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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #21976482 - 07/21/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nice finds Gilzman!

I went back to my spot this morning, but the grass had been mowed so I didn't find anything.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: isic]
    #21979859 - 07/22/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

We had rain, so I tried to get up and beat the lawn guys at my fave spot.  Found a new flush but I know I mixed in some big Foes...Let's play guess the foe...







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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #21980249 - 07/22/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

WOW! Sweet haul Gilzman! :thumbup:

I went to my usual spot and still nothing, but I decided to drive to another park to see what I could find and bam!




Pretty sure I might have a foe or two, but I'm making prints now to weed them out.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: isic]
    #21980290 - 07/22/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Mostly good.  But, you can see the size of some of these foes.

I take all the paper, with the spores, and put my morning coffee grounds into the paper, ball it up and bury it under one of the rabbit hang outs I see. Rabbits are nasty and like to stay in the same spot and crap.  I hear they eat that shit a couple of times.



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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #21980777 - 07/22/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nice guys, sounds like everyone's scoring today. I got my biggest haul all week, spent about three hours at the park hunting them down. Some were collected from the same patch as before, others came from two new patches which I found at the same park. One of these patches showed some vivid bluing, I tried to capture this in a few of the pics but it didn't come out as well as I'd hoped. The blue fades pretty quickly as the stems darken after picking, within minutes basically. I found one specimen that had dropped a black dusting of spores onto the cap of its brother just below. I think it shows up in the pics (the one that looks like it has a black bruise on the cap).

There may be a few foes in the mix, I'll pick those out after they dry, when it's a lot easier to see the gill difference. I'm hopeful that I'll get some good spore prints on paper this time around, I have way more specimens to print than any other time before.

I like your idea with the moist coffee grounds and spore papers, Gilzman. I wonder if I could successfully transport this population into my yard or compost pile that way. Surely if I get enough spore mass in a slurry some will take hold before the contaminants can kill them.

Here's the additions to the album, scroll forward to see the new pics (all the pics behind it were linked earlier in the thread):

Hunting Cinctulus in Colorado Springs (Cont'd)


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #21981577 - 07/22/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

HELL YEAH!!!!

'Tis the season for us Colorado pickers! :headbang3:


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: isic]
    #21981993 - 07/22/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So good spores here...



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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #21982007 - 07/22/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think I got some good spores too!



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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #21982035 - 07/22/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have mentioned this before, but I believe the Subbs and Foes smell different.  The Foes have a cloying perfumey/fruity smell I can't stand.  The subbs smell more earthy or shroomy.  try doing a test.  Get a mixed batch and separate them.  Take a handful of each and then smell them.  mLet me know, maybe it's just me...



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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #21982136 - 07/22/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I have mentioned this before, but I believe the Subbs and Foes smell different.  The Foes have a cloying perfumey/fruity smell I can't stand.  The subbs smell more earthy or shroomy.  try doing a test.  Get a mixed batch and separate them.  Take a handful of each and then smell them.  mLet me know, maybe it's just me...






Definitely! They both smell distinctively different, especially dried. To me though, the dried foes smell very, VERY similar to dried cubes where as the subbs have the "shroomy" smell you describe. The dried subbs to me smell a little like store bought shrooms, but a little more wild smelling.

I constantly smell these two jars to get a good idea of smell, because that's just another tool to use for identification.



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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: isic]
    #21983350 - 07/23/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, I was talking about fresh, and a quick means to "toss or keep", but you're right, when dried there is another smell and I have never thought to keep the foes very long.  I hate to say it, but the subbs sort of have a dog-breath smell when dried.  I dry by using absorbent paper and just a reading lamp with halogen bulb.  No high temps since CO is dry enough.

Is it me or have the current and past summer been wetter, more humid, and even cooler?


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #21983559 - 07/23/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When they are fresh I think they are harder to tell apart by smell (and visually for that matter). They both seem to have a very similar smell to me when fresh. But after they are dry, they seem to separate themselves more clearly... visually and by odor.

I just leave my shrooms on a little Styrofoam plate and let them dry by air over night. Drying cubes in Texas was different story though, lol.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: isic]
    #21983692 - 07/23/15 09:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well, smell is subjective.  I just use it as another means to not overload when hunting.  I usually wear swim trunks with webbed pockets.  I keep the fragile ones in my left hand.

I am going to try the following:

1.  Take a spore print and do a starter mycelium on coffee grounds
2.  Get a nice big horse turd, Dig a narrow fairly deep hole, fill the bottom with grass clippings, and put turd in there so it's slightly below ground level
3.  When the coffee grounds are over run with mycelium, I will transfer to the center of the top of the turd
4.  Cover with soil

I might do a soak in the hole before putting in the turd.  I collect rain water, which is illegal in CO (but pot is OK), and as a gardener, I will mix Hydrogen peroxide into that rain water.  This adds extra O2 I believe.  I have 5 foot tall tomato plants and can show pics of 1 pound tomatoes.  I do organic, of course.


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #21984007 - 07/23/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah smell can be different for everyone.

When I go hunting, I usually carry a little cloth bag (kinda like a crown royal bag, but bigger) and I put 4 or so little plastic cups in it. This way I can keep the different species I find separate and the little plastic cups protect the mushrooms from damage.

I usually collect many different species at once as well as photograph a lot of fungi so I'm not too worried about being discrete, but I understand not wanting to look suspicious.

Also, I am not positive so don't quote me on it, but I heard from someone recently who said that the rain collecting laws here in Colorado have changed and we are now allowed to collect two 55 gal. drums of rain water. Not sure if it's true or not, but I use rain water for my garden as well. :wink:


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: isic]
    #21984901 - 07/23/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Another day, another score!



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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: isic]
    #21984938 - 07/23/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Here are some pics I took before harvesting











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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: isic]
    #21987532 - 07/23/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Found about half a dozen when I checked the park earlier today. They had mowed the park, sometime around noon I would guess (I found a subb that was injured by the mower). A few brave souls had their heads poking over the grass line though, so they probably popped after the mowing. I saw tons of little pins yesterday though, so they'll probably start popping again pretty soon. Checked another park down the highway but found zilch.



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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #21997336 - 07/25/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Jackpot!


The prep...


The prints...


The patch!


Closer...


Even closer...


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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: isic]
    #22002490 - 07/27/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nice finds.  Do you notice rabbit droppings around there?

I 'spawned' some black spores onto fresh-brewed coffee grounds.  I then dropped a half dozen dried rabbit turds onto the mycelium.  I took these and 'baked' them in sunlight under glass.

The mycelium has just attacked the turds.



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Re: 1st legit Pan subb haul! [Re: Gilzman]
    #22004323 - 07/27/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That mycelium looks nice Gilzman, I buried a ball of warm coffee grounds and spores out in my compost pile but I'll be surprised if they actually take and push out a few fruiting bodies. I may go check my spot today, I looked there on Saturday but didn't see jack.

Have either of you sampled your cinctulus collection yet? I've been thinking about trying them but I keep chickening out. I've only got maybe five to six grams, some people say you need that much just for one trip, though I've read of people who have had cinctulus that were potent at one to two grams. I've heard that potency varies greatly from mushroom to mushroom, even when collected from the same patch, so I might powder mine into a flour to even out the potency.


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