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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #22005211 - 07/27/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, active.

I wonder if Foes would also spawn on this same coffee/rabbit poop quickie deal.  Has anyone ever reported them on cow/horse dung?

I give the jar a spritz of water/H2O2 every day to keep things damp.  I don't expect any 'yield', just having fun and it will probably end up in the yard.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #22026651 - 07/31/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

New pic.  I find it amazing that the mycelia have really gone from the coffee grounds to the rabbit droppings so fast.  It's like they are concentrating on it. They also have strands that connect each poop.  I am thinking of topping off the jar with more poop and letting it fully colonize.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #22035492 - 08/02/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

wow, that myc looks awesome. haven't tried my subbs yet, but ill be be sure to report back when i do


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: isic]
    #22036379 - 08/03/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Too hot lately to hit the spots.  Lawn guys are scalping the grass and just killing it.  Cops on bicycles too.

Mycelium is fascinating in it's speed of growth.  Also, it seems to be dynamic in its spread, like there is some amount of 'thought' to it.  I once read that we look at trees wrong.  That is, the real 'brain' part of the tree is the root system.  The trunk and branches and leaves are just the 'legs'...I suppose the underworld life of mushrooms is as unknown as many other aspects of fungi.

We got some decent rain and a cool night last night.  I may take an early morning stroll...


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #22041224 - 08/04/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, the subbs have dried up for me as well. Too hot, no rain. We got a little bit of rain last night, it might have been enough to get a couple more to fruit. I'm going to check later today so I'll report back.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #22041240 - 08/04/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I live in Denver as well and have gathered a large amount of identical fungi...

What was the Latin name of the look-alike species?

-E. Borodin


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22046411 - 08/05/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Panaeolina foenisecii. Panaeolina because of the brown spore print. Panaeolus is distinguished from Panaeolina by having a jet black spore print instead. You want to learn to distinguish the Pan. specimens from all of the other lawn mushrooms first. Then you want to be able to distinguish P. foenisecii from P. cinctulus. Cinctulus is active, foenisecii is not. P. cinctulus is nicknamed the "red cap" because it has reddish tones that the P. foenisecii does not have. P. cinctulus will also occasionally bruise blue at the base of the stem. Check the color against a white piece of paper, and if it looks even slightly blue than you may have a P. cinctulus. They are also nicknamed "banded mottlegills" because the gills are mottled (not a solid color, they have splotches of light and dark color on the gills, which makes the gills look spotted).  When dry, the gills of P. cinctulus will be jet black, there should be no visible shades of brown or purple. Check out the imgur gallery that I linked earlier in the thread, one of those pics highlights the difference between the gills of dried P. cinctulus and P. foenisecii specimens.

You can also take pics of your shrooms and bring them here, we can help you go through the process of identifying cinctulus vs foenisecii.

Also, this is unrelated, but do you also post over at the Entheogen Network forums? There is a member that that signs his posts "E. Borodin", are you one in the same? :P If so, cool to see you. I've been posting over at EDOT for years.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #22047523 - 08/05/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Panaeolina foenisecii. Panaeolina because of the brown spore print. Panaeolus is distinguished from Panaeolina by having a jet black spore print instead. You want to learn to distinguish the Pan. specimens from all of the other lawn mushrooms first. Then you want to be able to distinguish P. foenisecii from P. cinctulus. Cinctulus is active, foenisecii is not. P. cinctulus is nicknamed the "red cap" because it has reddish tones that the P. foenisecii does not have. P. cinctulus will also occasionally bruise blue at the base of the stem. Check the color against a white piece of paper, and if it looks even slightly blue than you may have a P. cinctulus. They are also nicknamed "banded mottlegills" because the gills are mottled (not a solid color, they have splotches of light and dark color on the gills, which makes the gills look spotted).  When dry, the gills of P. cinctulus will be jet black, there should be no visible shades of brown or purple. Check out the imgur gallery that I linked earlier in the thread, one of those pics highlights the difference between the gills of dried P. cinctulus and P. foenisecii specimens.

You can also take pics of your shrooms and bring them here, we can help you go through the process of identifying cinctulus vs foenisecii.

Also, this is unrelated, but do you also post over at the Entheogen Network forums? There is a member that that signs his posts "E. Borodin", are you one in the same? :P If so, cool to see you. I've been posting over at EDOT for years.




