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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: koraks] * 1
    #21952402 - 07/16/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/289g-1
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In research carried out under subsection (a) of this section, human fetal tissue may be used only if the attending physician with respect to obtaining the tissue from the woman involved makes a statement, made in writing and signed by the physician, declaring that—
(A) in the case of tissue obtained pursuant to an induced abortion—
(i) the consent of the woman for the abortion was obtained prior to requesting or obtaining consent for a donation of the tissue for use in such research;
(ii) no alteration of the timing, method, or procedures used to terminate the pregnancy was made solely for the purposes of obtaining the tissue; and
(iii) the abortion was performed in accordance with applicable State law;




How many consent forms do you think they have on file? 

I don't think they should get one nickel of tax money.  Charity and fee for service.  Not a single government nickel.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21952410 - 07/16/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Malcolm_Xtasy said:
Alcoholics are always the lowest on the priority list :lol:



Unless you're a rock star or a governer. :lolsy:


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21954346 - 07/16/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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OsculateOfDemise said:
I think the issue of being pro choice or not is much more of a topic rather than what to do with an aborted fetus. If the choice was already made, what difference does it make if it was thrown away or used for research? What's done is done and refusing to donate is not going to change the outcome of the potential child.

If you are pro choice, but think this is sick, then you obviously have your priorities mixed up...




I think you are underestimating the power of capitalism.  If we as a society create a market for aborted fetuses, believe me, someone will step in to make that money.  Now, i am pro choice, but i don't want to see a world where abortions are actively marketed. (Imagine this, The camera zooms in and focuses on a case of hormone birth control pills. A narrator with a stern male voice lists the possible side effects. camera fades out and back in on  the front yard of a suburban house, there is a white picket fence. A pretty teenage girl comes walking up the sidewalk to the house. she is wearing a backpack. as she opens the gate, she turns to the camera, shrugs, and says "i just had an abortion instead" then skips into the house. camera fades out) That just seems grotesque to me.  Sure sure, its in the name of medical science etc., but so were freaky nazi medical experiments. :shrug: sometimes the ends don't justify the means IMO.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21954393 - 07/16/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

has anyone busted out the dead baby jokes yet?

What's red, bubbling, and scratches at the window?

a baby in a microwave


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Hippocampus]
    #21954418 - 07/17/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:boring:


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: 1234go]
    #21954425 - 07/17/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Everyone posting in this thread knows that the 30 to 100 dollars covers cost of shipping and storing the parts, and that they're being used to research cures for debilitating diseases right?

I can only hope as I browse the responses it's not a lot of :picard:.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: 1234go]
    #21954445 - 07/17/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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1234go said:
Yes, I understand all of that and i'm for all of that.





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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: 1234go]
    #21954507 - 07/17/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The real issue is that barbecue sauce isn't included.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21954564 - 07/17/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
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Kinko said:
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Shroomslip said:
I'm not sure where to say I stand on this. Lot of conflicting emotion/thoughts.

I am pro choice, but at the same time this just seems so callous. Then again we have organ donation for the dead, but even that can be callous. My grandfather wasn't an organ donor, and not even hours after he died, we had people calling us up asking if they could have his corneas. He was a person, not a fucking classic car that up and died that you should just swoop in and try to scavenge parts from. The other side of that is that he didn't need them anymore and they could have improved someone's quality of life.

I dunno.. I see both sides of it and it's hard to form an opinion one way or another on it.



That made me sick you let your uncles organs rott away instead of saving someones life?? Fucking pride man or is it ego??either way i hope you are never in need of an organ donor.



You don't read very well, do you?

For the record we did let them have them. It wouldn't have even been a big deal if he were an organ donor but he wasn't and just hours after he dies we have people trying to scavenge parts from him.




Its usually suppose to happen as they die. Organs are only viable for so long. I find it sort of selfish that you would rather have had his organs waste away so you could hold onto what once was for a few more moments. They couldve brought so many more to countless others.


