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OfflineTweakz
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Contam or unconsolidated myc?
    #21950237 - 07/16/15 01:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

got a jar of wbs here that may or may not have cobweb growing in it.

all the info i can give is that it looks like its part of the mycelium just slightly grey, could be too much moisture or simply myc that hasnt consolidated yet, or worst case scenario.. cobwebs :sad:






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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: Tweakz]
    #21950319 - 07/16/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Jar looks sick. Sorry man. I'd start more jars and put that one out back to see what becomes of it...


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21950359 - 07/16/15 03:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ive seen people fruit cakes that are way more contaminated and it seems to work, do you reckon this is possible? and if so could i just pop the lid when its consolidated and hope for the best?

oh and is mycelium piss a bad sign?


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: Tweakz]
    #21950366 - 07/16/15 03:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Tweakz said:
ive seen people fruit cakes that are way more contaminated and it seems to work, do you reckon this is possible? and if so could i just pop the lid when its consolidated and hope for the best?




Anything is possible. I have spawned sketchy jars to bulk when I was starting out and it sometimes produced something.
I have more luck fruiting contaminated substrates outdoors, but sincerely don't really try because it's a waste of my space and time when I have more jars coming down the pipe.

The risk of spreading the contaminate to your grow area is the reason people avoid messing around with jars like that. Not worth jeopardizing future projects.


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21950372 - 07/16/15 03:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

it doesn't look fully colonized yet, would i have to wait a while if i wanted to fruit it? and can i fruit straight wbs cakes or do i need verm/moss ?


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: Tweakz]
    #21950374 - 07/16/15 03:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Fruiting straight WBS sucks. The jar will probably never finish colonizing which is why I am saying to start other projects.


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21950377 - 07/16/15 03:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:sad:


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: Tweakz]
    #21950722 - 07/16/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Why do you think this is cobweb?

Any odors?

It could be bacterial, in which case you may have some luck spawning it.........


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: SynKyd]
    #21950728 - 07/16/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

cobweb was just my closest guess, could be anything or could be nothing, hoping its the latter.

as for odors i don't smell anything and i don't really wanna open it.


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: Tweakz]
    #21950851 - 07/16/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Look like bacteria....  sorry man. :shrug:


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21950974 - 07/16/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid: bacteria. I'll get you a quote of my experiences with bacterial spawn.

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Regardless it doesn't kill bacteria completely when colonizing over it. And as such you will have diminishing returns. Spawn that had bacteria like that when mixed into bulk can, and most of the time for me has succeeded. However it also greatly weakens the myc as it colonizes through it, highly increases chances of other contaminations in bulk and lowers yield.

In bulk bacteria is rarely a concern because in the substrates they have beneficial microbes (bacterias and such) that mycelium LOVES. And it fights off the bacteria in the spawn. This is why pasteurized bulk can be spawned in open air.

There is a problem though. Don't expect a super high biological efficiency.

This jar from a clone is bacterial and is considered 100%. I'd say your jars are 100% and ready for spawning.


Turned into:


This jar from the same clone, which is completely clean:

Notice it isn't thick white/cottage cheese looking. That's another indicator of bacteria being present. Also the wet grains is an indicator too.

Turned into:


Clean spawn easily gives me twice the yield. That's another thing I've noticed too.



Go ahead and try it out if you feel like it. However wait until it's fully colonized, if it even makes it to fully colonized.


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21951150 - 07/16/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that jar looks opposite of what cobweb does. Dunno why people call thick white bac cobweb but its just the way things go around here.

I'm feeling pretty confident you got a large patch of mold in there.

How is your jars/lids made?


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21953774 - 07/16/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Mad Season said:
:whathesaid: bacteria. I'll get you a quote of my experiences with bacterial spawn.

Quote:

Mad Season said:
Regardless it doesn't kill bacteria completely when colonizing over it. And as such you will have diminishing returns. Spawn that had bacteria like that when mixed into bulk can, and most of the time for me has succeeded. However it also greatly weakens the myc as it colonizes through it, highly increases chances of other contaminations in bulk and lowers yield.

In bulk bacteria is rarely a concern because in the substrates they have beneficial microbes (bacterias and such) that mycelium LOVES. And it fights off the bacteria in the spawn. This is why pasteurized bulk can be spawned in open air.

There is a problem though. Don't expect a super high biological efficiency.

This jar from a clone is bacterial and is considered 100%. I'd say your jars are 100% and ready for spawning.


Turned into:


This jar from the same clone, which is completely clean:

Notice it isn't thick white/cottage cheese looking. That's another indicator of bacteria being present. Also the wet grains is an indicator too.

Turned into:


Clean spawn easily gives me twice the yield. That's another thing I've noticed too.



Go ahead and try it out if you feel like it. However wait until it's fully colonized, if it even makes it to fully colonized.





thank you mad season for the very informative response, I wasn't expecting too much from this jar because it was created with the black dust left on the bottom of a ziplock bag of dried mushrooms i bought. I have a clean print coming and i will try again with better material.


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Re: Contam or unconsolidated myc? [Re: spacechildo]
    #21953784 - 07/16/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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that jar looks opposite of what cobweb does. Dunno why people call thick white bac cobweb but its just the way things go around here.

I'm feeling pretty confident you got a large patch of mold in there.

How is your jars/lids made?




haha you noticed the weird jars, basically i bought what looked like really good jars but when i PCed them the thread that connects the lid to the jar melted and now the lids pop right off without having to screw them, so i had to tape them down lol. this may go down as the worst attempt of cultivation ever.


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