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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
#21957301 - 07/17/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: You know, when I go back and reread that, it almost sounds as if I was pissed when I wrote that..
I still like you too man.

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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: zappaisgod]
#21957517 - 07/17/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think they should get one nickel of tax money. Charity and fee for service. Not a single government nickel.
0 cents of taxpayer money go towards abortion. What taxpayer money goes to is things such as STD testing or other preventative healthcare services. None of it goes towards abortions. Hence why patients have to pay like $500 out-of-pocket or whatever the industry standard cost is for an abortion nowadays.
Personally I think abortions should be provided free and reimbursed by taxes, that way we would have a lot less unwanted children, less crime, less poverty, less people on welfare, etc.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Magicman69]
#21957529 - 07/17/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Magicman69 said: A 17 week old baby is formed and can respond to changes in its environment. It's not just some clump of cells. I personally think the cutoff should be 8 weeks for abortion. At a certain point your not aborting a fetus anymore, your murdering a tiny vulnerable person.
8 weeks? Way too early. A lot of women don't even realize they are pregnant until the 6-8 week mark. That would simply make it almost impossible for many women to acquire very needed abortions.
Plus, the cerebral cortex isn't even intact at 8 weeks. The fetus isn't even cognizant or conscious.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21957541 - 07/17/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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I don't think they should get one nickel of tax money. Charity and fee for service. Not a single government nickel.
0 cents of taxpayer money go towards abortion. What taxpayer money goes to is things such as STD testing or other preventative healthcare services. None of it goes towards abortions. Hence why patients have to pay like $500 out-of-pocket or whatever the industry standard cost is for an abortion nowadays.
Personally I think abortions should be provided free and reimbursed by taxes, that way we would have a lot less unwanted children, less crime, etc.
Dollars are fungible. If you want to fund them go ahead. Kill all the fetuses you want. I note that it isn't your fucking money you are spending.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21957554 - 07/17/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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Magicman69 said: A 17 week old baby is formed and can respond to changes in its environment. It's not just some clump of cells. I personally think the cutoff should be 8 weeks for abortion. At a certain point your not aborting a fetus anymore, your murdering a tiny vulnerable person.
8 weeks? Way too early. A lot of women don't even realize they are pregnant until the 6-8 week mark. That would simply make it almost impossible for many women to acquire very needed abortions.
Plus, the cerebral cortex isn't even intact at 8 weeks. The fetus isn't even cognizant or conscious.
thats complete bullshit, in the tv show vikings ragnar lothbrok had sex with princess aslaug and she knew the next day that she was pregnaunt, and she also knew it would be a boy with a serpent in his eye and now your trying to tell me it takes 8 weeks
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21957596 - 07/17/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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And that's why your point of view doesnt matter and has no need to be taken into consideration. Fuck if Im paying for your worthless "wild" life.. why not go back where 'ya came from'.. huh? It couldnt be because your people made your life suck so your daddy jumped continents and dropped an anchor, anything to get away from his people, and now you are comfortable repeating the same mistakes infecting this continent with the same garbage your parents were running from, crying about why your own fucking parents cant stand you...
Nothing like that right?....
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G] 1
#21957643 - 07/17/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah feel free to speak up when you're ready because I have a brake job that needs you paying for it because I'm too goddamn dumb to plan ahead so its up to you... save me..
Oh and dont forget Ill stand here and tell you to your fucking face how brakes can be neglected all day long... ha ha..
Nobody needs brakes...ha ha..
Your logic is shit.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
#21957673 - 07/17/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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^^Are you posting under the influence again? Seems like it, cause you're not making any sense again.
Please explain to me how you're paying for my life. You're not. I owe you nothing except maybe a broken jaw.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21957677 - 07/17/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm making perfect sense.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21957690 - 07/17/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: ^^Are you posting under the influence again? Seems like it, cause you're not making any sense again.
Please explain to me how you're paying for my life. You're not. I owe you nothing except maybe a broken jaw.
Darling, do you have a job and are you paying taxes? Because if you don't and aren't everybody who is is paying for you. Will you please get your shit together. You could do so much.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21957696 - 07/17/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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curious question, if these parts sales starts to become a big thing and people really do start getting paid to donate fetus's by having abortions ect ect, how would u feel if the fetus's father got half the money?
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21957703 - 07/17/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ohh, I missed that ninja edit with the broken jaw...
Id like to see you try. Ive never fought a midget before but I'm sure the same rules apply..
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: zappaisgod]
#21957710 - 07/17/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: ^^Are you posting under the influence again? Seems like it, cause you're not making any sense again.
