looking for that here.
You can always find a way to smoke in jail. Why do you think it's worth risking jail and throwing away lots of career options so you don't have to take an 18 month break? If you don't have a GREAT answer to that question, then you should at least quit being an idiot. You already got busted once. Why would you want to start a pattern.
Also, I hope you stopped smoking about a week ago. Otherwise you're probably fucked, and you won't need to find a way to pass anymore drug tests.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: RescueShroom]
#21952921 - 07/16/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am just a desperate stoner.
Im gonna smoke the weekend away and stop monday if i have to.. It will be easier to stop on the weekday because i work full time. Ten days would be enough time to pass yeah? Im 120 pounds and 5'9".
Thinking of getting an e cig with 0% nicotine to give me something to smoke on instead.... Thoughts?
Too bad the days of good k2 are gone.. I used to enjoy the Mr. Nice Guy blends when i didnt have bud.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#21952925 - 07/16/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quit The Cult said: First, I expect a bunch of "quit smoking" posts, and that's fine. But I'm not looking for that here.
Also, I hope you stopped smoking about a week ago. Otherwise you're probably fucked, and you won't need to find a way to pass anymore drug tests.
Pretty much.
It took me a full 3-4 weeks to get clean when I tried.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Herbologist]
#21952929 - 07/16/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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My friend who is about my size was clean in 8 days for his test... Courts know i smoked 4 days ago and i have the test in 2 weeks. So i think if i fail the first one it wont be the worst thing. But failing any after that would be terrible.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Quit The Cult]
#21952931 - 07/16/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quit The Cult said: I am just a desperate stoner.
Im gonna smoke the weekend away and stop monday if i have to.. It will be easier to stop on the weekday because i work full time. Ten days would be enough time to pass yeah? Im 120 pounds and 5'9".
Thinking of getting an e cig with 0% nicotine to give me something to smoke on instead.... Thoughts?
Too bad the days of good k2 are gone.. I used to enjoy the Mr. Nice Guy blends when i didnt have bud.
10 days is cutting it so close. Smoke the weekend away?
So you're going to give yourself a nice dose of THC all weekend. You're gonna make it even HARDER to pass.
You're gonna wanna shoot yourself when you fail that test and realize you could of possibly passed.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Quit The Cult]
#21952933 - 07/16/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quit The Cult said: My friend who is about my size was clean in 8 days for his test...
Everyone is different.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Quit The Cult]
#21952940 - 07/16/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quit right now, man. You should find a way to schedule it later if it's at all possible. If you smoke daily it can take a longer than you've already got to test clean.
https://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_testing.shtml
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Herbologist]
#21952949 - 07/16/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Herbologist said:
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Quit The Cult said: My friend who is about my size was clean in 8 days for his test...
Everyone is different.
This, and it depends on how frequently you smoke. You will not have fun in jail.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#21952972 - 07/16/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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In my experience there is no way. I tried a few supplements and failed those tests. In my city a whizzanator definitely wouldn't work because I had to drop my pants and underwear to my knees and could pull them up before peeing in the cup. I know it's not what your looking for but really just quit
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: WyoMX]
#21952976 - 07/16/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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WyoMX said: In my experience there is no way. I tried a few supplements and failed those tests. In my city a whizzanator definitely wouldn't work because I had to drop my pants and underwear to my knees and could pull them up before peeing in the cup. I know it's not what your looking for but really just quit
Best post yet. Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Quit The Cult] 1
#21952978 - 07/16/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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He said what we already said.
Nothing works. Quit smoking.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Quit The Cult] 1
#21952986 - 07/16/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quit The Cult said: My friend who is about my size was clean in 8 days for his test... Courts know i smoked 4 days ago and i have the test in 2 weeks. So i think if i fail the first one it wont be the worst thing. But failing any after that would be terrible.
Have you ever been to jail?
They WILL supervise your piss test. If you use the prosthetic penis you will catch an additional charge as defrauding that test is a felony. ] Secondly, I have had a NUMBER of friends use every detox method in the book. From Niacin to chugging Crannberry juice, to Detox drinks, ect. Guess what? They are in jail for violating their probation.
What is actually more important than going to jail is having a felony on your record. I do not know what charge you are facing, but if part of your plea bargain was to pass drug tests and do probation successfully...you are going to SERIOUSLY regret smoking if you ever want to vote again or own a firearm.
