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Offlinebirthdaysuit

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Not myself after I Quit Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis
    #21949283 - 07/15/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I’m 20 years of age, quite smoking cannabis a few months ago and I believe that I have developed a form of social anxiety.

All throughout me teenage years, until about a year ago I was an extrovert. Very outgoing, with lots of charisma. However, I am now the complete opposite of that following my cannabis induced panic attack. I have not felt the same since and have become extremely introspective.

Almost a year before I even started smoking cannabis I took almost 4g of Tek shrooms and experienced what I can only describe as being reborn. It was scary and markedly enlightening (I hate that word). I started to see that similar to my old self, people thought about being better than everyone else and projecting an image. During the trip I did however feel tremendously lonely for a short moment and during this time my friends were telling themselves how they wanted to try every drug, including heroin. This caused me to spiral into quite a daunting, negative mind loop. All I wanted at this point was silence; I meditated and felt pure inner bliss, but my friends kept asking if I was dead, so it didn’t last too long.

Nevertheless, I had become positive in my thinking, never judging others and complementing them in the best ways possible, though not many people like to be complemented for some strange reason. I also started reading books about history, group psychology, etc. I tried having rational conversations with my friends but it was downright impossible. I was feeling good and dandy until I started smoking cannabis.

After my cannabis induced panic attack, I quit cold turkey and went to the doctors because I didn’t know who I was. My brain was in a fog, I could not concentrate, my eyesight was blurry and dull almost like I was looking through a film of grey, sounds were earsplitting, I had a full prickly rash all over my body, I had tingling in the fingers and an odd sensation in my left front-upper side of my head that resembled a void/black hole. I always felt it when I smoked but it didn’t seem to bother me until my panic attack. To cope with it I usually try to occupy myself with something or else the sensation will become too overwhelming. Nevertheless, Lyme disease was ruled out, although blood tests can oftentimes come back false negative.

Moreover, the biggest PROBLEM is that I get these weird spasms that can materialize when I’m anxious/nervous. It has caused me to try to void my thoughts in order to block out the sensations; my brain feels as though it's trapped in a pressurized vise and my head wobbles. This has also caused me to be unable to look people in the eyes. If I do my neck will tense up and I’ll start to spasm out. I try to control my spasms by never looking up or making eye contact and resting my head on my hands. If I’m in class, I’ll distract myself by scribbling or taking notes, however if I cease doing this my symptoms will appear. If I let these symptoms continue, I’ll start to clench and sweat. Moreover, I am unable to talk long periods of time to people because my brain feels like it stops working. I’ll forget what I am saying mid sentence and an uncomfortable, overwhelming feeling will take over me. That being said it is very annoying and I want it to stop so bad! This never happened before I started smoking cannabis! I was the complete opposite of who I am today. I can’t even look at my parents in the eyes, nor my friends. Others have told me this is a time of transition from adolescence to adulthood and, like all transitions, is often accompanied by a degree of doubt and worry.

That being said cannabis has made me a more positive person, I am not anxious or depressed if I’m in solitude/alone fishing or hiking. A person who now likes the simple and small things in life. I like to garden and birdwatch, all of which I would of thought was ‘queer' before smoking. I have found my earthy and spiritual side! I continue to do the things I love to do sober, like music, hiking, fishing, and birdwatching but it seems I like to do these things in solitude. I believe that company is good but solitude is bliss.





• Kava Kava. Kava appeared to be a promising treatment for my anxiety. Evidence shows that certain kava extracts (extracts standardized to 70% kavalactones) can lower anxiety and might work as prescription anti-anxiety medications called low-dose benzodiazepines. kavalactones, are reported to include sedative, anxiolytic, antistress, analgesic, local anaesthetic, anticonvulsant and neuroprotective properties. But it might take up to 8 weeks of treatment to see improvement. However, reports of serious liver damage — even with short-term use — caused several European countries to pull it off the market. The Food and Drug Administration has issued warnings but not banned sales in the United States. I’ll avoid using kava until more rigorous safety studies are done. One should especially avoid Kava if they have liver problems or take medications that affect their liver. Cases of hepatotoxicity have been linked to use of the aerial portions of the plant, i.e. stems, leaves, etc. --traditionally discarded by native drinkers--and to high-concentration alcohol extracts--as opposed to the aqueous extracts used traditionally. With this in mind, it is pretty safe to assume that aqueous extracts of the rhizome (tea prepared with the root) are not dangerous to most individuals. I tried a kava tea a while back.  Fucked me up big time, it's very sedating (so that means it works I guess lol).  Valerian was a close second.  I don't use them anymore because I don't like being sedated not matter how much anxiety I'm having.

