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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86] 1
#21955220 - 07/17/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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And to the dumbfucks comparing harvesting aborted organs vs. organ donors..
Do you really believe that stupid fucking bullshit logic? Are you that fucking dumb? "Well yeah the fetus starts off alive but by the end it's dead".... Really? I'm surprised you can tie your own shoes..
How about get your fucking in check.. selfish bitches.
Alright fuck it you got me started...why stop now. I hate to name drop in my rant but, go check out ChickGrow's new baby... go take a look, I'll wait...
You can't inconvienience your life for a few months so that kid can have a life? You can't wait and then go through an adoption process if you really dont want a kid? You just fucking kill it....that's it, just kill it... so you can get back to fuckin'
You dumb heartless mother fuckers need to grow a soul..
You know what they say, pro abortion folks are a bunch of one way, onesided assholes, because they all survived birth... bunch of easy road taking bitches... fuck'em all
/end rant that'll conviently go in one ear and out the other..
I'm sure I'll win a few friends with this post.. had to be said.
Edited by Amanita86 (07/17/15 09:03 AM)
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
#21955535 - 07/17/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I want to ignore you but I can't help myself. It's like when there's a horrible car wreck or pileup and you don't want to see the people burned alive, but you can't avert your eyes.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
#21955598 - 07/17/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: And to the dumbfucks comparing harvesting aborted organs vs. organ donors..
Do you really believe that stupid fucking bullshit logic? Are you that fucking dumb? "Well yeah the fetus starts off alive but by the end it's dead".... Really? I'm surprised you can tie your own shoes..
How about get your fucking in check.. selfish bitches.
Alright fuck it you got me started...why stop now. I hate to name drop in my rant but, go check out ChickGrow's new baby... go take a look, I'll wait...
You can't inconvienience your life for a few months so that kid can have a life? You can't wait and then go through an adoption process if you really dont want a kid? You just fucking kill it....that's it, just kill it... so you can get back to fuckin'
You dumb heartless mother fuckers need to grow a soul..
You know what they say, pro abortion folks are a bunch of one way, onesided assholes, because they all survived birth... bunch of easy road taking bitches... fuck'em all
/end rant that'll conviently go in one ear and out the other..
I'm sure I'll win a few friends with this post.. had to be said.
That's the standard thoughtless dribble that antiabortion people spew out when they can't handle the emotional impact of killing a fetus. If you really stopped to think about what you posted, you'd realize that it's judgmental horseshit that doesn't help anybody. People die in the world all the time. Kids die, and unwanted fetuses die too. Get over it. You probably don't realize it, but what you posted was a selfish indulgence in your own hangups. If more people indulged like you did, then we'd all suffer more, and that includes the kids.
Doing research with those fetus parts may very well improve or save the lives of children that actually get to be born into homes where they have competent supportive parents. It's arguably even more meaningful than organ donor transplants. A transplant only saves one life. Learning more about how we work from studying our early development has the potential to do a lot more good than that. The women who let their babies be studied are far from selfish. They're actually helping to make the world a better place to live, and that deserves to be rewarded with gratitude and respect, not a hissyfit.
I still like you though.
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Horseshit..
So if I put a bullet through your face, we could divvy up your parts and end up saving more lives than if we kept you intact, taking up space on this earth... that's your logic?
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You know, when I go back and reread that, it almost sounds as if I was pissed when I wrote that..
I still like you too man.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86] 1
#21955781 - 07/17/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Horseshit..
So if I put a bullet through your face, we could divvy up your parts and end up saving more lives than if we kept you intact, taking up space on this earth... that's your logic?
Seems like a profitable busiess
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
#21956050 - 07/17/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Horseshit..
So if I put a bullet through your face, we could divvy up your parts and end up saving more lives than if we kept you intact, taking up space on this earth... that's your logic?
Sort of. If you look at the options, you've got a dead baby that could be used and a dead baby that goes to waste. I'm not pushing for more abortions or anything, but the fact that babies body parts are used for research shouldn't dissuade people from making decisions that they think are good. This should be thought of as a benefit rather than a reason not to do abortions.
The whole argument against abortion seems to be purely emotional (I've never heard a clear objective reason stated for why it's bad). Those heavy emotional topics are some of the most dangerous ones to resolve because they tend not to be resolved by reason. It hard to show which side is right on on the abortion argument, but when I look around the world for suffering and fucked up lives, I see a lot of dysfunctional teenage moms and neglected kids where I live. Those kids would have had better lives if they had come into existence later in the mom's life. The girls who get abortions tend to graduate high school and lots of them go to college or have kids later in life when they're more capable parents. Maybe killing those kids before they were born stopped some good from happening, but it damn sure stopped some suffering from happening, and it's dangerous to lose sight of that.
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Amanita86 said: You know, when I go back and reread that, it almost sounds as if I was pissed when I wrote that..
I still like you too man.
It's emotional stuff. People get angry and ideally they figure out how to not feel bad and make good decisions at the same time. As long as we're not starting silly long-term feuds, then we're cool. I'll gladly entertain a scenario where I get shot in the face if it's productive. It's kind of fun somehow.
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Mr.GuessWork said: The whole argument against abortion seems to be purely emotional (I've never heard a clear objective reason stated for why it's bad). Those heavy emotional topics are some of the most dangerous ones to resolve because they tend not to be resolved by reason. It hard to show which side is right on on the abortion argument
You shouldn't need a 'clear objective reason', you should be able too look and immediately tell..