I probably smoke as much or more than you so I understand what quitting means. I have also been to jail as much or more than you and know what that means as well. STOP SMOKING.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Quit The Cult]
#21952987 - 07/16/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No problem man. Also definitely keep blazing until you have your first meeting or whatever. When it's positive they send in and get the levels and as long as they consistently go down your fine.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Herbologist]
#21953027 - 07/16/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: He said what we already said.
Nothing works. Quit smoking.
I'm butthurt about it too.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: WyoMX]
#21953043 - 07/16/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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WyoMX said: No problem man. Also definitely keep blazing until you have your first meeting or whatever. When it's positive they send in and get the levels and as long as they consistently go down your fine.
OP, you should look up he local laws and stuff on this. It can differ by state.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#21953949 - 07/16/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are there any good legal cannabinoids worth ordering right now? I used to enjoy those Mr. Nice Guy blends back in the day.
Any good highs that dont show up on drug tests. Throw me a list. Ha.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Quit The Cult]
#21954018 - 07/16/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well you happened to have stumbled upon a website which harbors bast amounts of information about everything from ethnobotanicals to all manner of mushrooms. Maybe do some reading? The info is out there.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21954111 - 07/16/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm doing HELLA research and it seems that water won't help, exercise may, but I almost have no choice but to go the dilution route. I have a test I have to take and by then I will be roughly 24-26 days clean depending on their availability.
I weigh 144, fast metabolism, have about 11 days left. I've read working out may help long as I dont do it for a few days leading up to the test.
Rather than make a thread I figured to ask you. I used to smoke daily, high quality flowers, for a while on and off (not every single day but mostly).
Roughly .3-.8 grams each day. Already like 13 days clean at the moment. I've read about cranberry juice working, and how that has no way to work. Water as well. Just for shits and gigs I'm taking a joint 500 mg niacin/100 mg inositol capsule up to 2 times a day for now until I do more research.
I know of dilution. It's a school preliminary drug test which will be done at an external facility. If I go the dilution route (b vitamin, eat red meat a lot the days leading up to it to increase creatine levels, and drink water the day of so I'm pissing often) and they say it's TOO diluted, I probably won't make the deadline. Rather than risk going a few days too soon I'm not sure what my options are. Yes, I will be buying a drug test to take 6 days before and 2-3 days before as well.
Any help is MUCH appreciated..
I've done research. It's all wishy-washy. Water should not help in theory as the thc metabolite (product AFTER thc has been absorbed, not actually THC) is fat-soluble like THC.
DO I have ANY chance to pass? If not, is it best I don't pee? I risk losing ALL financial aid if I fail, not to mention probably never being able to go to this school. I did my best to quit in time (originally wanted to go for another career choice and that program didn't start until 2016. Found out about this literally with days to get my transcripts/take the test to get in and pass/submit FAFSA/now I have to meet, i bought myself 2 weeks but july 29 is the last day and due to the possibility of needing a retest, I may have to go like 26th.
PLEASE help if possible, this is the only thing I ever wanted to really do as it's a faster program for a bachelors in about 2.5 years. I suppose I can say "hey thanks for the acceptance but I'll wait til January" but I would rather not you know?
I don't want to try synthetic urine at a hospital facility.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Angel_Above]
#21954139 - 07/16/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Angel_Above said: I'm doing HELLA research and it seems that water won't help, exercise may, but I almost have no choice but to go the dilution route. I have a test I have to take and by then I will be roughly 24-26 days clean depending on their availability.
I weigh 144, fast metabolism, have about 11 days left. I've read working out may help long as I dont do it for a few days leading up to the test.
Rather than make a thread I figured to ask you. I used to smoke daily, high quality flowers, for a while on and off (not every single day but mostly).
Roughly .3-.8 grams each day. Already like 13 days clean at the moment. I've read about cranberry juice working, and how that has no way to work. Water as well. Just for shits and gigs I'm taking a joint 500 mg niacin/100 mg inositol capsule up to 2 times a day for now until I do more research.
I know of dilution. It's a school preliminary drug test which will be done at an external facility. If I go the dilution route (b vitamin, eat red meat a lot the days leading up to it to increase creatine levels, and drink water the day of so I'm pissing often) and they say it's TOO diluted, I probably won't make the deadline. Rather than risk going a few days too soon I'm not sure what my options are. Yes, I will be buying a drug test to take 6 days before and 2-3 days before as well.