Mechanism of Action:  UPREGULATION of the GABA RECEPTORS, specifically via INCREASING RECEPTOR DENSITY, there concomitantly exists just as many (if not more) studies that appear to demonstrate that KAVA KAVA is indeed a GABA RECEPTOR AGONIST. GABA RECEPTOR AGONIST will lead to down-regulation of the GABA receptors leads to TOLERANCE as well as REBOUND AND WITHDRAWAL upon their cessation of prolonged use.

• Passionflower. A few small clinical trials suggest that passionflower might help with anxiety. In many commercial products, passionflower is combined with other herbs, making it difficult to distinguish the unique qualities of each herb. Passionflower is generally considered safe when taken as directed, but some studies found it can cause drowsiness, dizziness and confusion. Yet to try this.

Mechanism of Action: GABA RECEPTOR AGONIST

• Valerian. In some studies, people who used valerian reported less anxiety and stress. In other studies, people reported no benefit. Valerian is generally considered safe at recommended doses, but since long-term safety trials are lacking, don't take it for more than a few weeks at a time. It can cause some side effects such as headaches and drowsiness. Felt very sedated, used for three weeks, did nothing but cause brain fog.

Mechanism of Action: GABA RECEPTOR AGONIST

• Rhodiola Rosea. Tried for three weeks. Higher doses act as a sedative, lower doses act as a stimulant. Pairs well with caffeine. Slightly reduced my anxiety when taken in low doses. Have to cycle due to tolerance.

• Holy Basil. Took tea form. Mellowed me out. Almost like a mellow sedative. Pairs well with green tea.

• Ashwagandha. GABA RECEPTOR AGONIST- Made me very tired. Spaced me out. Could not think.

• MACA. Took powder form for three months. Increased energy, better mood, stronger libido, anxiety unaffected.


ANYONE HAVE EXPERIENCES WITH THE ADAPTOGENS AND HERBS listed below?

•  Phenibut.

• Inositol. Heard that this significantly helps social anxiety and has a positive effect on general anxiety. Would love to know if anyone has used this. 

• Ginkgo.

• Chamomile. Limited data shows that short-term use of chamomile is generally considered safe and can be effective in reducing symptoms of anxiety. Use of chamomile can cause allergic reactions in some people who are sensitive to the family of plants that includes chamomile. Other members of this family are ragweed, marigolds, daisies and chrysanthemums.

• Lavender. Some evidence suggests that oral lavender or aromatherapy with lavender can reduce anxiety; however, evidence is preliminary and limited. Oral lavender can cause constipation and headache. It also can increase appetite and the sedative effect of other medications and supplements and can cause low blood pressure.
Lemon balm. Preliminary research shows lemon balm can reduce some symptoms of anxiety, such as nervousness and excitability. Lemon balm is generally well-tolerated and considered safe for short-term use, but can cause nausea and abdominal pain. Have yet to try it.


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: birthdaysuit]
    #21952637 - 07/16/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are we like twins?:shocked: Think we're in the same boat somewhat.
Still really sorry to hear that man, it just sucks completely.

After a kind of traumatic shock/scare experience i had while tripping on Truffels (dragon dynamite 10gr)(further explain is in my post, if your interested u can look it up. I have never been the same, which after a extreme panic attack on weed made it even worse.

''All throughout me teenage years, until about a year ago I was an extrovert. Very outgoing, with lots of charisma. However, I am now the complete opposite of that following my cannabis induced panic attack. I have not felt the same since and have become extremely introspective.''

-same here, I've always been that fun relax guy to hang with who was always in for a laugh :smile: but after 'that' everything changed. did alot of research to this, but can't really find the answer, doctors tell me it's partly in my head and stuff like that.

''Nevertheless, I had become positive in my thinking, never judging others and complementing them in the best ways possible, though not many people like to be complemented for some strange reason. I also started reading books about history, group psychology, etc. I tried having rational conversations with my friends but it was downright impossible. I was feeling good and dandy until I started smoking cannabis.''

