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ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :)
    #21951680 - 07/16/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



Habitat:
GRassland - recently laid turf from supplier in uk

Gills:
light brown attached, quite open

Stem:
8-9cm, 1/2cm diamater, light brown, slightly hollow, thin

Cap:
3cm diamater, medium brown, conical, does that thing where water affects it (very sorry for my forgetting the correct term)

Spore print color:
medium brown/ purply


Bruising:
none

Other information:
really smelt like an active. I'm sure that's very common and don't expect it to be liek that. but smells more like a liberty cap than a button mushroom


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Re: ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :) [Re: keeno]
    #21951706 - 07/16/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Panaeolina foenisecii


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Re: ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :) [Re: keeno]
    #21951707 - 07/16/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i'd call those panaeolina foenisecii.

ooops drghosty beat me to the punch.


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Re: ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :) [Re: Silky_Johnson]
    #21952792 - 07/16/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

wicked styles! Cheers folks!

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Re: ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :) [Re: keeno]
    #21952950 - 07/16/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

btw, Erowid reports this as active... is that true?


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Re: ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :) [Re: keeno]
    #21953003 - 07/16/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nope


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Re: ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :) [Re: doctorghosty]
    #21954702 - 07/17/15 03:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I thought as much. I figured if a common little mushroom like that is active, everyone would know about it.
it's funny reading an entry in Erowid where kids have been taken into hospital tripping and parents have grabbed these mushrooms which have then been identified. I wonder if a few libs have been mixed in with them or something...

anyways, cheers again for your help :laugh:


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Re: ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :) [Re: keeno] * 1
    #21954851 - 07/17/15 05:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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it's funny reading an entry in Erowid where kids have been taken into hospital tripping and parents have grabbed these mushrooms which have then been identified. I wonder if a few libs have been mixed in with them or something...





Erowid is limited in relevant and scientifically correct information concerning mushrooms. The story mentioned seems to
be repeated every now and then, but there is no confident source of information stating that the identification to species
in said case was ever correct. It could very well have been misidentified active Panaeolus sp., such as P. cinctulus.


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Re: ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :) [Re: Anglerfish]
    #21954911 - 07/17/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I love erowid
if you have a moment or two spare, I heartily recommend reading the Datura Train wreck style Experiences

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some really really fucked up stories of trips (mainly to the hospital)
and lots of phantom smoking cigarettes, which is odd

https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Datura_Train_Wrecks_Trip_Disasters.shtml


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Re: ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :) [Re: keeno]
    #21954933 - 07/17/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

keeno said:
I love erowid
if you have a moment or two spare, I heartily recommend reading the Datura Train wreck style Experiences

:jackiechanofapproval:

some really really fucked up stories of trips (mainly to the hospital)
and lots of phantom smoking cigarettes, which is odd

https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Datura_Train_Wrecks_Trip_Disasters.shtml




Yeah, Erowid is good entertainment but not exactly a science hub.


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Re: ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :) [Re: Anglerfish]
    #21955487 - 07/17/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

what do you prefer?

I'd say it's brilliant for that sort of stuff. people's personal experiences are rarely 'science'
but there's lots of good information linked to each substance...


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Re: ID for small brown mushroom please (a challenge :) [Re: keeno]
    #21955539 - 07/17/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Stamets mentions similar anecdotes in his book, his theory is that any supposed "accidental hallucinogen poisonings" from foenisecii were probably mistakenly identified subbs or lib caps. If the subbs were growing among the foes, the parents likely wouldn't have the knowledge to distinguish the foes from the subbs. They bring in a handful of foes, tell the doctor that their kid ate them and started tripping, all of a sudden you have reports of psychedelic Pan foes.

Also, the field guide that I regularly use (Falcon's North American Mushrooms by Dr. Orson K. Miller) lumps all of the psychoactive Panaeolus species under the name "foenisecii", so it's likely that other field guides do the same. This probably contributes to the confusion.


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