As for your second argument with the parents, that's a flaw of our society.. Correct the flaw, don't kill the kid.. like I said selfish convenience. I'm guessing you don't hang around kids much..? I don't know, maybe you run a daycare, it really doesn't matter. There's no justification for killing a kid that young. You don't need a reason spelled out, you should inherently know.. or so it would seem to me.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86] 1
#21956243 - 07/17/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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A 17 week old baby is formed and can respond to changes in its environment. It's not just some clump of cells. I personally think the cutoff should be 8 weeks for abortion. At a certain point your not aborting a fetus anymore, your murdering a tiny vulnerable person.
Edited by Magicman69 (07/17/15 01:50 PM)
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
#21956305 - 07/17/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Horseshit..
So if I put a bullet through your face, we could divvy up your parts and end up saving more lives than if we kept you intact, taking up space on this earth... that's your logic?
Actually, yes. This is the most basic premise of science. You do a controlled experiment, and apply the results to the population at large.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
#21956321 - 07/17/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mr.GuessWork said: The whole argument against abortion seems to be purely emotional (I've never heard a clear objective reason stated for why it's bad). Those heavy emotional topics are some of the most dangerous ones to resolve because they tend not to be resolved by reason. It hard to show which side is right on on the abortion argument
You shouldn't need a 'clear objective reason', you should be able too look and immediately tell..
As for your second argument with the parents, that's a flaw of our society.. Correct the flaw, don't kill the kid.. like I said selfish convenience. I'm guessing you don't hang around kids much..? I don't know, maybe you run a daycare, it really doesn't matter. There's no justification for killing a kid that young. You don't need a reason spelled out, you should inherently know.. or so it would seem to me.
The trouble with that argument is that it artificially forces people into bad situations they can't handle just because they make stupid decisions. It's exactly these kind of scenarios that need a "clear objective reason' because without one people get absorbed in the arguing and stop paying attention to what the real consequences of the decisions are. Correcting the flaw in society isn't going to happen, and it especially isn't going to happen when we force idiots to have kids. We need a solution that will make the problem better, and it needs to be practical enough to work.
I've been around plenty of kids and pregnant people for various reasons. I've also dissected animal fetuses and have been around pregnant animals and baby animals, and I can tell you that fetuses are not the same as babies. It's important not to get confused by vague pictures and stuff like that. You could easily cry your eyes out when you look at a pig fetus because it looks almost exactly like a human fetus for the earlier part of its development (certainly up until the legal deadline for abortions). A lot of this sentimentality has been inflated by political bullshit. Did you know that about 50% of pregnancies self abort? The main reason behind that is because the genetics would produce a bad offspring (I think that's right. It's close if not.). The kind of abortions that are done at the doctor's office are done for similar reasons. They are done because the kid will have a bad environment to develop in, and a kid's environment is at least as important as its genetics. Artificial abortions are kind of like a step up from having to rely on miscarriages. They give us and our offspring a new advantage.
Life is sacred, but so is death. We tend to forget that in the first world. We're at a point with our species now where overproducing our young is detrimental to us as a whole. We're still getting bigger and we're creating more problems than we're solving. We don't need more people in the world, and we'd probably benefit from having a few less people that need to be helped. We don't need any more kids that are going to become fucked up adults. We need kids that will turn into adults that will fix our stupid fuckups. It might seem brutal to decide which kids live and which die, but if we don't start taking responsibility for those decisions, the world will decide for us, and it's a hell of a lot more brutal than we are because it really just doesn't care about our feelings or well being.
Abortions are for the kids as much as they are for the parents, man.
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Maybe transsexuals could buy the penis or vagina they always wanted through this "body parts for sale".
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: qman]
#21956340 - 07/17/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Such a sick fucking world we live in.
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I hear you man, but I'm not swaying on this one. I guess you aren't either, so there it is.. I'm sticking by what I've said.
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Mr.GuessWork said: The kind of abortions that are done at the doctor's office are done for similar reasons. They are done because the kid will have a bad environment to develop in, and a kid's environment is at least as important as its genetics.
I'm pretty sure that's not the usual reason for abortions.
It's usually because the woman is a lazy whore.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Astral Pain]
#21956370 - 07/17/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are people really upset about them taking organs and tissue from fucking aborted fetuses for scientific research?
Yeah you guys are right.. they are much better off in the dumpster.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
#21956377 - 07/17/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I hear you man, but I'm not swaying on this one. I guess you aren't either, so there it is.. I'm sticking by what I've said.
I'll remain open to counter arguments and appeals. I hope you will too.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Shroomism]
#21956381 - 07/17/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think they put them in the dumpster and I already posted the relevant law regarding parental consent and procedure.
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Mr.GuessWork said: The kind of abortions that are done at the doctor's office are done for similar reasons. They are done because the kid will have a bad environment to develop in, and a kid's environment is at least as important as its genetics.
I'm pretty sure that's not the usual reason for abortions.
It's usually because the woman is a lazy whore.
I euphemized it a bit, but the point holds. Lazy whores make bad parents and they're doing the world, the kid, and themselves a service by opting out when the chance arises. It's always nice when selfishness works out in everyone's best interest.
EDIT: Fucking spellcheck.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Shroomism] 2
#21956426 - 07/17/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Are people really upset about them taking organs and tissue from fucking aborted fetuses for scientific research?
Yeah you guys are right.. they are much better off in the dumpster.
As far as I'm concerned, it's more the abortion I have a problem with. It really doesn't much matter what happens with the remains once killed..
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