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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
    #21961016 - 07/18/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You know that's not the answer I was baiting. :nonono:


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21961052 - 07/18/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have an answer you can bait..


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
    #21961060 - 07/18/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think I want that one.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21961072 - 07/18/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

my God,... you're all posting such regurgitated crap.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21961073 - 07/18/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are you sitting around waiting on me to reply?


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21961082 - 07/18/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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my God,... you're all posting such regurgitated crap.



Enlighten us dunzo.  You seem to be pretty content with your own intelligence, what doth you profess?


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21961084 - 07/18/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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my God,... you're all posting such regurgitated crap.




It's true at this point.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
    #21961092 - 07/18/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Are you sitting around waiting on me to reply?




I must be at this point because nothing else is happening. Maybe we should just abandon what little discussion might remain for the sake of rule #4.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Amanita86]
    #21961142 - 07/18/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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my God,... you're all posting such regurgitated crap.



Enlighten us dunzo.  You seem to be pretty content with your own intelligence, what doth you profess?




seriously... 11 pages about abortion rights?

you live in modern society. give it a rest, is all i'm saying. it's boring and you're all arguing for no good reason. no one can get along here unless they on the same exact side of a gouged out issue that's already been paraded around since the dawn of modern civilization.

just give it up.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21962774 - 07/18/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Well let me ask you this.  In the mind of every aborted fetus that ever was and will be... what does that make you?




You're personifying the fetus too much, man. It doesn't have a functional mind. It can respond to some stimuli, but it sure as hell isn't forming abstract ideas.




Precisely what I was going to say. There is no "mind" within an aborted fetus. Why are you pretending like they are capable of forming coherently streamlined thoughts?


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
    #21962803 - 07/18/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

a fetus mind:

"i am laying inbetween two magnificent folds right now, a consciousness broken between the fragments of my coming together, and non-existence."


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
    #21962936 - 07/18/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

why do they need abstract thought or streamlined thoughts for it to matter?  Isn't being able to use your senses, if even only partly useing them, enough?


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21963063 - 07/19/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

fetus's cannot voice their opinion's, thus they are bereft from having any say in their livelihood. then take into account that they couldn't possibly care about that, well...think about that.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: makaveli8x8] * 1
    #21963256 - 07/19/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The point is that the fetus doesn't know itself apart from the other organs in the mother's body.

If you take a person from Russia and bring them to the US - it usually will take a long time before they start feeling like they're separate from Russia.




you actually don't know that for a fact.  All you know is that you don't have memories of knowing what it was like to be a fetus.

For all we know, 8+ weeks in, you have 1 neuron in just the right place that lets you experience what its like to be a fetus, but with zero memory retention, or memory for 1 second, whatever it may be.

Fact is, we don't know, which is why its a debate, the only ones pretending its fact, is the baby killers so they don't feel guilty for doing it, if they even feel guilt at all.



We don't know for sure that the sun is going to rise in the morning. But there aren't many people who would want to debate about it.

The fact is that the fetus is like an organ of the mother's body and it is reasonable to assume that it relates to the mother's body in the same way as the other organs of the mother's body.

But the fetus-freaks, (similar to "Jesus-freaks") don't want to listen to reason. They are too busy believing that people who've been dead for 3 days can come back to life.

No reason to waste time debating with someone like that.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: endogenous]
    #21963263 - 07/19/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Y-Y-Y-YYYYYYYYeap.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: endogenous]
    #21963280 - 07/19/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that sounds like alot of opinion, i bet there are lots of people who debate when a baby gains the ability to feel and sense, as well as when it begins to think, hence, the great debate


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: endogenous] * 1
    #21963987 - 07/19/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The fact is that the fetus is like an organ of the mother's body and it is reasonable to assume that it relates to the mother's body in the same way as the other organs of the mother's body.

But the fetus-freaks, (similar to "Jesus-freaks") don't want to listen to reason. They are too busy believing that people who've been dead for 3 days can come back to life.

No reason to waste time debating with someone like that.




The fact is that you are going to have to prove that claim somehow if you want people to accept it as fact.  It is reasonable to assume that organs don't "relate" to anything, so what are you talking about?  A fetus has very few things in common with it's mothers organs, aside from a temporary connection to the mother's circulatory system. As for "fetus-freaks", thats just an ad hominem attack, with little bearing on the topic at hand. It shows that your argument cannot stand on it's own merit. You are doing a disservice to women by trivializing a decision that should be carefully considered


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #21963994 - 07/19/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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fetus's cannot voice their opinion's, thus they are bereft from having any say in their livelihood. then take into account that they couldn't possibly care about that, well...think about that.




Neither can infants and we can't go around hittin' 'em with a hammer.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21964024 - 07/19/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The fact is that the fetus is like an organ of the mother's body and it is reasonable to assume that it relates to the mother's body in the same way as the other organs of the mother's body.

But the fetus-freaks, (similar to "Jesus-freaks") don't want to listen to reason. They are too busy believing that people who've been dead for 3 days can come back to life.

No reason to waste time debating with someone like that.




The fact is that you are going to have to prove that claim somehow if you want people to accept it as fact.  It is reasonable to assume that organs don't "relate" to anything, so what are you talking about?  A fetus has very few things in common with it's mothers organs, aside from a temporary connection to the mother's circulatory system. As for "fetus-freaks", thats just an ad hominem attack, with little bearing on the topic at hand. It shows that your argument cannot stand on it's own merit. You are doing a disservice to women by trivializing a decision that should be carefully considered





This analogy has gotten far too convoluted. The point is that a fetus is not the same thing as a baby in either a physiological sense or a psychological sense. Yes it's more complicated than an organ, but it is not a tiny baby either. The reason the analogy was put forth was because people were talking about fetuses like they were mini people or mini babies, and they are not persons as in "a human being regarded as an individual". There is a significant difference between between a fetus and a person that should not be ignored by reasonable fair-minded people.


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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Mr.GuessWork] * 1
    #21964026 - 07/19/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Says who? You?


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