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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22110621 - 08/19/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I asked Alan about his DNA sequencing services a few weeks ago, he said that it costs around $20-$30, and you have to send in some dried specimens to have sequenced. At that point you can have the sequence analyzed, which will tell you whether or not your dealing with a true P. cinctulus. If you're super curious about a specific population that doesn't show any visible bluing, get in contact with him and he can probably give you more details on that service.

So I successfully bio'ed my P. cinctulus population last night, and they are surprisingly potent for such a small mushroom. Nowhere close to the potency of libs or cubes, of course, but more potent than I expected after reading other peoples' reports.

I tested 1g flat of cracker dry cincts. I powdered them in a mortar and pestle, and packed the powder into three vcapsules. This was around 8:00pm, after eating a deliciously satisfying dinner. I've never been a fan of taking anything on an empty stomach. With cubes this may have been a problem; cubes often make me feel bloated and gassy, especially if I've eaten a large meal beforehand. With my P. cinctulus I didn't experience a lick of gastric discomfort, which was pretty nice! If this holds true in the future, cincts will easily become my new favorite species.

As far as psychedelic effects, I began to feel them about an hour after taking the capsules, and the effects continued to build until about 11:00pm. I had excellent body effects comparable to a good dose of cubensis, but the visual distortions were very mild. I noticed very faint "breathing" effects, I felt inebriated to a point that it was difficult to walk straight at times, and there were noticeable halos around computer screens, street lights, etc. Very light level hallucinations including smoke/vapor, and a noticeable "fish-bowl" effect (hard to describe, lol). CEVs were also very mild; radiating abstract mandalas of contrasting colors (not very vivid, hardly noticeable unless you focused), at one point I saw a pattern of five-point stars which radiated the same way, I found that really interesting because mushrooms rarely give me familiar geometric shapes.

All in all, it was a pretty mild, introspective trip. There weren't all these crazy beautiful visuals distracting me, so the mental and body effects were much more pronounced. What I really liked about it, though, was the serious lack of negative effects which I've come to associate with cubensis. There were no feelings of dread or extreme anxiety during the come-up, no bloating or gas, no weakness of limbs caused by vasoconstriction. I felt wide awake from 8:00pm to 1:30am. By 1:30am the effects had worn off to a point that my drowsiness finally caught up with me, and I hit the sack like a lead brick, lol. I did get some unusual muscle cramping in my feet, and mild gas as I was laying in bed. It was really nice honestly, I can't wait to try these babies again. Next time I'll do 2-3g, and if I have enough left I'll try to do a 4-5g test as well.


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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #22112225 - 08/19/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nice write up! Sounds similar to my experience on them. It took about 40 of them dried to make a dry gram or two.


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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: DeTwizzle]
    #22112931 - 08/19/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks man, that's roughly what I took. I should have counted them so I could try a comparable fresh dose, but no biggie I can probably eyeball it, that is if the cincts come back this year. We just hit our first chill, starting to feel like autumn.

Hopefully I can score a few more grams, I wish I had an endless supply of these that I could experiment with. I'm so intrigued by this mushroom, it seems to have a gentle touch, rather youthful. I've always considered cubes to be more masculine in spirit, they can definitely get rough with you if they want to. Cincts would be a great option for people who are into microdosing, it's a very "functional" mushroom at doses of 0.25 to 1 grams. Cubes can be a bit trickier to microdose, I've had cubes that were potent enough to give me hallucinations at doses of 0.5 grams.

I should also mention that in my report above, I had also taken kratom capsules and smoked cannabis throughout the day. This is typical for me, so it's pretty easy for me to mentally isolate the effects of the mushrooms versus my typical kratom/cannabis combo. Honestly, after the cincts kicked in I smoked several bowls and didn't feel the smoke or the THC, which IMO is typical for shrooms. I have a really high tolerance to cannabis though, so this might not hold true for everyone. I also have a mild case of pharyngitis, which has been bugging the crap out of me. As soon as the shrooms kicked in it felt like my throat was a little more open, I could swallow more easily. Hopefully I don't have strep, so far I haven't seen any spots or pus bubbles. It's bugging me again today, doesn't get swollen until about one or two. The fact that I'm still smoking cigs and pot probably isn't helping, lol.