Any help is MUCH appreciated..
I've done research. It's all wishy-washy. Water should not help in theory as the thc metabolite (product AFTER thc has been absorbed, not actually THC) is fat-soluble like THC.
DO I have ANY chance to pass? If not, is it best I don't pee? I risk losing ALL financial aid if I fail, not to mention probably never being able to go to this school. I did my best to quit in time (originally wanted to go for another career choice and that program didn't start until 2016. Found out about this literally with days to get my transcripts/take the test to get in and pass/submit FAFSA/now I have to meet, i bought myself 2 weeks but july 29 is the last day and due to the possibility of needing a retest, I may have to go like 26th.
PLEASE help if possible, this is the only thing I ever wanted to really do as it's a faster program for a bachelors in about 2.5 years. I suppose I can say "hey thanks for the acceptance but I'll wait til January" but I would rather not you know?
I don't want to try synthetic urine at a hospital facility.
If it is at all possible. get a continuance on your court date or an extension or whatever you can figure out with you lawyer (I hope you have one.)
You are saying at most you will be 26 days clean? Minimally 24 days clean? Exercise as much as you physically can. Eat as much high fat high protein food as you can. Drink as much water (whether it is cranberry juice or gatorade or whatever it is really just water) and continue to take healthy doses of vitamins and minerals. If you are the height and weight you say you are then you may be able to legitimately pass this if the time frames in your post above are indeed correct.
*Edit after re reading your post you state two different time frames. When do you in fact have to test? Substitution for a school test (not a probation or court) may be a better route if you only have 12 days.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21954253 - 07/16/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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get some plain salvia leaf for the time being OP.
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Trichome_Delta9 said: get some plain salvia leaf for the time being OP.
What do you feel that will do for him? Salvinorin A and the various active constituents of Cannabis are very very different.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Angel_Above]
#21954261 - 07/16/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh i meant 12 days from today, already 13 days clean. I can push about 15 days from now to be about 26 days clean max, but if I fail a test a day or two before that I have to try the dilution method of b vitamin, lots of red meat to increase creatine, and then lots of water beforehand so I pee once every 20 minutes or so.
The place is only about 14 minutes from my house most likely.
Done in a hospital. The problem is this is already pushing it back, by july 29 I will be 26 days clean. That's the last day and if they say I have to retest I risk not getting into the school, that's the deadline.
But also, if I FAIL I lose my FAFsa/private loans for a full calendar year from what I've read.
Some online calcluator based on my 144 weight, fast metabolism, smoking regularly roughly .5 grams of high quality a day, 5'7'' said by day 45 I will pass 90 percent of tests?
I told them "I'll be on vacation for two weeks" when they said I had one of the highest scores they've had for a while. Thats when I got the letter in the mail about the deadline.
Plus if I fail I'm pretty sure the school will log that and may never let me get in (for a medical professional type school)
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21954271 - 07/16/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The trip is short lived and intense and salvia has properties to treat drug addiction. That or Kratom. just remember, Moderation. I think salvia would not be bad as a substitute dor cannabis IMO.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Angel_Above]
#21954275 - 07/16/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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this is so variable based on individual physiology it is truly impossible to tell. Sounds like you know what you need to do. Cease usage of Cannabis. Increase exercise. Increase caloric intake. Increase water intake. Hope for the best.....there is no miracle of science that will save you. Other than substitution, which is better achieved with real urine anyway.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Angel_Above]
#21954282 - 07/16/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I recommend kava over kratom any day. Kava feels very close to THC, I guess mainly because the main psychoactive in kava is a cannabinoid
If you take a good dose of kava, you will feel like you smoked the best sativa ever. Not much of a body high, but there is a VERY intense sativa head high that comes with no anxiety.
I don't think it would show up on a THC test even though it has cannabinoids in it, but I may be mistaken. Kava is however legal even to ingest for recreation (for example kava bars) so if it did you could use that as your reason.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21954289 - 07/16/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Could you explain to me what Kava is?
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21954293 - 07/16/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SteveRogers said: this is so variable based on individual physiology it is truly impossible to tell. Sounds like you know what you need to do. Cease usage of Cannabis. Increase exercise. Increase caloric intake. Increase water intake. Hope for the best.....there is no miracle of science that will save you. Other than substitution, which is better achieved with real urine anyway.