-Trying to stay positive everyday :smile: it's a good thing. I am not sure if this is the case for you, but i found out that while i had somewhat of an ego death. 'I tried to be not in the way, or it just felt like i didn't fit in anymore, which resulted in me being over-friendly and talking like i am their bitch. Don't get me wrong compliments are great. But now i am trying to think fck it all, I didn't act this way before, so why now? just because i am not comfortable? NO. Instead of thinking oh god does this person like me?, i am thinking wether I like really like them or not! What i am trying to say is, don't start acting like a *** hole, just stay in you're own zone. this helped me quite alot :smile: maybe it does the same for you, but then again who i am to say.


''After my cannabis induced panic attack, I quit cold turkey and went to the doctors because I didn’t know who I was. My brain was in a fog, I could not concentrate, my eyesight was blurry and dull almost like I was looking through a film of grey, sounds were earsplitting, I had a full prickly rash all over my body, I had tingling in the fingers and an odd sensation in my left front-upper side of my head that resembled a void/black hole. I always felt it when I smoked but it didn’t seem to bother me until my panic attack. To cope with it I usually try to occupy myself with something or else the sensation will become too overwhelming. Nevertheless, Lyme disease was ruled out, although blood tests can oftentimes come back false negative.''

-Been through that aswell, after my traumatic exprience, i had a somewhat heavy fight with my N dad. who's responsible for all this for a great amount. My shoulder area and neck area tensed up really really bad, since then it's been stuck that way and every bit of stress goes to that area. What i can say is that you're still you! you just had a really bad experience, I am still suffering from this, I don't know how long it's been for you since the incident, but let me tell you it will slowly pass. it may not be tomorrow or next week, but you will find your way back :smile: just hang on to the happy things that happened in the mean time and maybe watch some old movies back you used to enjoy. about that rash you had, i´ve had it aswell, it just feels like complete unrest, i had it before, but it would pass, now it somewhat doesn´t go away anymore, tho i must say it´s slowly getting better. think alot of that has to do with quiting weed aswell. ive been a massive smoker over the past few years.



´´Moreover, the biggest PROBLEM is that I get these weird spasms that can materialize when I’m anxious/nervous. It has caused me to try to void my thoughts in order to block out the sensations; my brain feels as though it's trapped in a pressurized vise and my head wobbles. This has also caused me to be unable to look people in the eyes. If I do my neck will tense up and I’ll start to spasm out. I try to control my spasms by never looking up or making eye contact and resting my head on my hands. If I’m in class, I’ll distract myself by scribbling or taking notes, however if I cease doing this my symptoms will appear. If I let these symptoms continue, I’ll start to clench and sweat. Moreover, I am unable to talk long periods of time to people because my brain feels like it stops working. I’ll forget what I am saying mid sentence and an uncomfortable, overwhelming feeling will take over me. That being said it is very annoying and I want it to stop so bad! This never happened before I started smoking cannabis! I was the complete opposite of who I am today. I can’t even look at my parents in the eyes, nor my friends. Others have told me this is a time of transition from adolescence to adulthood and, like all transitions, is often accompanied by a degree of doubt and worry.´´

-Almost cried when i read this :frown: this is without a doubt my main PROBLEM aswell, it´s really hard to deal with since it´s triggered when i am nervous/anxious, hence social situation or where people are involved(worse when around strangers) I really can´t put anything in on this anymore cus what you said is exactly to almost 90% with what i am dealing.. I´ve been told aswell it could have to do with adolesence to adulthood.. Really wish there was a cure for this cus it´s bothering everyday life and the small things i used to enjoy.

Really wish you the best and much strength! I hope anyone has beaten or found a cure to this `stupid shit´ as i call it, cus it´s been there for too long already. Been at a point, still am. where i would rather be in a hospital for 3 months with all my bones broken, and heal from it then be stuck with this.

Again, hope it gives u some ease that you´re not the only one there with this problem :smile: much love

MarizPeace


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Offlinebirthdaysuit

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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21953333 - 07/16/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Could you link me your thread about your experience with truffles?

I’m much more positive in the way I think, and yes I act like peoples bitches, ha. I’m almost too nice, which in many ways stops me from moving forward and getting the upper hand on someone else. I was very competitive as a teenager, however nowadays I’m very passive. To live in my memories, to live in my imagination, is to live in the non-existential. And when I'm living in the non-existential, I'm missing that which is existential. Naturally one will be miserable, because they will miss their whole life. I try to live in the now which, in many ways prevents me from working efficiently. For my work I have to look into the future, it just can be too much of a burden sometimes in the arrow of time.

