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Is this bin ready to fruit?
    #21947349 - 07/15/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Coir/verm mixed with 3 4oz jars of myc. Been colonizing for a little over 2 weeks. Does it look ready to fruit?

Also, i have a large SGFC ill be using to fruit. Should i just pop the lid and set it in there? Or should i plop the whole 'cake' out onto some aluminum foil?

Ive been keeping aluminum foil taped up to the sides and bottom to avoid side pinning.



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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21947763 - 07/15/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Should I wait for pins to form on the surface before popping the lid? The lid hasn't been opened since I mixed the batch in a clean closet. I don't want to open the lid premature and let in contams. Ive never had a grow where my myc was 100% white from start of fruit to finish


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21947883 - 07/15/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

2nd picture I see green. No good.

I would advise against fruiting because you don't have a liner and it's not 100%. If you had a liner it would be a different story


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21947945 - 07/15/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Theres alot going on here.
For starters, you're not supposed to have your liner taped to the container:facepalm:
Its supposed to shrink with the substrate. But that's for monotubs and stuff. You are doing cakes.

I'd take the liner off when you put it in your SGFC.

Also, why is there a bare ass in that pic?


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Buck513]
    #21948006 - 07/15/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Theres no green, trust me it must be lighting or something. Its absolutely white all over besides the darkness of the coir/verm mix.

So do you guys think its ready for fruiting as a cake or is it not complete?

and cuz she was standing in the picture anyways lol.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21948046 - 07/15/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What the hell happened to her back? Is that a boil? A dermal implant? Classy Tattoo as well.....10/10 pancake ass white girl. Nice.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21948070 - 07/15/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:lolwut: I just noticed that in the first pic


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Darkhome]
    #21948165 - 07/15/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:ilold:

:lmafo:


Hold on......
I just took a second look at the pictures.....
Did you have that foil taped on the OUTSIDE of that container to serve as a liner?
Don't use foil as a liner anyway. Trash bag works just as well, probably better


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Buck513]
    #21948873 - 07/15/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It was just so no light got in just in case i decided to fruit straight from tub. Its a piercing guys not a boil lol.

so should I just plop it out as a cake? and fruit it in the SGFC?


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21948888 - 07/15/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Put the whole cake onto some foil


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Buck513]
    #21948915 - 07/15/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would Put the cake in to an aluminum or black plastic tray this is good right?


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: JohnDoeKENTUCKY]
    #21949127 - 07/15/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

IN the container? No. Just lay it on foil or something, and on a bed of perlite.

Don't make it harder than it needs to be


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Buck513]
    #21949153 - 07/15/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Isn't a cake just a mix of mycelium infested substrate? Sorry for the noob question, couldn't find this anywhere.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: JohnDoeKENTUCKY]
    #21949203 - 07/15/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Isn't a cake just a mix of mycelium infested substrate? Sorry for the noob question, couldn't find this anywhere.



I would say the word "infested" shouldn't be used to describe mycelium here. But yes.

Ok, so everyone agrees she looks ready for fruiting?


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Buck513]
    #21949532 - 07/15/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)




Also, why is there a bare ass in that pic?



Also has a really big pimple on the back.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: IISkuNkII]
    #21949793 - 07/15/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Also, why is there a bare ass in that pic?



Also has a really big pimple on the back.



If you were reading, I explained its a piercing. Called a back dermal, She's actually got 2 on her back and 3 on her right hip


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21950017 - 07/15/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ahh my apologies.I think its because its gold so it looks like a pus-infected pimple


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: JohnDoeKENTUCKY]
    #21950541 - 07/16/15 05:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I keep noticing something new every time I look at the OP.
Did you have a bunch of holes stuffed with poly all over that bowl:confused:

Quote:

JohnDoeKENTUCKY said:
Isn't a cake just a mix of mycelium infested substrate? Sorry for the noob question, couldn't find this anywhere.




Mycelium = mold = fungus = mushrooms

Its all the same.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Buck513]
    #21951120 - 07/16/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, theres holes with poly in it to let air in. explain the cons to this? I've actually got other bowls like this one but instead of poly fill I got athletic tape and used it instead


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21951529 - 07/16/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I skimmed the op but it looks like there is a big boil on your girlfriends back I'd get that checked out.

On your next one I would put a liner on the inside (apparantly light has little to do with side pinning) and maybe put one small hole in the top with poly for GE.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: newrook]
    #21951626 - 07/16/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

oh my lord, its not a boil its a piercing. I think this is the 3rd time I'm posting what that is on my girlfriends back in this thread. Although i can totally see the 'boil' if i wasn't into piercings. You can kinda start to see the outline of the other one on the edge of the picture.

I appreicate the advice on the tub though, what do you suggest I use as a liner? perhaps cut up some garbage bag? and 1 hole will be enough GE? would polyfill or athlete tape be better in this situation?


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21951650 - 07/16/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes a trash bag. No athletic tape will not work. Use micropore if you are putting tape on holes.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21952089 - 07/16/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Micropore tape is also called "Gentle Paper Tape" in the first aid aisle...I over looked it the first time cause it sometimes only says "Micropore" on the inside of the roll...Garbage bags will definitely work, but even the thick ones tear too easy IMO...I invested in some thick, black, painter's plastic...like 3mil


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21953249 - 07/16/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Yes, theres holes with poly in it to let air in. explain the cons to this? I've actually got other bowls like this one but instead of poly fill I got athletic tape and used it instead



Because you don't need/want FAE during colonization. Pointless and it'll just take longer.
You want FAE during fruiting


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Buck513]
    #21965422 - 07/19/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Alrite, i waited a few days and fruited it in a SGFC. Its one giant cake, its only been in the fruiting chamber 2 days and theres a ridiculous amount of knotting and a couple pins already showing. I have just been spraying it twice a day with a water that had a small chlorine additive to it to be healthy for my reptiles. I figured it wouldn't hurt. Or am I extremely wrong?

