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Seeing demons on psychedelics
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A few days ago, I drank most of the day and ate 4 grams of shrooms. My experience like most psychedelic experiences was hard to describe, but I had the feeling that I was inhabited by multiple demons. The main one was a doglike beast. Needless to say, it was pretty frightening. I have had mostly really good trips and some like this where I see demons. What do you think of this? Should I see a Catholic priest? Should i quit drinking or doing drugs? Is it just a hallucination? Just the alcohol? There are no wrong or right answers here. What are your thoughts?
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
#21951796 - 07/16/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Did the dog have 3 heads, dog, serpent, human?
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One head. It was huge like elephant size with an unexplainable human characteristic.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
#21951816 - 07/16/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Probably just your imagination then unless it spoke it's name to you.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
#21951827 - 07/16/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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sounds like Lord Ganesha the hindu god, remover of obstacles, could be a sign, don't get your head wrapped up in it, the hole goes deep, no one knows...
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It didn't give a name, but I have seen it now on multiple trips. The first time, i had taken ayahuasca and I was being led by someone on a path. The person leading me stopped in the path and drew a line in the dirt with a srick. He told me he could go no further. I kept going and the beast was guarding a gate with a chain on its neck. When i got close it lurched at me.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast] 1
#21951867 - 07/16/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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its your unconscious mind revealing unpleasent truths about yourself via symbolism
at least that's my 2 cents. who knows
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast] 1
#21951893 - 07/16/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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it was the mushrooms telling you to stop drinking alcohol
why mix alcohol with such a lovely substance as psilocin/psilocybin
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: Lucis]
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Fennario said: it was the mushrooms telling you to stop drinking alcohol
why mix alcohol with such a lovely substance as psilocin/psilocybin
that was my first reaction as well.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
#21951931 - 07/16/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Brains are pretty fucked up, and there's really no way to ensure that your trips stay "good" forever. 4g is alot, and getting drunk always puts a kinda ugly spin to the trip in my opinion. Sounds like a bad time to me.
Feeling like you're out of control and trapped in your body is unpleasant, but that is essentially what a bad trip is. It's sometimes indicative of internal stresses. So you can get in touch with things that are stressing you, but it can also cause stress. You don't want to compound the problem by trying to self-medicate or letting religious people brainwash you.
Don't go to a Catholic priest, what are you going to request an exorcism? Are you even Catholic?
If you're feeling endangered or like you can't function to the point where it is becoming a crisis, go to the ER. If you're just suffering from depression and anxiety, maybe get a therapist or talk to someone close to you and start looking for solutions.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21951933 - 07/16/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alcohol helps my anxiety on the come up. Most of my biggest breakthroughs have come from a mixture of alcohol and shrooms. But your point has been noted, I should stop drinking altogether.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
#21951961 - 07/16/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No I'm not Catholic. I was just throwing around ideas. I want to hear as many different takes on it as i can. I probably identify mostly with Hinduism, but the visions I have are often Christian. Probably because it gets drilled into our heads by society.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast] 2
#21951988 - 07/16/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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stratocast said: A few days ago, I drank most of the day and ate 4 grams of shrooms. My experience like most psychedelic experiences was hard to describe, but I had the feeling that I was inhabited by multiple demons. The main one was a doglike beast. Needless to say, it was pretty frightening. I have had mostly really good trips and some like this where I see demons. What do you think of this? Should I see a Catholic priest? Should i quit drinking or doing drugs? Is it just a hallucination? Just the alcohol? There are no wrong or right answers here. What are your thoughts?
Demons are quite frightening. People don't fully appreciate how frightening unless it happens to them.
Almost all demons you encounter though are LITTLE demons trying to trick you into fearing them by pure bluff.
Demons can only lead you astray by your free will. They cannot alter objective reality, only the part you voluntarily make can be influenced.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: Asante]
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stratocast said: A few days ago, I drank most of the day and ate 4 grams of shrooms. My experience like most psychedelic experiences was hard to describe, but I had the feeling that I was inhabited by multiple demons. The main one was a doglike beast. Needless to say, it was pretty frightening. I have had mostly really good trips and some like this where I see demons. What do you think of this? Should I see a Catholic priest? Should i quit drinking or doing drugs? Is it just a hallucination? Just the alcohol? There are no wrong or right answers here. What are your thoughts?
Demons are quite frightening. People don't fully appreciate how frightening unless it happens to them.
Almost all demons you encounter though are LITTLE demons trying to trick you into fearing them by pure bluff.
Demons can only lead you astray by your free will. They cannot alter objective reality, only the part you voluntarily make can be influenced.