Please explain to me how you're paying for my life. You're not. I owe you nothing except maybe a broken jaw.
Darling, do you have a job and are you paying taxes? Because if you don't and aren't everybody who is is paying for you. Will you please get your shit together. You could do so much.
I called you and told you about my new job, I am paying taxes.
Also, even IF somebody is unemployed, the only time everybody else is paying for them is if they are on government benefits, such as EBT. Which I have never been.
The only taxpayer financial assistance I have ever received was college tuition grants back when I was going to school. I have never been on food stamps, social security, disability, or whatever.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21957717 - 07/17/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: curious question, if these parts sales starts to become a big thing and people really do start getting paid to donate fetus's by having abortions ect ect, how would u feel if the fetus's father got half the money?
Oh you are so evil. How about legalizing people selling their organs? Slopes and slipperiness. Good time, good times.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21957733 - 07/17/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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Crystal G said: ^^Are you posting under the influence again? Seems like it, cause you're not making any sense again.
Please explain to me how you're paying for my life. You're not. I owe you nothing except maybe a broken jaw.
Darling, do you have a job and are you paying taxes? Because if you don't and aren't everybody who is is paying for you. Will you please get your shit together. You could do so much.
I called you and told you about my new job, I am paying taxes.
Also, even IF somebody is unemployed, the only time everybody else is paying for them is if they are on government benefits, such as EBT. Which I have never been.
The only taxpayer financial assistance I have ever received was college tuition grants back when I was going to school. I have never been on food stamps, social security, disability, or whatever.
Unless you are in the top quintile of taxpayers you are being subsidized.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21957737 - 07/17/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: curious question, if these parts sales starts to become a big thing and people really do start getting paid to donate fetus's by having abortions ect ect, how would u feel if the fetus's father got half the money?
Wouldn't make any sense to do that. First of all, how would the man even prove that he is the real father of the baby?
Second of all, it wouldn't be fair. I say this because single or unmarried women who are pregnant receive 100% of the medical bills in their name. So, let's say single woman gets pregnant by boyfriend, they break up, and she has a miscarriage that costs her $4,000 or whatever in the hospital. She cannot even legally sue the man, or come after the real father for half the cost of the pregnancy. Because unless you have a paternity test done while pregnant, or unless you have him sign papers agreeing to pay for half the cost of the pregnancy, you cannot prove that he is the real father.
The only justifiable reason I could see the father getting half is if the couple is married legally and getting an abortion.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21957743 - 07/17/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The proceeds aren't enough to justify the expense of a paternity test
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21957768 - 07/17/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: curious question, if these parts sales starts to become a big thing and people really do start getting paid to donate fetus's by having abortions ect ect, how would u feel if the fetus's father got half the money?
Wouldn't make any sense to do that. First of all, how would the man even prove that he is the real father of the baby?
Second of all, it wouldn't be fair. I say this because single or unmarried women who are pregnant receive 100% of the medical bills in their name. So, let's say single woman gets pregnant by boyfriend, they break up, and she has a miscarriage that costs her $4,000 or whatever in the hospital. She cannot even legally sue the man, or come after the real father for half the cost of the pregnancy. Because unless you have a paternity test done while pregnant, or unless you have him sign papers agreeing to pay for half the cost of the pregnancy, you cannot prove that he is the real father.
The only justifiable reason I could see the father getting half is if the couple is married legally and getting an abortion.
so do you feel the same way about women who don't have an abortion while single, then force a man to get a paternity test, and them force him to pay child support? and by feel the same way, im refering to the man not being accountable for all of that
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21957781 - 07/17/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: so do you feel the same way about women who don't have an abortion while single, then force a man to get a paternity test, and them force him to pay child support? and by feel the same way, im refering to the man not being accountable for all of that
Uhhhh no. Child support is for the CHILD. If the father doesn't pay anything, then that kid is either going to go hungry, or the rest of the taxpayers will be paying for that kid. Parents should be responsible for their own kids once they are born. Period.
Besides, in many cases, the amount of child support one pays is nowhere near enough to sustain a child. According to the NY Times, the average amount of child support paid per month by the average man (or woman) is around $327 a month. I've seen 17 year old kids pay as little as $70 a month of child support, simply because their income was too low. That's not even enough to buy a month's supply of diapers.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21957808 - 07/17/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The child support I paid was pretty much exactly the cost of raising a child from the year she was born. The total cost. We looked it up because her mother was being a cunt, as usual, and telling my daughter I didn't give her enough money. She had a decent income herself she was just greedy.
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