After misting it heavy i fan for 15-20 seconds. then i mist it very lightly, like 1 or 2 sprays indirectly before putting the lid back on.

Its great so far, anyone have anything to add? any advice?



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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21965436 - 07/19/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

More perlite (5"). More holes. Elevate it off the ground so the perlite can do its job.

Are you following the tek or just winging it??

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21965650 - 07/19/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

im not following anybodies tek, really. Ive been at it for some years now and I've tried several teks. this is my first time with a "super cake". Ive seen a few threads where people have made super cakes or bricks of myc, but most include a greenhouse which i can't afford at the moment.

Im all out of perlite, however I have another SGFC that has been fruiting some aluminum trays.  would it be possible (ethical?) to perhaps clean the perlite that was in there (some spores got on some areas of the perlite from fruits hanging over the side. ) and just re hydrate it and toss it in the bin with the super cake?


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21965677 - 07/19/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You can sterilize your perlite again with bleach, oven or PC. That way you can be sure it is clean again.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Sokamin]
    #21965710 - 07/19/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When i rinse it out after adding bleach, should I be extremely thorough or should I not worry about it since the cake won't be touching it directly anyways?


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21965768 - 07/19/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I always rinsed thoroughly, but I also don't use bleach for that anymore. I just sterilize it in the oven for 30-45 minutes, I find that  easier to do.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Sokamin]
    #21965848 - 07/19/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that does sound easier. What temp and what kind of container do you put it in? like just  baking sheet?


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21965875 - 07/19/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I put the perlite in a 3/4 liter glass lasagna bowl?(don't know the English word for that), wrap it in aluminum foil (this way no contamination gets in during cooling), I put it in the oven and preheat it at 400F/200C (takes about 8 minutes and this way the perlite in the middle is heated up as well), then I set the timer for 30 minutes at 400F/200C. Because I wrapped it in aluminum foil I don't have to worry about any contamination getting in if I don't use it right away.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Sokamin]
    #21966159 - 07/19/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

eh, I'm just going to get new perlite. one of the spent trays in there that I've been to lazy to take out has some contam riddling around.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21966173 - 07/19/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

People do WAAAAY to much for perlite


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: nobody83]
    #21966496 - 07/19/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just using new perlite is the easiest way, but he said he was all out, so I gave him some options.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: Sokamin]
    #21966868 - 07/19/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've bleached perlite before, without consulting the forum so i suppose i made the right move. but i still had issues with contams. I always have issues with contam, its usually after i put my trays/cakes in the FC. I spray and fan with the lid, which could be the issue. But isn't that necessary?


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21967780 - 07/19/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Possible contams are everywhere all the time... I doubt bleaching perlite (unless it starts growing mold itself but bleach won't really be that effective anyways) will make much difference. There is just as much contams in the air as there would be on your perlite. Your trays were probably contaminated before you put them in your FC. You should watch your technique starting over from the beginning to maybe find out the real source of the problem If you always have problems with contamination on a constant basis or at least i would. If contamination was really that big of an issue then most of us wouldn't be able to grow at all unless you had a sterile lab and stuff
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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: nobody83]
    #21967805 - 07/19/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It must be when i transfer to bulk. Or when i fan after misting. Should I stop fanning after misting?


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21967816 - 07/19/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Or when i fan after misting. Should I stop fanning after misting?




Neither one of those things is causing your contam problem


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21967971 - 07/19/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

what would you guess? I thought transferring to bulk would be the most sensitive part


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21967986 - 07/19/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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what would you guess? I thought transferring to bulk would be the most sensitive part




No. Inoculation is. Making a clean syringe or a clean plate and then getting into the jar without introducing a contam is the step where many mess up.



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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21968285 - 07/20/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

thank you for the info. Ill make sure to pay very close attention to detail during inoculation next time and see if I can pull it off. So far this super cake is spotless :smile:


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21968290 - 07/20/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So far this super cake is spotless :smile:




Great keep updating....Just wish you would take our advice on the fruiting chamber.


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21969714 - 07/20/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: nobody83]
    #21973198 - 07/20/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I took your advice, I bought a new bag of perlite and its about 3-4 inches deep with perlite now (its a long tub and the bag of perlite was small). Ill add more holes after this super cake. Its fruiting beautifully right now and I don't wanna mess with its mojo. Ill post pictures when the little baby pin heads get bigger and the knots start forming more fruits


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Re: Is this bin ready to fruit? [Re: TraxSeos]
    #21984743 - 07/23/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

alrite, I've fruited the super cake and its a success so far, no sign of contam and hella pins and knots.

I have another tub being prepared just like the one fruiting, but instead of fruiting as a super cake, i was wondering if it would be wise to break it up into a mono tub full of a coir/verm mix.

Heres some pics of the progress so far,



That tub is the one thats colonizing right now, i don't think its quite done just yet so ill give it another week.


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