Also, I posted the quoted paragraph March of this year. It has been nearly 5 months and I’m feeling somewhat better. At times though I  feel like I’m on another planet. Some days I’m blissful and happy; full of energy, other days I’m completely emotionless, spaced out and anxious. Usually when I’m spaced out like this my social anxiety goes through the roof.

I struggled with spasms that materialized when I was anxious/nervous for another 2 and a half months. The feeling surfaced when I was at college in a class, where I just wanted to leave and hug a tree or get lost in composing music. The black hole like void sensation in my head has all but disappeared, it usually will surface when fight and flight response kicks in, in what my mind thinks is a stressful situation. Talking to my myself only exasperates the problem. However, I am done with school for the Spring Semester and I’m working in the summer,  when fall semester starts up the sensations:

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It has caused me to try to void my thoughts in order to block out the sensations; my brain feels as though it's trapped in a pressurized vise and my head wobbles. This has also caused me to be unable to look people in the eyes. If I do my neck will tense up and I’ll start to spasm out. I try to control my spasms by never looking up or making eye contact and resting my head on my hands. If I’m in class, I’ll distract myself by scribbling or taking notes, however if I cease doing this my symptoms will appear. If I let these symptoms continue, I’ll start to clench and sweat. Moreover, I am unable to talk long periods of time to people because my brain feels like it stops working. I’ll forget what I am saying mid sentence and an uncomfortable, overwhelming feeling will take over me. That being said it is very annoying and I want it to stop so bad! This never happened before I started smoking cannabis! I was the complete opposite of who I am today. I can’t even look at my parents in the eyes, nor my friends.




will probably resurface.

Social anxiety/stress debilitates me in the spring and fall semesters. I lose weight, feel lethargic and can not concentrate because I am so deep in my thoughts. I exercise daily but it really doesn’t seem to help that much.

I have discovered meditation which has sort of cleared my mental chatter, (obsessive compulsive disorder).

My thoughts can be intrusive, in the way that I overthink social situations to the point where I sometimes experience impending doom, sometimes I want to cry. Sometimes I’m not able to move forward because I will dwell on frustration situations for hours. That’s why Im so desperately trying to find a cure holistically. I looked into inositol for social anxiety, but I’m nervous about taking it.

It just sucks knowing how different I was two years ago. I was completely polar opposite to the person I am today.


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21953337 - 07/16/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you so much for posting. I really appreciate it!


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21953350 - 07/16/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It just really sucks that I was once extrospective and socially inclined.

NOW, I almost want to cry when I talk to strangers or one of my professors. :frown:


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21953448 - 07/16/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Also, regarding my neck. The neck tensing up and spasming will surface when I’m with a stranger or in a grocery store alone, etc. When it tenses up my breath will become faster/shorter, almost as if I’m holding it in. Impending doom will sometimes kick in, which is a terrifying sensation. Also, in regards to your recent thread I also, “can’t seem to smoke weed anymore as I used to. I feel lost in my own body, feel disconnected. Start to think BAD things, and even some times I have a panic attack. Though, a small hit can be calming, there are times where I’m praying for the high to end. I’m praying to God to Jesus, I’m not even religious, to save me from these feelings. Sometimes they will stop and go away, sometimes the fear will exasperate the sensations.

It’s like I have an alter ego, it could simply be that subconsciously I might be going down the wrong path, idk. But it is a very bad and evil feeling.

The panic attack I had whilst smoking cannabis was odd. It happened very quick. Two of my friends and I were Just chilling listening to music, when the all of a sudden song started to raise in pitch, until all I could hear was a high-pitched hum. Be it this sensation surfaced when I told myself "why do I listen to this disturbing, garbage music." Then full-blown nausea kicked in, so I turned the music down. Shortly after, I got tunnel vision and my vision became distorted, started to see a hazy red and I went completely unconscious for a few seconds. And ever since I have been anxious.

I can’t even drive like I used to. I was a mad man before my panic attack. Weaving through traffic at high speeds. Now I’m driving well below the speed limit and every little thing that happens, be it a car that stops near me, my heart skips a beat and impending doom kicks in for a few second. IT SUCCKKKKS


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: birthdaysuit]
    #21981071 - 07/22/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21946325#21946325

That's the link to my thread.

Again so much with what your saying i can relate, it sucks so bad.
I hope that someone know how to get rid of this (shit) i tried smoking again tonight with my friends, don't know if you can relate to it but everything became super awkward and i felt i did it, maybe i am overthinking everything but this happened before.

