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Baby body parts for sale(now a 2nd video) 1
#21950379 - 07/16/15 03:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've been hearing the audio from this undercover video of a planned parenthood official the last few days, and it's even worse when I saw the video. Sorry, but it makes me sick to see this and I couldn't keep it bottled up, and the more people who see this and are aware the better imo.
EDIT: Changed article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3161040/Planned-Parenthood-s-doctor-caught-undercover-video-discussing-sale-aborted-fetus-organs-potential-buyers-including-body-worth.html
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A shocking video has emerged that shows a Planned Parenthood doctor discussing the sale of body parts taken from aborted fetuses with who she believes to be potential buyers from a medical company.
Dr. Deborah Nucatola, who has been the Senior Director of Medical Services at Planned Parenthood Federation of America since February of 2009, is seen on camera as she discusses selling hearts, lungs, livers and even the muscles of aborted fetuses.
She also discusses using 'partial-birth abortion' techniques to deliver some of these organs intact
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It's downright appalling to see this woman speak so cavalier about the caliper placement on the babies body to spare certain body parts while she stuffs her disgusting face with food. I'm sure most here can't relate as of yet, but for those of us who have sat through an ultrasound and witnessed their unborn child's heartbeat can attest to this being murder. There may be politics behind the legality of the age, but there's a point where it's just sickening.
This should be front page news along with a full investigation, prosecution, and arrest of this woman. Not a peep from the MSM and only time will tell whether anything becomes of this revelation.
There's a video in the article above, but I found it posted in YouTube as well.
EDIT: Second video as of 7-21
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/21/new-video-shows-another-planned-parenthood-doctor-haggling-price-of-baby-body-parts/
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In the second video released today by the Center for Medical Progress, yet another senior medical adviser to Planned Parenthood of America appears to negotiate the price of selling baby body parts to actors playing entrepreneurs from a start-up biotech firm.
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Edited by Astral Pain (07/21/15 07:39 AM)
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Astral Pain] 8
#21950386 - 07/16/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If I have an abortion and wish to donate a fetus to scientific research, why should I not be able to? I'm really not seeing the problem here.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21950392 - 07/16/15 03:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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How far along? What the lady is describing in the video appears to be partial birth. She would give you $30 to $100 for specific parts from what I heard.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Astral Pain] 4
#21950396 - 07/16/15 03:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Partial birth abortions are not legal in a single state in the USA. The end of the 2nd trimester, is the farthest you can have an abortion legally in the USA, and even then that is only available in a couple of states, such as California (gotta love my state ). Most states only allow an abortion up until 12 weeks.
I saw the video, it was indeed quoted $30 to $100 per specimen. I still don't see what's wrong with the concept. It is technically dead tissue and medical waste. Might as well be using it to fund stem cell research, legislators should have never impeded that.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21950397 - 07/16/15 03:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not sure where to say I stand on this. Lot of conflicting emotion/thoughts.
I am pro choice, but at the same time this just seems so callous. Then again we have organ donation for the dead, but even that can be callous. My grandfather wasn't an organ donor, and not even hours after he died, we had people calling us up asking if they could have his corneas. He was a person, not a fucking classic car that up and died that you should just swoop in and try to scavenge parts from. The other side of that is that he didn't need them anymore and they could have improved someone's quality of life.
I dunno.. I see both sides of it and it's hard to form an opinion one way or another on it.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Shroomslip] 1
#21950404 - 07/16/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm the same way, but I think the fact that it's a defenseless baby makes it worse than someone donating their organs after natural death. It's apparent they make more money the older the baby is, but there's a point where it becomes flat out murder.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Astral Pain] 5
#21950409 - 07/16/15 04:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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They are aborted fetuses. Aborted. As in not alive. Dead tissue mate. The fetuses do not come out alive when they pull them out.
Better to go towards scientific research, as opposed to simply getting thrown in the dumpster and getting wasted.
Basically if you listen to the lady's reasoning for using an ultrasound during an abortion (which was then compared to "partial birth abortion" procedures in the video), it is to keep the liver and heart intact, since most vendors and researchers want specific organs for research I guess.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Astral Pain] 7
#21950414 - 07/16/15 04:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I missed the crux of the argument, why shouldn't organs and body tissue be used for research?
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: badchad] 4
#21950416 - 07/16/15 04:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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badchad said: I missed the crux of the argument, why shouldn't organs and body tissue be used for research?
Because babies.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G] 1
#21950417 - 07/16/15 04:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dead fetuses would not be a problem, she is talking about harvesting living baby parts. The living part is the entire problem.
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#21950418 - 07/16/15 04:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G]
#21950421 - 07/16/15 04:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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badchad said: I missed the crux of the argument, why shouldn't organs and body tissue be used for research?
Because babies.
At least they added the "selling baby parts" twist to spice it up a bit.
What if they say four hail marys at the end of the procedure, doesn't that make it better?
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Astral Pain] 1
#21950424 - 07/16/15 04:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Astral Pain said: Dead fetuses would not be a problem, she is talking about harvesting living baby parts. The living part is the entire problem.
Could you point to the specific part of the video where she's talking about harvesting live babies? I heard her talk about using ultrasound to preserve the internal organs and keep them intact.
What do you mean live baby "parts?" An organ by itself is not alive. If I took your liver out your body, your liver is not a live entity.
Also, Hayoxp: Obvious troll is obvious troll. Want to kick my ass? Come on over.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Hayoxp]
#21950430 - 07/16/15 04:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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They are alive before they go in and rip the parts off. If it was a rotting carcass it would be useless.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Astral Pain] 1
#21950437 - 07/16/15 04:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Astral Pain said: They are alive before they go in and rip the parts off. If it was a rotting carcass it would be useless.
Well…. yes….. obviously a fetus is alive before an abortion takes place. The fetus however does not come out alive. It is disassembled and taken apart in the womb, that is how an abortion works.
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#21950438 - 07/16/15 04:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Crystal G] 1
#21950441 - 07/16/15 04:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: They are aborted fetuses. Aborted. As in not alive. Dead tissue mate. The fetuses do not come out alive when they pull them out.
Better to go towards scientific research, as opposed to simply getting thrown in the dumpster and getting wasted.
Basically if you listen to the lady's reasoning for using an ultrasound during an abortion (which was then compared to "partial birth abortion" procedures in the video), it is to keep the liver and heart intact, since most vendors and researchers want specific organs for research I guess.
Thankyou. There are countless ways this process helps others, the medical field is advancing rapidly towards curing a lot of really horrific things thanks to stem cell research.
I see no issue with this whatsoever.
http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/15/planned-parenthood-and-fetal-tissue
Sure, the lady might talk about it in kind of a stony manner, but what do you want? These aren't babies, these are aborted fetuses that never developed. This is just how people in the medical field are - the polite dinner conversation of a group of doctors would shock and disgust the rest of us.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Hayoxp] 2
#21950443 - 07/16/15 04:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Look at meeeee I'm so hardcore on the internets 
How fucking stupid do you have to be that you can't even engage in a debate without pulling the "I'm so hardcore I'll beat your ass" card (which no, you can't, I'm willing to be money I'm twice as strong as you are). Like I said, feel free to drop by.
*edit* That was directed to the obvious troll, not to pirate blues
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Astral Pain] 1
#21950444 - 07/16/15 04:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Someone fell victim to the propoganda machine.
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Re: Baby body parts for sale [Re: Astral Pain]
#21950446 - 07/16/15 04:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, but that doesn't make it any better. It just makes it legal, but to a point. Try reading the article if you have just watched the video at this point.
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