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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21954565 - 07/17/15 01:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

unless the organ dealer's got some good connect's, the organ won't be viable.

it's a myth.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21954589 - 07/17/15 02:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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ballsalsa said:
If we as a society create a market for aborted fetuses, believe me, someone will step in to make that money. 



It's been said before, but the solution is to regulate this, monitor the practices and hold everyone involved to a strict regulatory framework.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21954619 - 07/17/15 02:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've fully seen abortion videos where the kid just gets suctioned out at warp speed Into a bloody receptacle and they're all torn up to pieces with limbs and shit all ripped apart. It doesn't come out as a chunk or one blob or w/e, more like fetal minestrone


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Soulidarity] * 1
    #21954621 - 07/17/15 02:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Soulidarity said:
I've fully seen abortion videos where the kid just gets suctioned out at warp speed Into a bloody receptacle and they're all torn up to pieces with limbs and shit all ripped apart. It doesn't come out as a chunk or one blob or w/e, more like fetal minestrone





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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #21954714 - 07/17/15 03:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Astral Pain said:
They are alive before they go in and rip the parts off. If it was a rotting carcass it would be useless.




Well…. yes….. obviously a fetus is alive before an abortion takes place. The fetus however does not come out alive. It is disassembled and taken apart in the womb, that is how an abortion works.



A fetus is "alive" like a liver is alive. The fetus doesn't know itself as separate from the mother's body, just like the other organs. When a fetus is "aborted", it's just like when any other organ is removed.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: endogenous] * 2
    #21954800 - 07/17/15 04:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

no way dude.  When I was a fetus I went to fetus college.  My dissertation on birth tactics to avoid the squeeze and force a nice easy C-section was very well received.  I was born Summa Cum Laude, valedictorian, and first in my uterus class.  I was also star stomach boxer, and a master gymnast with three gold medals on the bladder trampoline.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Hippocampus]
    #21954802 - 07/17/15 04:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21954806 - 07/17/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:lolwut:


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21955128 - 07/17/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/289g-1
Quote:

In research carried out under subsection (a) of this section, human fetal tissue may be used only if the attending physician with respect to obtaining the tissue from the woman involved makes a statement, made in writing and signed by the physician, declaring that—
(A) in the case of tissue obtained pursuant to an induced abortion—
(i) the consent of the woman for the abortion was obtained prior to requesting or obtaining consent for a donation of the tissue for use in such research;
(ii) no alteration of the timing, method, or procedures used to terminate the pregnancy was made solely for the purposes of obtaining the tissue; and
(iii) the abortion was performed in accordance with applicable State law;




How many consent forms do you think they have on file? 

I don't think they should get one nickel of tax money.  Charity and fee for service.  Not a single government nickel.




In other words you want them to shut down, cause that is what would happen.


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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Confucian] * 1
    #21955149 - 07/17/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Confucian said:
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zappaisgod said:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/289g-1
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In research carried out under subsection (a) of this section, human fetal tissue may be used only if the attending physician with respect to obtaining the tissue from the woman involved makes a statement, made in writing and signed by the physician, declaring that—
(A) in the case of tissue obtained pursuant to an induced abortion—
(i) the consent of the woman for the abortion was obtained prior to requesting or obtaining consent for a donation of the tissue for use in such research;
(ii) no alteration of the timing, method, or procedures used to terminate the pregnancy was made solely for the purposes of obtaining the tissue; and
(iii) the abortion was performed in accordance with applicable State law;




How many consent forms do you think they have on file? 

I don't think they should get one nickel of tax money.  Charity and fee for service.  Not a single government nickel.




In other words you want them to shut down, cause that is what would happen.



Why would you say that?  They get charity donations and they charge for their services.  The company they sell the parts to charges a shitload more than that to the research facilities they service so maybe they should just cut out the middleman and make real money on market value.  Also, I want to see the consent forms.  Because that is the law.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #21955205 - 07/17/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

People who support abortion are fucked n the head.  In a perfect world, an abortion would consist of a bullet to the parents head and some form of life support for the fetus..  "over population" solved :cookiemonster:


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