That part about alter ego doesn't sound weird at all, it's the same for me i feel like my N dad put evil into me since that trauma. I dont have another explaination for it..

Anyways, how have you been doing recently man?
Did you found anything that might help in the situation?

Cheerz, Mariz


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21981129 - 07/22/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21981022

Thread to my recent experience while smoking weed with my friends.

Though, a small hit can be calming, there are times where I’m praying for the high to end. I’m praying to God to Jesus, I’m not even religious, to save me from these feelings. Sometimes they will stop and go away, sometimes the fear will exasperate the sensations.

It’s like I have an alter ego, it could simply be that subconsciously I might be going down the wrong path, idk. But it is a very bad and evil feeling.

The panic attack I had whilst smoking cannabis was odd. It happened very quick. Two of my friends and I were Just chilling listening to music, when the all of a sudden song started to raise in pitch, until all I could hear was a high-pitched hum. Be it this sensation surfaced when I told myself "why do I listen to this disturbing, garbage music." Then full-blown nausea kicked in, so I turned the music down. Shortly after, I got tunnel vision and my vision became distorted, started to see a hazy red and I went completely unconscious for a few seconds. And ever since I have been anxious.

Indeed a calm hit made me really calm and i had fun, just suddenly when i smoked a few hits more, everyone became extremely quiet and my anxiety kicked in and everything became awkward, my self consciousness went through the roof. wish my high would end right now, i just feel really bad for the situation i think i caused tonight.


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21986444 - 07/23/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

MarizPeace said:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21981022

Thread to my recent experience while smoking weed with my friends.

Though, a small hit can be calming, there are times where I’m praying for the high to end. I’m praying to God to Jesus, I’m not even religious, to save me from these feelings. Sometimes they will stop and go away, sometimes the fear will exasperate the sensations.

It’s like I have an alter ego, it could simply be that subconsciously I might be going down the wrong path, idk. But it is a very bad and evil feeling.

The panic attack I had whilst smoking cannabis was odd. It happened very quick. Two of my friends and I were Just chilling listening to music, when the all of a sudden song started to raise in pitch, until all I could hear was a high-pitched hum. Be it this sensation surfaced when I told myself "why do I listen to this disturbing, garbage music." Then full-blown nausea kicked in, so I turned the music down. Shortly after, I got tunnel vision and my vision became distorted, started to see a hazy red and I went completely unconscious for a few seconds. And ever since I have been anxious.

Indeed a calm hit made me really calm and i had fun, just suddenly when i smoked a few hits more, everyone became extremely quiet and my anxiety kicked in and everything became awkward, my self consciousness went through the roof. wish my high would end right now, i just feel really bad for the situation i think i caused tonight.




I completely quit smoking for good, how have you been? As of recent I have tried various medicinal plants and adaptogens for my anxiety and panic. DHA/EPA fish oil capsules twice a day has reduced inflammation of my brain, I also have paired it with ALA flax oil, which is probably pointless but my head does not feel as groggy and my GABA seems to be normalized. Also, low dopamine levels can lead to depression and anxiety, hence when I smoked weed every day my mind, psychologically became dependent on the bursts of dopamine. Quitting cold turkey caused slight withdrawals and with time dopamine levels normalized. 

Furthermore, I think part of the reason why I am still having panic attacks is because I suffer from OCD and I overthink too much. For the past week I have been taking 8-18g of Inositol a day with
curcumin, which for two to three hours a day completely diminishes my anxiety, intrusive, negative thoughts and makes me a social animal again. I mean inositiol is simply a B-vitamin, I’m just a little concerned because it makes me shit bricks and I also crash at the end of the day. idk.


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: birthdaysuit]
    #21989150 - 07/24/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I recommend you try B3 - Niacinamide, as well as L-theanine. Both are very inexpensive and very effective at helping with anxiety.  Both are GABA agonists and theanine also promotes alpha wave activity in the brain similar to meditation effects. Google research on those two should yield tons of information.

On that note, I also highly recommend meditation.

Good luck man, you can recover from this. Give yourself time.


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: gornyhuy]
    #22044757 - 08/04/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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gornyhuy said:
I recommend you try B3 - Niacinamide, as well as L-theanine. Both are very inexpensive and very effective at helping with anxiety.  Both are GABA agonists and theanine also promotes alpha wave activity in the brain similar to meditation effects. Google research on those two should yield tons of information.