Forgive them, but don't do as they want you.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
#21952020 - 07/16/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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stratocast said: There are no wrong or right answers here
in that case, yea it was a demon.
what happened when u saw it?,
did u look away?
were u crouched in the fetal position?..
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
#21952035 - 07/16/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anywhay I do have a solution, you're in luck. On friday at 11:11pm ecaxtly take 6.66g of mushrooms via rectal plunger, in a funeral parlor or graveyard, sitting naked inside a pentagram made of salt with red candles at every line intersection. Plunge the plunger in intervals of six, six times then yell "In the name of Jehevus I expose my self to you!" in a commanding voice also six times, and the demon should introduce itself as is the demon way and custom.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: zZZz]
#21952079 - 07/16/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just sat on a chair in a room in my basement and cursed and hated everything really. I didn' t move from my seat. I felt stuck there like it was controlling me and making me feel this way. I didnt look away, but i couldnt physically see it. I just sensed it in my mind somehow.
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moonrockmushy said: Anywhay I do have a solution, you're in luck. On friday at 11:11pm ecaxtly take 6.66g of mushrooms via rectal plunger, in a funeral parlor or graveyard, sitting naked inside a pentagram made of salt with red candles at every line intersection. Plunge the plunger in intervals of six, six times then yell "In the name of Jehevus I expose my self to you!" in a commanding voice also six times, and the demon should introduce itself as is the demon way and custom.
I should do it at 11:34. That's hell upside down.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast] 1
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Here's my demon story if you're interested. I was 15(40 now) when I took my first lsd. I had been learning about Enochian Magic and had played around with the grids and while learning latin. I never intentionally called forth any demons or wanted to for that matter. I knew of very few demons at that point anyway and jealousy is not a demon I would choose to conjujr.
Anyway... I got ahold of some really good acid(green yin/yang blotter) and took one hit. I was seeing everything made of tiny green and purple electronic snakes. I stayed over at a friend's house that night and after he went to sleep I sat up and tripped all morning. At about 3am during the peak, I heard every dog in the countryside barking and howling in unison out of the open window. A definite old world cemetery gate appeared in the room in front of me and opened up. From inside I heard a deep growling voice say "ozmodius)) or possibly "ozmodea". The cemetery gate slammed shut and all the dogs stopped howling outside at that very second. I had never heard that name before and thought nothing of it for years. Alistair Crowley was my favorite author back then and if he had never mentioned this demon in his books, then I would have never heard of him. Ten years later I picked up a book about demons at a used bookstore and saw one called Azmodeus who is the demon of jealousy. He was adopted by the catholic church from the pagan old world religions who called him Azmodea. He is depicted with 3 heads, a jackle dog thing, human, and dragon. I never told my ex-wife about him, but she had told me there was a demon around me with a jackle head. I gave her the info I knew about Azmodea and she confirmed it was him she was seeing. She had been able to see ghosts and other entities since she was 13 or 14. I think he only displays one head at a time. I had problems with jealousy in sexual relationships ever since I had this experience and never put the clues together. Apparently I can overpower him with dead fish in my home, but I think jealousy is a little more appealing. Maybe I should cover the walls of my home in fish fossils and encase rotting fish in oregomic art.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
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Even better, and just remember, in order to end the ritual without Satan capturing your soul just recite all books written by JK Rowling in chronological order aloud before stepping outside the circle, otherwise you will be playg by demens forever.
My serious advice is low-dosing though. Take care of yourself beforehand, and take small amounts of healthy drugs. You'll have less anxiety then in my opinion, and enjoy your trips more if you're not finding them to be a complete mindfuck.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
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stratocast said: I just sat on a chair in a room in my basement and cursed and hated everything really. I didn' t move from my seat. I felt stuck there like it was controlling me and making me feel this way. I didnt look away, but i couldnt physically see it. I just sensed it in my mind somehow.
well there was ur problem
u need to shake things up a bit when u feel stuck that like
for example, getting up and leaving said area,
or, using positivity to defeat these negative demons
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Passifloracaerulea, did you ever see the demon again or just the one trip? Where did you find out about the dead fish thing?
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
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Did you play any kind of music by any chance?
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I'm dealing with a negative entity right now too. I don't know how to make myself invulnerable to it, I just let it feel my unafraidness at dying or being harmed, i feel into the falsity of fear then I just be present to it without fear. it seems to lose interest in trying to engage me or send me bad vibes and thoughts.
