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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: koraks]
    #21951667 - 07/16/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Why isn't your functioning mind ever capable of thinking for itself?


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21951670 - 07/16/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've seen your posts.

Thinking you have a functioning mind is far more cute.

Actually delusions aren't cute so I take that back. Sorry about your condition bud.



You like the ad hominem argumentation style, don't you? Come back when you can properly discuss a topic based on its contents.


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21951674 - 07/16/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Psychonautica said:
Why isn't your functioning mind ever capable of thinking for itself?



Brah i'll fk you up if you diss on Koraks :crankey:
m8
U STONED APE :stoned:


Edited by Beanhead (07/16/15 11:53 AM)


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Beanhead] * 1
    #21951679 - 07/16/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't believe in the stoned ape theory I've just seen koraks agree with the masses in every single thread.


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: twelvelookslikeu] * 1
    #21951687 - 07/16/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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twelvelookslikeu said:
Like I mentioned earlier its very possible cave art was personal recollection of a trip.







Those look like the aimless doodles my mom used to make when talking on the phone. Nothing about that seems inherent to psychedelics.


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21951692 - 07/16/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't believe in the stoned ape theory I've just seen koraks agree with the masses in every single thread.



Please tell me more about the homogeneous masses. I'd love to hear about your views on the unified truth, as I'm utterly incapable of independent thinking.


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Beanhead]
    #21951699 - 07/16/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Does anyone think humans could conceive of a higher power without psychedelics?


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Does]
    #21951704 - 07/16/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Is that a serious question?


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Does] * 1
    #21951711 - 07/16/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.lycaeum.org/~sputnik/McKenna/Evolution/
Still a better (more plausible) story than


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: drege]
    #21951715 - 07/16/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

so no one thinks there was even the slightest possibility that psilocybin played a small role in our evolution? I personally don't like Terrence mekkena but I just find this one thought to be interesting
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http://www.lycaeum.org/~sputnik/McKenna/Evolution/
Still a better (more plausible) story than




And no


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #21951725 - 07/16/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I did. It's just not the spark that started everything. You can't pinpoint everything to one chemical.
All chemicals had a play. From the grass one ate to the fruits one picked. The flesh consumed to the sand inbetween teeth.


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Beanhead]
    #21951730 - 07/16/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:raisemyglass: I agree


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: koods]
    #21951732 - 07/16/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
Is that a serious question?



People take it for granted
A primitive being with only survival on its mind is not going to conceive of a higher power in my opinion
Maybe the sharing of this knowledge led to larger groups ushering in a new stage of human history


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: drege] * 1
    #21951734 - 07/16/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: drege]
    #21951739 - 07/16/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe they're not mushrooms and people really really liked dicks.

Look at how many school age kids draw dicks on stuff now a days.  Has anything really changed?


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: drege] * 1
    #21951757 - 07/16/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Touche





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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
    #21951759 - 07/16/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Except that they look more like mushrooms.


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21951767 - 07/16/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There's a pretty hefty and long history of psychedelic use in the early Americas, but I doubt it created any evolutionary pressure. I'd believe that psychedelics were involved in cultural evolution to some extent, but not in  our recent (past hundred thousand years or so) biological evolution. Maybe the accidental use of certain drugs like alcohol helped us evolve better ways to metabolize drugs so we could be less dysfunction from their use, but past that I'm not seeing any biological evolutionary pressure. A monkey that eats shrooms would not be drawing on a wall. It would make weird sounds, stare off into space for a while, and probably try to sleep. That makes the animal more likely to die, and evolution, if it had any significant role here, would select animals that were resistant to those effects. Even today most people can't handle psychedelics. They panic and get traumatized under their effect. Why would dumber more ape-like people get more value out of psychs than we do when they have less capability to handle them productively?

There are more plausible guesses as to how we became able to draw and think abstractly and such. Psychs are only valuable when you've got the capabilities to handle them. Otherwise they're poisonous.



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Maybe they're not mushrooms and people really really liked dicks.

Look at how many school age kids draw dicks on stuff now a days.  Has anything really changed?




I think those are mushrooms, but dicks were a way bigger deal in art and have been all throughout recorded history. Maybe the dick love was an evolutionary effect created by eating shrooms. It would help explain why shrooms make you gay.


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: 1234go]
    #21951768 - 07/16/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So there's a super accessible food that just grows out of the ground and you think our ancestors never ate them? There's already been well documented cases of tribes using psychedelics so why couldn't have it gone back to where our evolution started?


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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #21951782 - 07/16/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So there's a super accessible food that just grows out of the ground and you think our ancestors never ate them?





Where, and how did you draw that conclusion from anything I've said in here?


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