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STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups
#21948682 - 07/15/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is the potential to get an STI worth a casual random hookup? I am sure most people would rather not think about such things when hooking up and I could understand with raging horny hormones how that caution might be ignored. Condoms seem to not really do shit as far as fully protecting your self, I don't think I need to bring in all the facts about sti's but 65 million people in america are infected with 20 million new cases popping up each ear.
The thought of getting herpes or any STD is frightening, about one out of every six people aged 14 to 49 years have genital herpes.
The only Real solution it seems is being in a long-term mutually monogamous relationship with a partner who has been tested and has negative STD test results; Or living a life of a forever virgin. Using latex condoms don't cover everything and as far as herpes goes are ineffective.
I would also like to mention that I am a virgin (male, calm down boys). I've never had sex before but recently I came across CL personal ads and talked to one of the women who wanted to find someone to fool around with. I've already meet her and we hit it off well enough- talked about maybe doing stuff. She's had other partners before but I don't know how many. I don't necessarily want to lose my V just because I am a V but thought I wouldn't mind four playing around with someone . Now I don't know and am much more apprehensive.
How does one have safe sex/oral sex/ sexy time? Cover themselves in clingwrap? From the sounds of it you CAN get and STD from just cuddling. I know a lot of people have sex but a lot of people also have stds apparently, to me, it isn't worth it when I can't be sure.
An While I would be ashamed of being a virgin if a lot of people knew, deep down I am proud and happy. I still feel a spark of innocence and I don't know if that's due to me being me or me being V.
Please, someone give me some valuable insight.
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: Anonymous #1]
#21949341 - 07/15/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well...you deserve some applause for meeting someone on Craigslist isn't a bot or a dude pretending to be a girl..
Otherwise...just talk to her about it? If your paranoid about it t don't think anyone is going to be able to change your mind.
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: Shining Cosmos]
#21949571 - 07/15/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Genital herpes have a negative stigma from health class most people who have it don't even know they have it the infection is that minor
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: Anonymous #1]
#21950145 - 07/16/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think asking her in a respectful way if she's been tested is the way to go, then you can weigh it out from there.
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: brokentv]
#21950228 - 07/16/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't worry too much about herpes and just use condoms. You'll be fine.
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: koraks]
#21950308 - 07/16/15 02:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The thought of getting herpes or any STD is frightening, about one out of every six people aged 14 to 49 years have genital herpes.
Those stats are a little over-exaggerated, they actually count the numbers of anybody who has had any STD's in their lifetime, ever. Since the most common STD's are chlamydia and gonorrhea and almost few people have it for very long, far from 1 out of 6 people currently is infected.
As for herpes, you usually contract that when the other person is having an outbreak. Just watch for any sores around their genitals, make sure to inspect the genitals, and you'll be fine.
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: Crystal G]
#21950362 - 07/16/15 03:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also, the majority of people have some form of hpv (there are dozens of them!) usually it's not a big issue, although the relationship between some forms of hpv and cancer is of course known. Still, the risk is pretty low even in case of infection.
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: koraks]
#21950388 - 07/16/15 03:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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koraks said: Also, the majority of people have some form of hpv (there are dozens of them!) usually it's not a big issue, although the relationship between some forms of hpv and cancer is of course known. Still, the risk is pretty low even in case of infection.
Interesting. I got the HPV vaccine when it came out, but I was still in my early 20's and it was probably too late, I'm sure I have it by now. If I had a daughter I would make sure she got the vaccine when she was like 10 years old, while she was still (hopefully) a virgin. If she wasn't a virgin by age 10 that would just be straight-up disturbing, and I would be extremely worried.
Edited by Crystal G (07/16/15 04:04 AM)
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: koraks]
#21950395 - 07/16/15 03:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I lost my virginity I got genital warts in return. Probably not what you wanted to hear. The real world
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: Crystal G]
#21950451 - 07/16/15 04:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thing is that there are dozens of types of HPV. I must admit that I overstated the incidence in my earlier post; for women in their twenties and a few of the more studies forms of HPV, the incidence rate is around 28%. It tapers off after that as most (90%) HPV infections appear to clear within 2 years. Out of the frequently occurring forms of HPV, only a few have been found to be associated with cervical cancer (and throat cancer in men). While HPV-16 and -18 infection seems to be present in nearly all cases of cervical cancer (70-90% or even 99%), the reverse isn't true: the vast majority of women with HPV never develop this form of cancer. Note that the form of HPV that causes genital warts (types 6 and 11) are not the culprits of cervical cancer.
Overall the incidence rate of all forms of HPV combined appear to be (very) high, but the mortality in the end is extremely low. A common sentiment among particularly American youths seems to be to freak out when the term HPV is dropped, while in reality, the issue is much more complex than stating that all HPV should be and can realistically be prevented. Yes, it's good to be cautious, but in reality, there isn't really that much you can do and fortunately, in the vast majority of cases, this isn't a problem either.
As far as I'm concerned, vaccination against HPV-6, -11, -16 and -18 sounds like a very good idea and is much more likely to have lasting and positive effects than safe sex practices, which are a serious hindrance to the pursuit of sexual happiness (to be really safe, one would have to abstain entirely from unprotected oral sex and/or stick with one lifetime partner who is absolutely certain to have one sexual partner throughout his/her life as well).
It's a balance between being 100% safe (which is virtually impossible) and being reasonable careful but at the same time enjoying sex. I, obviously, choose the latter. Life has its inherent risks.
Edited by koraks (07/16/15 04:35 AM)
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: koraks]
#21950632 - 07/16/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wear condoms, set caution to the wind...Profit? Seriously though life's too short to worry about it that much OP. Just dive into some warm love and keep it safe.
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: Anonymous #1]
#21951366 - 07/16/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: From the sounds of it you CAN get and STD from just cuddling.
haha wtf?
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: Sheekle] 1
#21951371 - 07/16/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Condoms suck.
Might as well beat it at that point.
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: Anonymous #3] 1
#21951414 - 07/16/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pro tip: Make sure to only get handjobs in glory holes.
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: The Doobie Dude]
#21953175 - 07/16/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Doobie Dude said: Genital herpes have a negative stigma from health class most people who have it don't even know they have it the infection is that minor
I think the fact that they increase risk of CERVICAL CANCER might also help increase its stigma for people who are in possession of that particular body part.
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While it's true, I did point out in my long post that the risk is really really small. Did you read that?
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: koraks]
#21954599 - 07/17/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should try not to worry. Lifes all about taking risks an chances. aha
as long as your not fucking a gay guy yourll be fine or transsexual
Edited by Cujllickduo (07/18/15 08:35 AM)
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: Cujllickduo]
#21955406 - 07/17/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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JustAnotherFreak said: You should try not to worry. Lifes all about taking risks an chances. aha
as long as your not fucking a gay guy yourll be fine or transsexual
thats a pretty damn ignorant statement
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: Sheekle]
#21955492 - 07/17/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Right? You need to avoid black and hispanic chicks instead as they have the highest rates of STDs.
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: MoxyOx]
#21955500 - 07/17/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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With all the snicker licking white chicks these days I'd be real careful overall.
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: Anonymous #3]
#21956875 - 07/17/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh my lord everyones done gone and dangled on dem dam doodles what is the world coming to
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Re: STI's ruin the desire for casual hookups [Re: empty space]
#21961991 - 07/18/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Friend just got an std.
went to doc
big shot in the ass cheek
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