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"You decadent pig. Where the fuck do you get the nerve to go around telling those wops that I'm crazy? You worthless cocksucker. My Italian tour is already arranged for next spring & I'm going to do the whole goddamn trip wearing a bright red field marshal's uniform & accompanied by six speed-freak bodyguards bristling with Mace bombs & when I start talking about American writers & the name Tom Wolfe comes up, by god, you're going to wish you were born a fucking iguana!" - Hunter S. Thompson, 03/03/71 Letter to Tom Wolfe.


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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #22113268 - 08/19/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The one thing I noticed was that the cints really messed with my muscles. I bacically felt like a crazy Swedish masseuse laid me out the next morning. Also I had some pains in my lower back...perhaps kidneys. Nothing that lasted more than an hour or two after awakening. All in all, I'd rather eat a gram of Pan cyan and go to space or nothing at all. Now if you stumbled upon them in poo that could be a different story.


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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: DeTwizzle]
    #22115651 - 08/20/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)



If these were an active species, would I have enough? (Roughly 2 hand fulls of dry samples...in psychedelics encyclopedia it says pan subs contain 2mg-6mg psilocybin per dry gram....so 4 grams to get to 20mg if they are ultra-potent, damn...10g if they are ultra-weak...

I moved some caps early to be sure it was not layers of brown, the early prints are gray, and the old prints are obviously black....

I still think these may be pan subs...
(Somebody posted a picture in my other thread of a pan sub that looked identical to what I have...I'm putting the spores under a microscope today or tomorrow to get a positive ID...

If these are not pan subbs, what are they? What are the other black spore pan species you mentioned so I can compare?

-E. Borodin


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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22115947 - 08/20/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Probably the most suspect is  Panaeolus papilionaceus....
Here my thread that I started, in the end I never really got a true ID on them. I ate forty to sixty wet, and had very mild effects.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20104783

Also suspects...
Panaeolina foenisecii (very common)
Panaeolina rhombisperma
Panaeolina sagarae
Panaeolina microsperma
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolina


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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: DeTwizzle]
    #22120901 - 08/21/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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DeTwizzle said:
Probably the most suspect is  Panaeolus papilionaceus....
Here my thread that I started, in the end I never really got a true ID on them. I ate forty to sixty wet, and had very mild effects.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20104783

Also suspects...
Panaeolina foenisecii (very common)
Panaeolina rhombisperma
Panaeolina sagarae
Panaeolina microsperma
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolina






Thank you, this is much appreciated, specially since I'm having someone bring me a microscope, I need as many pictures of species spores as I can get for comparison...pan foes were ruled out because the spore print is Brown, but these other listed species are most helpful, thanks.

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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22154311 - 08/27/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Been out of it lately with a knee injury.  Hopefully, I won't need an operation.  Very dry lately, hopefully the small rain and humidity might bring them back.  I will chance a stroll.

As far as dosing, last summer I had so many that I decided to take about 36 alone.  It was a very introspective experience since someone I knew had threatened to hurt themself.  Since this was about the time Robin Williams had killed himself, I was getting bummed a bit.  I was basically in my kitchen with my hands on the counter and staring at the design.  I then started getting almost a series of mental images/memories of parts of my life stages.  It was like I was being shown my actions, and how I would repeat these types of actions throughout my life.  It was like some spirit was showing me the comical irrational nature of my character.  I actually started laughing and said out loud "God, I really am an asshole".  It seems I have some bad reaction to stress in 10 year cycles, and will do some way out shit to get away from it.  To say its all personal is putting it lightly.  I was being shown the truth about myself, and how ingrained it had become.  It was literally coming to me in back-to-back waves.  It had an almost 'video' effect to it since my eyes were closed.