On that note, I also highly recommend meditation.

Good luck man, you can recover from this. Give yourself time.




I recently bought L-Theanine, took it during the day but it knocked me out and made me extremely lethargic and did nothing for my anxiety. It works well for sleep but nowhere near as good as myo-inositol.

Have yet to try a niacinamide supplement.


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: birthdaysuit]
    #22046643 - 08/05/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Im waiting for the mailman right now for an herbal smoking blend.
I might go to jail or possibly prison soon (dont ask) and ive been really on edge.
Id post a link buy dont think i can, this product was advertised very well so i took a shot in the dark.
Pm me if your want the source im sure a ton of you guys have bought shit from them.

Kratom makes me feel like superman and ime just as stimulating as its feelgood properties but is not the answer om looking for right now....

Cant wait to smoke bud again but too risky for me.


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: thizzlemaniac]
    #22049036 - 08/05/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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thizzlemaniac said:
Im waiting for the mailman right now for an herbal smoking blend.
I might go to jail or possibly prison soon (dont ask) and ive been really on edge.
Id post a link buy dont think i can, this product was advertised very well so i took a shot in the dark.
Pm me if your want the source im sure a ton of you guys have bought shit from them.

Kratom makes me feel like superman and ime just as stimulating as its feelgood properties but is not the answer om looking for right now....

Cant wait to smoke bud again but too risky for me.




Why might you go to prison?

And I have heard great things regarding Kratom! I’m just worried about its withdrawals as it possesses opiate properties. Does Kratom sedate you?

I just want a plant or drug that stimulates my brain but still lessens anxiety, instead of sedating me.


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: birthdaysuit]
    #22050028 - 08/05/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I know those shaky feels and it is a weird out of body feeling and sucks. Are there any problems or issues that you are trying to avoid? I'd go cold turkey on everything, thats the only thing that has worked for me that and was time.

Its almost like you have to re-adjust to being around a lot of people. Going to stores or malls and just being around a lot of people still makes me Stiff(If I'm high). feelsbadman

Hope it works out for you.


IDK(MY way of not sounding like a dick) sounds like you are trying to replace weed with some anti anxiety drug, but thats just me not trusting all those other drugs.

For a while just talking about panic attacks or thinking about dosing would give me the shakes. And every bong rip put me in another dimension. Shitty feeling trying to not think about certain things because you don't want to have a panic attack. Was a good couple of months before I felt no shakes.


SENDING them vibes  :happyheart:


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: Chief Kief]
    #22050317 - 08/05/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

SENDING them vibes  :happyheart:




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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: Chief Kief]
    #22050600 - 08/05/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Chief Kief said:
I know those shaky feels and it is a weird out of body feeling and sucks. Are there any problems or issues that you are trying to avoid? I'd go cold turkey on everything, thats the only thing that has worked for me that and was time.

Its almost like you have to re-adjust to being around a lot of people. Going to stores or malls and just being around a lot of people still makes me Stiff(If I'm high). feelsbadman

Hope it works out for you.


IDK(MY way of not sounding like a dick) sounds like you are trying to replace weed with some anti anxiety drug, but thats just me not trusting all those other drugs.

For a while just talking about panic attacks or thinking about dosing would give me the shakes. And every bong rip put me in another dimension. Shitty feeling trying to not think about certain things because you don't want to have a panic attack. Was a good couple of months before I felt no shakes.


SENDING them vibes  :happyheart:




So you are able to smoke again?

After my panic attack I started to smoke cannabis a month later but it was terrifying, so I had to quit cold turkey. 

"And every bong rip put me in another dimension. Shitty feeling trying to not think about certain things because you don't want to have a panic attack.”

One negative thought and I would completely lose control. My friends thought that I was purely  trying to make a scene, they just never understood how I felt, no matter what I told them. I would completely lose myself and many times hallucinate, more so than mushrooms.

I would rather eat 3.5g of psilocybin mushrooms than take one bong hit, that’s how much cannabis fucks me up.

I feel stiff and anxious when I’m NOT high in stores. I never had to deal with this sensation prior to my panic attack. It’s just a struggle for me and I’m trying not to isolate myself but sometimes I  need to.


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Re: Not myself after I Quite Smoking!! Herbal Approach to Restore Homeostasis [Re: Chief Kief]
    #22050611 - 08/05/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you!


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