Synthetic urine you mean?
I don't want to attach someone's pee to my leg due to temperature control. But if it comes down to it I guess I'll have to.
This is the closest I've been to my dream job and I know I can do it, there's just this one small aspect lol.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Angel_Above]
#21954299 - 07/16/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Angel_Above said:
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SteveRogers said: this is so variable based on individual physiology it is truly impossible to tell. Sounds like you know what you need to do. Cease usage of Cannabis. Increase exercise. Increase caloric intake. Increase water intake. Hope for the best.....there is no miracle of science that will save you. Other than substitution, which is better achieved with real urine anyway.
Synthetic urine you mean?
I don't want to attach someone's pee to my leg due to temperature control. But if it comes down to it I guess I'll have to.
This is the closest I've been to my dream job and I know I can do it, there's just this one small aspect lol.
No. I mean REAL urine. Fake urine has been discovered by more sophisticated tests. I would not bet my job on it.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Angel_Above]
#21954301 - 07/16/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh shit youre trying to pass a drug test? just get a fake dick that pees for you that is what i hear is best but ive heard cleansers can work but i wouldnt trust hem for a dream job.
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Trichome_Delta9 said: Oh shit youre trying to pass a drug test? just get a fake dick that pees for you that is what i hear is best but ive heard cleansers can work but i wouldnt trust hem for a dream job.
What thread have you been responding to?
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21954308 - 07/16/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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the Op and Subject and some peoples responses had me spun. but im good
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Trichome_Delta9 said: Could you explain to me what Kava is?
It is a plant people in the pacific have been consuming for years
You drink it in a tea, or you can put it in capsules for easier use via an extraction
It has a ton of alkaloids in it, but non are dominately psychoactive aside from yangonin, which is the cannabinoid in kava that binds only to the CB1 receptor (which would explain why it is all head high no body high)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangonin
The other alkaloids in kava are for more relaxing effects, sedation, etc.
It is the closest thing I have found to weed that is safe
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
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Is it legal and sold at headshops? i have bought kratom and asked if they had anything else that acutally does something they told me no so i guessed kratom is the only legal high ATM.
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It is 100% legal, you can even advertise it's use for recreation in most states
Doubt a head shop would carry it but I would check an herbal/supplement pharmacy or just buy it online
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21954375 - 07/16/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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will do. is it noticeable and strong?
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take niacin two days before u gotta drug test u'll pass
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: moehd]
#21954396 - 07/16/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moehd said: take niacin two days before u gotta drug test u'll pass
That is terrible advice.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21954399 - 07/16/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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it worked for me multiple times you just have to use the right dosage for your body type
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: moehd]
#21954401 - 07/16/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moehd said: it worked for me multiple times you just have to use the right dosage for your body type
Glad it worked for you. That is by no means a way to reliably pass a drug test. Nothing is except not doing drugs. Do not give advice like that.
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Trichome_Delta9 said: will do. is it noticeable and strong?
It is for sure it will feel exactly like a pure sativa without the anxiety but tolerance builds fast and it won't feel nearly as awesome after 3-4 days if you take it daily
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21954429 - 07/17/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moehd said: it worked for me multiple times you just have to use the right dosage for your body type
That is by no means a way to reliably pass a drug test. Nothing is except not doing drugs. Do not give advice like that.
your absolutely right however there is science behind why niacin works to flush thc out of ur system
it works and is repeatable
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: moehd]
#21954434 - 07/17/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moehd said: it worked for me multiple times you just have to use the right dosage for your body type
That is by no means a way to reliably pass a drug test. Nothing is except not doing drugs. Do not give advice like that.
your absolutely right however there is science behind why niacin works to flush thc out of ur system
it works and is repeatable
Ok. Site a source please.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21954440 - 07/17/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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"So how can niacin be a booster rocket for detoxing? Niacin ruptures the fat cells that store toxins, thus releasing those stored toxins to be eliminated. This is called lipolysis. The niacin proposed is not buffered niacinamide, which doesn't make your face and neck flush and tingle intensely. Use the niacin that makes you blush.