I know most my lawn mushrooms in my area fairly well, though it could really do me some good to learn more, I think I may have misidentified the pan subs for a look alike species, I never intended on consuming them, simply wanted them for my collection (I have a sample of nearly every shamanic  or entheogenic plant known) the only spore print I have was on light blue paper, so it's hard to distinguish color, I have a good deal of dry samples left.


This is the underside of a dried sample, I know it's hard to see detail as far as the gills go, but this is the best picture I could get.


Spore print


Some of the dried samples


I was never 100% on the I'D here, I just thought they looked like pan subs, and when they were wet they really did, I've never seen dried pan subs aside from my possibly misidentified sample, so I can't say from that regard, it would have been nice to have in my collection, but if I have to throw them out it's no big deal.


I used to post on entheogen network quite a bit under the name entheogenic-gnosis, but it's been a long time, it's a great site, it was just going really slow when I was posting, so I took a brake,I may return, perhaps it's picked up a bit.

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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22047555 - 08/05/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)





It was not letting me enlarge the images when I clicked on them, it said "this image has been deleted by its original poster" when it has not been deleted at all, it's downloaded into my pics...I don't know what the deal is here so I tried again by re-downloading two of the pictures and re-posting them




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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22047560 - 08/05/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Damn, still not working for me...

If your not able to enlarge the images let me know and I'll try to fix the issue...

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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22047575 - 08/05/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



Trying one more time...

Even in my pictures folder when I click it says "this image has been deleted by its original poster" when the inmates are still on my device and downloaded into my pics folder on this site...

Maybe it's just not working for me...

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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22047585 - 08/05/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



It his one just says "loading" forever... ...

I'm Sorry my technical issue has caused me to repost these images

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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22047652 - 08/05/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think it's a site-wide issue right now, a lot of people are having the same problem. Try using a third party image host, I prefer imgur, and post the link here.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #22051864 - 08/06/15 05:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I think it's a site-wide issue right now, a lot of people are having the same problem. Try using a third party image host, I prefer imgur, and post the link here.




I'm not tech savvy in any way, and I'm on a kindle, but I'll try to fugue this out....

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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: isic]
    #22092710 - 08/14/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Not sure how the rains have been up there in Denver, but Colorado Springs has been getting a lot of rain over the last two or three days. We even had some flooding on the west side from the burn scars in the Waldo Canyon area.

I've been hitting my patches over the last few days. Yesterday and the day before weren't very productive, but the cincts were definitely coming back up. Today I hit a small jackpot, probably my best daily haul so far.



A very tiny blue bruise on this next one. View it in full res:









Coincidentiaoppositorum, yours do look very close to P. cinctulus but I can't be sure from the pics. Keep watching the patch until you can get some particularly large specimens and try to get them onto the spore paper quickly, good cincts will leave a thick dusting of jet black, like a donut drawn with a black sharpie. Or try to get some specimens from your patch that have visible bruising.


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Re: ** THE OFFICIAL COLORADO ACTIVES THREAD ** [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #22094577 - 08/15/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's been mildly drizzling from time to time, or scattered light rains, but no heavy rain in in denver over the last few days..

Found these fresh samples the other day, though I'm certain these are not pan subs, they looked pretty close though...

What do you think?




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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22095099 - 08/15/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)




These came from the same area, I'm getting a spore print now.

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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22095336 - 08/15/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



It said I deleted it again with the last one, I hope this one works...

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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22095729 - 08/15/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It said I deleted it again with the last one, I hope this one works...

-E. Borodin




They look like foes to me.

When you find one you will know it. Cinctlus are not as fragile as the foes and the the gills will look more black than brown.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: TBJ12]
    #22095771 - 08/15/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I have had a feeling they were not pan subs, the stems do seem rather weak, but the spore prints are black... I'm still going to attempt a positive ID just out of curiosity though.

I have some dried samples that I thought were Panaeolus olivaceus but they had some of the unidentified pan species mixed in as well...pictured below



The ones that turned black when dry were the possible Panaeolus olivaceus, but then again these could be all "foes" all 3 of these species look.very similar and share the same habitat, there are ways to distinguish by the gills when they are dry or something...I really can't remember what I was told...

If somebody is willing to break down the basics of differentiating these looks-a-likes or can reference me to
A source of information on the matter it would be most helpful.

Thanks,

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