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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Does]
#21951278 - 07/16/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Complete bunk. A theory without any evidence whatsoever is religion.
It's just an idea that a flaky drug user thought up to make his hobby sound more legitimate.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: koods] 1
#21951334 - 07/16/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Also, how could you possibly deduce anything about that time period. It's like blindly throwing a dart at a dart board if you ask me.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#21951345 - 07/16/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This data is discussed in great detail in Food of the Gods, however I lent my copy out so am unable to cite. I am not too dead set to stand by this, we all know Mckenna spoke out of his ass at times, but I will dig for the info alil later-
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
#21951359 - 07/16/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Also, how could you possibly deduce anything about that time period. It's like blindly throwing a dart at a dart board if you ask me.
Absence of evidence is certainly reason why a theory should be dismissed out of hand.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: koods]
#21951475 - 07/16/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Also, how could you possibly deduce anything about that time period. It's like blindly throwing a dart at a dart board if you ask me.
Absence of evidence is certainly reason why a theory should be dismissed out of hand.
We would still be in caves if every human used that logic Where was evidence of the nucleur bomb 200 years ago?
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: koods] 1
#21951484 - 07/16/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So the many people falsely imprisoned because their wasn't enough evidence to clear them should just stay because there's no evidence?
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: 1234go]
#21951486 - 07/16/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Plausible.
But Terrance McKenna is a fucking whack job and has been outed as a fake by his own brother.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Psychonautica]
#21951494 - 07/16/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mean a "Fake" is a far cry from what he was. I'll agree its kinda fucked up to tell people to take heroic doses when you yourself don't adhere to that paradigm. Then again I think he was trying to forward human consciousness. To that end I can kind of understand why he would stand behind his earlier nature.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Psychonautica] 1
#21951496 - 07/16/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah i'm well aware he's got an agenda, i certainly don't put him on a pedestal.
He's just got some interesting ideas.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: 1234go]
#21951501 - 07/16/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ridiculous. Has been discussed before and I provided an argumentation back then. I don't feel like looking it up so I'll give the short version: delusional crack pot theory lacking Any credible evidence nor a plausible argument.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: koraks]
#21951518 - 07/16/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think anyone's trying to push it as fact just exploring the possibility
it's undeniable psychedelics have had a great impact on humans, the exact extent we will never know
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: koraks] 1
#21951521 - 07/16/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: 1234go]
#21951533 - 07/16/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm exploring the possibility it was indeed the theory of a stoned ape.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Does]
#21951535 - 07/16/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Also, how could you possibly deduce anything about that time period. It's like blindly throwing a dart at a dart board if you ask me.
Absence of evidence is certainly reason why a theory should be dismissed out of hand.
We would still be in caves if every human used that logic Where was evidence of the nucleur bomb 200 years ago?
No there wasn't. And nobody was theorizing about them either.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: Does]
#21951538 - 07/16/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im just curious how one even came across the mushrooms in the first place
by that I don't mean where they found them at. What I mean is, who in their right mind would go walking down a prairie or whatever and would look down at some cow sh*t and see a mushroom growing out of it and think to themselves, "I think I'll eat that"
Not only would you have to eat that one which as well know tastes gruesome as all hell, but you'd have to keep on eating and eating until you had enough in you to actually trip in the first place
so with that said, it blows my mind at the very first ape to actually try this
he must have just had a really bad day or something and said fuk it you know those purple looking things growing out of that wilderbeast sh*t over there, yah im gonna eat that sh*t till i puke fuk it how much worse could life get.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: koraks] 1
#21951545 - 07/16/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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cool man
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: cube talk]
#21951546 - 07/16/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Funny you should say that. One of the first well-documented accounts in the western world of psychedelic mushrooms being consumed (ps. semilanceata in this case) was of a British young lad who munched a handful of liberty caps and tripped balls. He suspected they were regular edible mushrooms and was wrong. Pretty likely some caveman made the same mistake. And another couple of hundreds did the same thing over the centuries. Nothing mysterious about that.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: 1234go]
#21951548 - 07/16/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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1234go said: So the many people falsely imprisoned because their wasn't enough evidence to clear them should just stay because there's no evidence? 
What. There was evidence to put them in jail. It may have been bad evidence, but people aren't randomly put in jail without it. And yes, someone who has been convicted is going to stay there until some evidence shows they shouldn't be there.
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: koods]
#21951564 - 07/16/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This whole thread is 
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Re: What do you guys think of the stoned ape theory? [Re: koods]
#21951571 - 07/16/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Also, how could you possibly deduce anything about that time period. It's like blindly throwing a dart at a dart board if you ask me.
Absence of evidence is certainly reason why a theory should be dismissed out of hand.
We would still be in caves if every human used that logic Where was evidence of the nucleur bomb 200 years ago?
No there wasn't. And nobody was theorizing about them either.
tesla described smartphones to the tee
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