This protocol was developed primarily to help drug addicts detox drug toxins stored in fats. The idea was to get rid of all the drug residue that would haunt them with cravings after kicking their habit. It worked very well. So Dr. Yu thought it would be wise for non-addicts to use this method for "normal detoxification"."
http://www.naturalnews.com/033168_niacin_detoxification.html
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: moehd]
#21954443 - 07/17/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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no one is going to flat out say it detoxes thc out of fat cells but its clear as day what toxins get flushed out of fat cells
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: moehd]
#21954450 - 07/17/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Let's not hijack this thread.
He seems like he is on the right track.
The Niacin isn't going to do any harm.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21954455 - 07/17/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: moehd]
#21954464 - 07/17/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i think you should defiantly not smoke while your on probation its just weed its not worth the risk how ever if u fuck up for any reason go to niacin right away i just wanna give u tools
and also why not start shrooming u dont have to worry about drug tests with fungi
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Re: Cant smoke anymore. Any good legal cannabinoids? [Re: Quit The Cult] 1
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Quit The Cult said: Mr. Nice Guy blends back in the day.

Seriously though, just fuck it man. You can't smoke, so what. Use this time to let your body clean itself of all the funk built up in your body from smoking, and focus on what you have to do to successfully complete your probation.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21954908 - 07/17/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SteveRogers said: this is so variable based on individual physiology it is truly impossible to tell. Sounds like you know what you need to do. Cease usage of Cannabis. Increase exercise. Increase caloric intake. Increase water intake. Hope for the best.....there is no miracle of science that will save you. Other than substitution, which is better achieved with real urine anyway.
Synthetic urine you mean?
I don't want to attach someone's pee to my leg due to temperature control. But if it comes down to it I guess I'll have to.
This is the closest I've been to my dream job and I know I can do it, there's just this one small aspect lol.
No. I mean REAL urine. Fake urine has been discovered by more sophisticated tests. I would not bet my job on it.
Right, but how am I going to keep the real urine at the right temperature is the main concern?
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Angel_Above]
#21954921 - 07/17/15 06:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Put it in a condom, tape or tie it to your inner thigh.. if you must try and swindle the system.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21954925 - 07/17/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quit The Cult said: My friend who is about my size was clean in 8 days for his test... Courts know i smoked 4 days ago and i have the test in 2 weeks. So i think if i fail the first one it wont be the worst thing. But failing any after that would be terrible.
Have you ever been to jail?
They WILL supervise your piss test. If you use the prosthetic penis you will catch an additional charge as defrauding that test is a felony. ] Secondly, I have had a NUMBER of friends use every detox method in the book. From Niacin to chugging Crannberry juice, to Detox drinks, ect. Guess what? They are in jail for violating their probation.
What is actually more important than going to jail is having a felony on your record. I do not know what charge you are facing, but if part of your plea bargain was to pass drug tests and do probation successfully...you are going to SERIOUSLY regret smoking if you ever want to vote again or own a firearm.
I probably smoke as much or more than you so I understand what quitting means. I have also been to jail as much or more than you and know what that means as well. STOP SMOKING.
Beyond just not owning a firearm or voting, but having to tell employers you are a felon. Kiss a good job goodbye for the rest of your life.
Basic background checks will easily find that shit, and copmanies run those like a motherfucker now.
Dont be a dumd kid OP, act like an adult and just quit being a damn stoner for 18 months, it aint that hard and it aint that bad. Find a new hobby to get into and enjoy your newly reawakened self when the stoner haze wears off. The ecig idea is a great one as well if you really need that habitual smoke thing. I use an ecig and I used it to quit a 18 year cig habit that I've never been able to quit before every other way.
But dude, act like an adult and grrrrooooowwwww up, you only have to for 18 months anyway then you can go right back to being a goof stoner.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Angel_Above]
#21954934 - 07/17/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Angel_Above said: I'm doing HELLA research and it seems that water won't help, exercise may, but I almost have no choice but to go the dilution route. I have a test I have to take and by then I will be roughly 24-26 days clean depending on their availability.
I weigh 144, fast metabolism, have about 11 days left. I've read working out may help long as I dont do it for a few days leading up to the test.
Rather than make a thread I figured to ask you. I used to smoke daily, high quality flowers, for a while on and off (not every single day but mostly).
Roughly .3-.8 grams each day. Already like 13 days clean at the moment. I've read about cranberry juice working, and how that has no way to work. Water as well. Just for shits and gigs I'm taking a joint 500 mg niacin/100 mg inositol capsule up to 2 times a day for now until I do more research.