Be cautious the lower astral is full of those motherfuckers right now, that hasn't always been the case. A lot of humans have weak auric fields and are vulnerable to them, they're energy vampires and they thrive off pain, confusion, suffering etc. That's why they are drawn to here right now.
I became rageful yesterday at it and called it a pathetic coward, I wished it would come to me when I'm in the astral plane so I can destroy it, I told it. I remember once I dealt with one who thought i was a weak, disempowered little human it could toy with in my sleep so i forced my intention on it that it would either be destroyed or be far removed from me.
Those entities are annoying as fuck either get energy work done or work on the strength of your aura and mind, eat healthy foods etc. Don't freak out too much but I'd do a little more research on what you're dealing with. Tbh its not that big of a deal. They cannot sense or be attracted to beings at a high vibration from what I understand. Apparently a lot of them are like "astral wildlife" and dont think anything more about leeching than a cow thinks about eating grass.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: saenchai]
#21952310 - 07/16/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wasn't playing any music. Saenchai, do you sense yours all the time or only on certain drugs?
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
#21952325 - 07/16/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i kinda see them all as part of a single source
wutever is the opposite of good, that's the main source
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
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stratocast said: Passifloracaerulea, did you ever see the demon again or just the one trip? Where did you find out about the dead fish thing?
My ex could see him creeping around outside and shit. I never saw him again. My unfounded constant jealousy eventually caused so many problems in our relationship that she bailed. Learned about the dead fish thing from the same book that I got the name from. It's some old world pagan thing.
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I'm aware of negative entities usually very infrequently in my life but the last few nights there is one that is trying to fuck with me bad. It came right after I had a huge emotional release and decided to face some of my challenges with grace instead of being afraid and trying to control everything. I don't think it liked how I was changing, it sent me some pretty fucked up shit. I could tell very clearly that what was appearing in my thought vibrations wasn't mine. It's been going on before sleep for the last 3 nights or so. It has either always been there draining me and pops out from underneath sometimes where I am more aware of it or its a new one that just happened upon me a few days ago. Doesn't frighten me in principle but I haven't been able to block when it sends thought forms to me. I can clearly distinguish what is mine and isn't so it doesn't affect me too much. It's just a distracting nuisance sometimes and pretty obnoxious.
Edit: if this is the one I think it is, I met it on a dmt trip a year and a half ago. It presented itsef falsely as a being of light and wisdom. I could feel it snickering underneath the image it presented to me
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: saenchai]
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"It is always recommended to smudge a room or oneself after heavy healing work or a bad argument. This is to remove any negative energy that may persist just like disinfecting a place full of germs"
http://www.dancingtoeaglespiritsociety.org/medicines.php
Cedar branches on the floor, in the tub and tea.
Sweet grass and white sage smudging.
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This whole dead fish thing kinda makes sense the only things that you could be jealous of would be the hundreds of feral cats that wanna hang at your house, and
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: flickedbic]
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I have had a few bad trips
they were pretty devilish
and they always happened when my life was shitty and it was all my fault
bad trips are the ones i learn about th e negatives ive been doing they honestly help
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: SunnyD]
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whats all this about dead fish? I dreamt of dead fish last night.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: Psilosopherr]
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I wonder if jesus got the fish thing from the pagans.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
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You and I have very different trips. I have never had that feeling or anything like it
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: zappaisgod]
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I sometimes refer to the Devil as Skeletor.

Don't get me wrong I respect the crap out of him but I try to not let him frighten me.
God and the Devil are One. The sunny side of God (lets call him JHWH or Allah) is the Creator, the shade side of him (Lets call him the Devil) is the Destroyer.
But its One Being. Its one being that encompasses everything within Itself, including Good and Evil. And YOU are one of its guises. You are travelling eternally from the most Divided, most Yin, to the most United, the most Yang. And once all of us have united as One, what does this Oneness do? Destroy everything! EVERYTHING! Take the one Most Yang and snap it into 10100000 Yins and start all over again.
At some point. First we all have communion in Being God but then we all, as one blast ourself to smittereens to play the cosmic game again and again, forever.
You do NOT want it now. You want to be in the kingdom of Heaven forever. Therein you err. You WILL BE Heaven AND God and All The Souls, as one. It will be Eternity AND it will pass. We will drink in the Ambrosia, we wash all our suffering away and then...
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: Asante]
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Forgive the Devil, he has the most thankless piece of shit job in all of Creation. Its worse than being staffer.

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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: stratocast]
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Soon your head will spin around and you will projective vomit while screaming "JESUS FUCKS ME, JESUS FUCKS ME"
See a priest.
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Re: Seeing demons on psychedelics [Re: mndfreeze]
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