Some other stuff is too personal, but I can certainly see the value of these actives in people getting help with who they are.  Change is very hard for many people.  I made a promise to myself (and maybe the spirit that was showing me these things) that no matter how difficult things might become, I would be a life-long parent and a more patient person. 

In any case, yes, I like microdosing also, and put some planning into making sure nothing erases the effect.  I will avoid any situation that angers me or people that just are bummers.  Work is a non-no and I won't drive etc.  If I ever do a large dose again, I think I would be better prepared.

The only "real" dose I did this summer was maybe 18.  It was a very strange thing where I started to just put my man cave together.  Doing electronics, listening to the stereo I fixed on the spot, and just moving stuff around and making the space 'mine'.  I tossed a lot of stuff and sipped some beers.  I realized that my life and space had been taken over and I was pushing back, in a non-angry use of mental energy.


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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: Gilzman]
    #22189497 - 09/04/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Slim pickens but weather is starting to pick up...

Lookey at the size of this specimen...from known good spot from previous year.



edit:  there is one foe in that pic


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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: Gilzman]
    #22189841 - 09/04/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)





I just found these 20 minutes ago...

I don't know what they are yet, but because it's been so dry they are pretty much the only fungi I've seen in the area that i found them...more and more species are starting to come up though, can't say I've seen actives really, but learning fungi is an entertaining hobby, I'm always trying to attempt identify as many as I can, I'm good with active species, but inactives I have to look up and guess at every time...

-E. Borodin


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Lepkaun]
    #22209519 - 09/08/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Sweet little treat dude.:congrats:




This is the last post by Lepkaun.  I just read about his passing.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #22562621 - 11/23/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

Lepkaun said:
Sweet little treat dude.:congrats:




This is the last post by Lepkaun.  I just read about his passing.




RIP Lepkaun, let's revive this thread next season in honor of Lep's last post. For my final "Colorado" post this year, I'm going to attach all of my Panaeolus cinctulus pictures from the 2015 season, I was finally able to upload them to my Shroomery gallery. Here's to an even better season next year, hopefully the Cincts will be popping like crazy next summer.







































In all, I got around 10-12 grams of dried Panaeolus cinctulus this year, which was awesome. These all came from two separate patches at the same park. This was my first year finding actives in Colorado, and these babies had some nice bluing reactions.

Awesome Colorado season guys! See you next year!


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #23251690 - 05/20/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Hear, Hear.  He was probably a great guy to hike with. 

I found my first today.  No sure what they are since they were in my pocket for  while and are not sporing that much.  They survived a scalping from the mowers.  I wish it would just rain a few more days.  I know the 'Springers' want to come up.  Late snows and even some rain lately.  Grasses are green and my usual spots look OK.

Seen the usual wood eating suspects in clumps already.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #23297822 - 06/01/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Things are looking up.  I see pans coming up in known spots and some subs too.  Just a hand full so far.  More rain today so maybe it will be a late spring here.

i seems to me that certain mushrooms have areas colonized and appear year after year.  They must have extensive mycelium networks that dominate that area.

i will be posting more habitat pics with subs in situ.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #23302676 - 06/03/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Back in Black





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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #23315108 - 06/06/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

A bunch of spore loaded subbs



possbly Smithii's?



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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #23378405 - 06/24/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Some spots




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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #23378417 - 06/24/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Unbelievably great rains to save th hot days...best picking so far... little ragged..many fell apart in my pocket...I tested those...veddy nice





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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #23383401 - 06/26/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I am seeing great numbers of foes in all areas.  Some are huge.  The Pan Subbs are also showing up in their typical small patches and numbers.

I also saw these pans and thought at first they were foes.  Mostly from the brownish appearance of the gills.  I then saw that the total coloration seemed different and the smell was certainly not the foe odor.

I think I saw some bluing and they printed black.  Not much in the way of spores which might indicate they are a bit drier or older.  Could these be Panaeolus olivaceus?


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #23404140 - 07/02/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Pholiotina smithii????






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