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rolear8
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What do you think?
#21951190 - 07/16/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi all
This is my first time ever doing this, i red a lot and now its time for me to apply the theory learned (if any lol), all looks fine, temperature (~24 to 28 C) i set up a heater in the middle to speed up the growht (without it i have around 20 C), the moist test looks fine, i got lots of condensation (using a similar sustrate as perlite) , and so far no contaminations, but we will see. If you see that i can improve anything let me know. I will use natural daylight when the time comes to fruiting (in my house i have some eat lighters, they are like glass in the ceiling), the verm bag is almost ready i would say (i inoculate it first 3 weeks earlier than the jars), it took 4 weeks to be like that, do you think its time to dump and roll? or maybe give it few days more?
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Re: What do you think? [Re: rolear8]
#21951309 - 07/16/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Remove the jars from the tub, and remove the foil from the jars.
The cakes go in the tub after full colonization, and the tubs gets filled with perlite, not verm/gravel.
You also need holes drilled in the tub....follow a tek.
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Re: What do you think? [Re: PussyFart]
#21951406 - 07/16/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is tht whole bag just plain vermiculite?
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Listen to pussy fart. Also, those jars are not fully colonized so do not dunk and roll yet. Your fruiting chamber should have 1/4" holes drilled every 2" on all 6 sides of the tub to allow for proper fresh air exchange (which is the main trigger for fruiting). This is called the shotgun fruiting chamber. Other than that everything looks healthy. You will want to wait until your jars are 100% white and then wait another week for the mycellium to consolidate. Then you wash the cakes in running water dunk and roll.
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rolear8
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Re: What do you think? [Re: PussyFart]
#21951528 - 07/16/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have the jars in the tub, because i cover the hole tub with a black bag until full colonization, the tub is not filled with verm, is another mineral like perlite, but i could not find perlite but serves the same propose (humidify terrarium)
I have 3 holes in the larges sides, and 2 on the small sides of the tub.
My concern is with the bag, i think is ready to dunk and roll
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rolear8
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Fantastic Mr. Fox said:

Is tht whole bag just plain vermiculite?
Yes the bag is pure verm, and the jars has a mix of verm, integral rice. And 3 of the i added bee polen
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Re: What do you think? [Re: rolear8]
#21951592 - 07/16/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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it doesnt matter why you think its a good idea to keep jars in there, its a terrible idea you'll get your filters wet and grow nothing but nasty.
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rolear8
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Yes make sense, i will remove them and find another dark, dry place, thanks for the input, what do you think of the verm bag? give more days or time to dunk and roll?
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Re: What do you think? [Re: rolear8]
#21951668 - 07/16/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I cant understand why you'd want one or what to do with a brf\verm bag  I'd spawn it but its probably not all healthy..
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Re: What do you think? [Re: rolear8]
#21951678 - 07/16/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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rolear8 said: Yes make sense, i will remove them and find another dark, dry place, thanks for the input, what do you think of the verm bag? give more days or time to dunk and roll?
What the hell is going on here. Listen to PussyFart. Follow a tek. Are you asking if you should dunk a bag of Vermiculite in water and then more Vermiculite?
Put the brakes on. Do some reading.
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rolear8
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spacechildo said: I cant understand why you'd want one or what to do with a brf\verm bag  I'd spawn it but its probably not all healthy..
I ment this, i think is fully colonized, so im thinking to dunk and roll, or just dunk not sure.
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Re: What do you think? [Re: rolear8]
#21951998 - 07/16/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think you should start with the pf tek follow it word for word and you will get fruits. If you are worried about incubation Temps you can build an incubator I use two plastic tubs and a fish tank heater that maintains 78 +/-2 degrees.
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that bag looks fully colonized. However, dunking and rolling is Usually for cakes of colonized substrate. For spawn bags you typically mix with a bulk substrate or case with 50/50 either in treys or a monotub. You will need a trey and some pastured casing/bulk substrate. Why are you reluctant to try the shotgun fruiting chamber? The type you have is based on older info and has been improved upon. Just add more holes to yours on all six sides.
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rolear8
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Thunderbird310 said: that bag looks fully colonized. However, dunking and rolling is Usually for cakes of colonized substrate. For spawn bags you typically mix with a bulk substrate or case with 50/50 either in treys or a monotub. You will need a trey and some pastured casing/bulk substrate. Why are you reluctant to try the shotgun fruiting chamber? The type you have is based on older info and has been improved upon. Just add more holes to yours on all six sides.
Thanks, for your replay, i will make more holes (even when i have a little air pump) i also think is fully colonized, yes the best idea is to casing, but i was trying the below old method, but cutting in half the block to have more surface
http://www.shroomery.org/11388/PF-Block-Tek
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Re: What do you think? [Re: rolear8]
#21955708 - 07/17/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Perhaps I was confused. I thought that was a bag of colonized grain but after looking at the tek it seems it is grain flour and verm. In that case you may want to follow the tek as I have not really heard about using that as spawn. Either way you can let it consolidate for about a week.
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rolear8
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Thunderbird310 said: Perhaps I was confused. I thought that was a bag of colonized grain but after looking at the tek it seems it is grain flour and verm. In that case you may want to follow the tek as I have not really heard about using that as spawn. Either way you can let it consolidate for about a week.
Good you got me, i think is already consolidated too), yesterday it left it dunked, and today i will expose it to fruit conditions, will see in some weeks what i get.Thanks.
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Re: What do you think? [Re: rolear8]
#21956400 - 07/17/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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rolear8 said:
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Fantastic Mr. Fox said:

Is tht whole bag just plain vermiculite?
Yes the bag is pure verm, and the jars has a mix of verm, integral rice. And 3 of the i added bee polen 
So there are no nutrients in the bag? Just verm? How did it colonize?
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rolear8
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Re: What do you think? [Re: OPB]
#21956612 - 07/17/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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OPB said:
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rolear8 said:
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Fantastic Mr. Fox said:

Is tht whole bag just plain vermiculite?
Yes the bag is pure verm, and the jars has a mix of verm, integral rice. And 3 of the i added bee polen 
So there are no nutrients in the bag? Just verm? How did it colonize?
Well it had pretty much nothing of brown rise where i made the mix before for the jars, the left overs when i was humidifying the vermiculite in the same container seems enough.
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rolear8 said: Yes make sense, i will remove them and find another dark, dry place, thanks for the input, what do you think of the verm bag? give more days or time to dunk and roll?
What the hell is going on here. Listen to PussyFart. Follow a tek. Are you asking if you should dunk a bag of Vermiculite in water and then more Vermiculite?
Put the brakes on. Do some reading.
LOL! This thread 
How's it coming along, op? Keep us updated
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