I know of dilution. It's a school preliminary drug test which will be done at an external facility. If I go the dilution route (b vitamin, eat red meat a lot the days leading up to it to increase creatine levels, and drink water the day of so I'm pissing often) and they say it's TOO diluted, I probably won't make the deadline. Rather than risk going a few days too soon I'm not sure what my options are. Yes, I will be buying a drug test to take 6 days before and 2-3 days before as well.
Any help is MUCH appreciated..
I've done research. It's all wishy-washy. Water should not help in theory as the thc metabolite (product AFTER thc has been absorbed, not actually THC) is fat-soluble like THC.
DO I have ANY chance to pass? If not, is it best I don't pee? I risk losing ALL financial aid if I fail, not to mention probably never being able to go to this school. I did my best to quit in time (originally wanted to go for another career choice and that program didn't start until 2016. Found out about this literally with days to get my transcripts/take the test to get in and pass/submit FAFSA/now I have to meet, i bought myself 2 weeks but july 29 is the last day and due to the possibility of needing a retest, I may have to go like 26th.
PLEASE help if possible, this is the only thing I ever wanted to really do as it's a faster program for a bachelors in about 2.5 years. I suppose I can say "hey thanks for the acceptance but I'll wait til January" but I would rather not you know?
I don't want to try synthetic urine at a hospital facility.
Dude, you should be fine. You probably don't even need to try any tricks. I posted a link on the first page, but here it is again:
https://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_testing.shtml
The rule is 7-21 days for a daily smoker, and less for people who smoke less. You're in the clear, especially if you're hydrated and it's not your first pee of the day. Also, I think the detection levels of those at home tests are lower than the lab ones (I haven't looked in a while so I could be wrong), so don't rely on them to determine if you'll pass. But if you fail the at-home test, then you'll probably fail the real one.
And what kind of school drug tests? Fucking Nazis.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#21955027 - 07/17/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Quit The Cult]
#21955063 - 07/17/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moehd said: "So how can niacin be a booster rocket for detoxing? Niacin ruptures the fat cells that store toxins, thus releasing those stored toxins to be eliminated. This is called lipolysis. The niacin proposed is not buffered niacinamide, which doesn't make your face and neck flush and tingle intensely. Use the niacin that makes you blush.
This protocol was developed primarily to help drug addicts detox drug toxins stored in fats. The idea was to get rid of all the drug residue that would haunt them with cravings after kicking their habit. It worked very well. So Dr. Yu thought it would be wise for non-addicts to use this method for "normal detoxification"."
http://www.naturalnews.com/033168_niacin_detoxification.html
So it works on the same basic principle as snake-oil then? Just throw in some medical sounding words like "toxins" and a supposed Dr. testimonial, that's all the evidence I need 
Around here you can still get "spice" in some convienence stores. It's sold as herbal blends under names like "Bling Bling Bubble Monkey" without any specific ingredients listed, but it is some cannibinoid supposedly. Alot of people also have mental breakdowns smoking spice.
If you're fucking up enough that you're facing legal trouble due to your drug use, I'd seriously reconsider whether you need to be getting high right now. Drug prohibition is unfair, but it is what it is and I think it is dumb to try and push your luck because you're convinced you need drugs to enjoy life. If it is really that bad go to the doctor and get prescribed something.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21955374 - 07/17/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trichome_Delta9 said: will do. is it noticeable and strong?
It is for sure it will feel exactly like a pure sativa without the anxiety but tolerance builds fast and it won't feel nearly as awesome after 3-4 days if you take it daily
im interested now... i would rather find it at a store but online should work out i guess.
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21955389 - 07/17/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Around here you can still get "spice" in some convienence stores. It's sold as herbal blends under names like "Bling Bling Bubble Monkey" without any specific ingredients listed, but it is some cannibinoid supposedly. Alot of people also have mental breakdowns smoking spice.
Seizures as well in some cases.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3726077/
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Re: Probation. Drug test advice. Certo? [Re: psi]
#27244457 - 03/09/21 06:12 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have a good reason for this necro-post.
I just went through this whole thread and I think nobody answered OP about Certo Just a bunch of people saying stop smoking.

Here is another thread where a guy smoked weed and used Certo less than a day later and passed: Sounds like Certo does work... Eh? https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21547819#21547819
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