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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: qman]
    #21951080 - 07/16/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Adden]
    #21951169 - 07/16/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

here are some reasons for why people are understandably squeamish about the buying and selling of human remains.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_snatching

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomy_murder


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21951204 - 07/16/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

^^ which is why legalizing and regulating is a good idea. :elmo:


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: badchad]
    #21951232 - 07/16/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

even some people who support women's right to have an abortion if she needs one, don't necessarily want to see a financial incentive for private business to encourage abortions


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: 1234go]
    #21951249 - 07/16/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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1234go said:
Shut up kinko, put yourself in his shoes.

I'd be put off to say the least if i got calls requesting a recently passed family members body parts.




This happens every time someone dies and they still have viable organs. Sometimes, even before they die. Where do you think they get organ transplants from? You can't sell the organs but somebody get paid for harvesting them :cookiemonster:


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21951254 - 07/16/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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even some people who support women's right to have an abortion if she needs one, don't necessarily want to see a financial incentive for private business to encourage abortions




So you think the people who have the medical skills required to remove desired tissues should do the work for free? You are paying for the procedure not the tissue.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: koods]
    #21951270 - 07/16/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you think the value of human tissue is about $30 to $100 you are completely delusional.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: koods] * 1
    #21951459 - 07/16/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Dys said:
What's the difference in being an organ donor vs. donating an aborted fetus?

You're dead so who cares? If my eyes could help a blind kid see, great. If my aborted child could help research into curing xyz, great.

No one makes it out of here alive.





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koods said:


This happens every time someone dies and they still have viable organs. Sometimes, even before they die. Where do you think they get organ transplants from? You can't sell the organs but somebody get paid for harvesting them :cookiemonster:




Yes guys, I understand all of that and i'm for all of that.
The post was in reference to kinko being "sick" towards shroomslip all because
he was mourning his grandfather and was sensitive at the time about giving his body away.

I was just suggesting before he "gets sick" over someone, that he tries to understand first.






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I'm not sure where to say I stand on this. Lot of conflicting emotion/thoughts.

I am pro choice, but at the same time this just seems so callous. Then again we have organ donation for the dead, but even that can be callous. My grandfather wasn't an organ donor, and not even hours after he died, we had people calling us up asking if they could have his corneas. He was a person, not a fucking classic car that up and died that you should just swoop in and try to scavenge parts from. The other side of that is that he didn't need them anymore and they could have improved someone's quality of life.

I dunno.. I see both sides of it and it's hard to form an opinion one way or another on it.




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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: 1234go]
    #21951470 - 07/16/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Do you think I could get a new liver? I'm pretty sure I fucked mine up pretty badly...


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Patlal]
    #21951471 - 07/16/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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fetus a la carte






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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Patlal]
    #21951473 - 07/16/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Alcoholics are always the lowest on the priority list :lol:


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: 1234go]
    #21951476 - 07/16/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Eh I'm all for being an organ donor, have always signed up for it. Logic being I doubt I will care after becoming dead, if that is amiss calculation then I suppose I will deal with that regret.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Patlal]
    #21951482 - 07/16/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Do you think I could get a new liver? I'm pretty sure I fucked mine up pretty badly...



I'll trade mine for drugs


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21951488 - 07/16/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Alcoholics are always the lowest on the priority list :lol:




It sucks cause I'm very far from being this typical 24/7 drunk stumbling everywhere and waking up in dumpsters.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Patlal]
    #21951503 - 07/16/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I mean same. Unfortunately we're still alcoholics by definition even if we're functional


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #21951519 - 07/16/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the issue of being pro choice or not is much more of a topic rather than what to do with an aborted fetus. If the choice was already made, what difference does it make if it was thrown away or used for research? What's done is done and refusing to donate is not going to change the outcome of the potential child.

If you are pro choice, but think this is sick, then you obviously have your priorities mixed up...


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21951536 - 07/16/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I mean same. Unfortunately we're still alcoholics by definition even if we're functional




They say its a disease.

Why are they discriminating against our disease?


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Patlal]
    #21951569 - 07/16/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think we should start replacing the balls and pucks used in sports with fetuses instead of this monstrosity of selling them to the highest bidder.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Kinko] * 1
    #21952044 - 07/16/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
I'm not sure where to say I stand on this. Lot of conflicting emotion/thoughts.

I am pro choice, but at the same time this just seems so callous. Then again we have organ donation for the dead, but even that can be callous. My grandfather wasn't an organ donor, and not even hours after he died, we had people calling us up asking if they could have his corneas. He was a person, not a fucking classic car that up and died that you should just swoop in and try to scavenge parts from. The other side of that is that he didn't need them anymore and they could have improved someone's quality of life.

I dunno.. I see both sides of it and it's hard to form an opinion one way or another on it.



That made me sick you let your uncles organs rott away instead of saving someones life?? Fucking pride man or is it ego??either way i hope you are never in need of an organ donor.



You don't read very well, do you?

For the record we did let them have them. It wouldn't have even been a big deal if he were an organ donor but he wasn't and just hours after he dies we have people trying to scavenge parts from him.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21952109 - 07/16/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
just hours after he dies we have people trying to scavenge parts from him.



I'm sorry you had this sad experience. It's one of the dilemmas of the medical profession, because as you understand, organs tend to go bad quite quickly so doctors are faced with the choice between approaching mourning next of kin and telling someone they won't get their sight back. It's a tough one.


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