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Can you grow different mushroom species in the same jar?
#21950389 - 07/16/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't mean different strains - I mean completely different species. Do mushroom mycelium have any ability to kill competing mushroom species? Obviously they would both compete for resources, but I'm asking if mushroom species A would eliminate mushroom species B directly, not through indirect means (out competing).
I typically work outside every few days for a neighbor, and he has a lot of mushrooms in his yard. I never directly touch them if possible, but I'm guessing their spores are littered throughout his property, and some inevitably get on my clothing. As irrational as it is to worry about, I can't help but worry that a spore or two from something like a Destroying Angel could potentially get into my jars (which are only just starting to colonize). [not like I couldn't just ID it if that happened, but anyway, I digress]
But besides my irrational fear, I actually am very curious as to the biology of how mushrooms interact with each other. I was unable to find any question/answer to this through Google.
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Re: Can you grow different mushroom species in the same jar? [Re: Mad Season]
#21952082 - 07/16/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: I'm pretty sure he's asking about 2 species, not strains in the same species. Unfortunately it's way too vague to tell you. Some species depend on others to germinate and grow over them, whereas others can live in harmony side by side.
Generally speaking though, cubensis will take over other species if it has the upper hand. However unless you opened the jars in open air or waved your arms around over open jars, you got nothing to worry about.
>opened the jars in open air I actually did do this for a few jars. You see, my whole brown rice jars were extremely slow to germinate; so slow I thought the spores were defective. So I lifted my aluminum foil lids off slightly (in hindsight I should have definitely gotten tyvek or something similar to that) and within a few days I had germination.
With a few of the jars, I completely lifted the lids off. But with 5 or so other ones, I took the lid off and replaced it with a coffee filter right away. Guess I'll just have to see.
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Re: Can you grow different mushroom species in the same jar? [Re: Sadburner]
#21952586 - 07/16/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Are you sure it was germination of your cube spores and not some mold that got in when you opened them.
Allow me to clarify. I had my jars completely covered in tin foil with no gas exchange. I then loosened the tin foil lids on 3 jars so that air could get in through the 5 holes I made in the top of the metal Mason jar lid.
I did the same with 7 other jars, except instead of loosening the tin foil, I removed the tin foil and quickly put on a coffee filter as a lid.
Then a day or two later white fuzzy growth started forming about 1-2 inches down in the jars, near each side of the container where I injected spores. It's possible they are contaminants, but I find it unlikely when it coincides so specifically with where I inoculated the jars.
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Let me know if your jars start fruiting Destroying Angels. 
Shall do. Stranger things have happened...
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Re: Can you grow different mushroom species in the same jar? [Re: MudaFuka]
#21953034 - 07/16/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: something that hasn't even germinated yet dont need ge it doesnt make gases yet..
Still, the fact that a few days after I lifted the lid off lead to germination, while other jars didn't germinate until I did the same several days later makes me think it was GE that did it.
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MudaFuka said: If germination started in 5h3 middle of the jar you are probably OK. FYI coffee filters do next to nothing to protect your jars frome mold and bacteria. The pours are much to large to be used as a filter.
But how are you supposed to know if it's growing in the middle when you can't see it, eh? I'm just going to have to hope my still air box keeps things sterile and that I don't lose any more jars.
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Re: Can you grow different mushroom species in the same jar? [Re: MudaFuka]
#21953493 - 07/16/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: When I said middle I was referring to the inoculation site on the side. Not the center. If your growth started on top after opening them you can be pretty sure it's contam.
I see what you mean. With one of them it's hard to tell. Something that is white and fuzzy and looks like mycelium growth is growing on the top of the rice, but it's isolated in the center of the jar where I injected. Guess I'll just have to wait and see if it's a contam or not.
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