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Wanting Psychosis?
    #21946508 - 07/15/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Wanting psychosis? Society tells you its bad and insane but its basically breaking through the bullshit? Thoughts on thoughts please


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: necrobytez] * 4
    #21946512 - 07/15/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

no.  psychosis is awful.  there are aspects of it that aren't too bad, but for the most part it is not a fun time.


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21946521 - 07/15/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

But its not unhealthy to experience it as an intelligent monkey?


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: necrobytez]
    #21946529 - 07/15/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

follow your heart :heart::smile:


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: necrobytez] * 1
    #21946531 - 07/15/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:facepalm:


Ever watched Shutter Island? That's psychosis, I wouldn't want that.. because you don't know what's real and what's not at that point making anything you think invalid.


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: Hayoxp] * 2
    #21946542 - 07/15/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hayoxp said:
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Ever watched Shutter Island? That's psychosis, I wouldn't want that.. because you don't know what's real and what's not at that point making anything you think invalid.




exactly.  i was engulfed into a psychosis dreamland for a few years and i was damn delusional.  the experience strengthened me for the better, but i feel truly sorry for anyone who has to live with it for the rest of their lives.  i still experience psychotic symptoms, but mostly i feel my bipolarity at work.

there is also a huge difference between psychosis and being liberated from societies constructed norms and elevating your consciousness.


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21946545 - 07/15/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hayoxp said:
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Ever watched Shutter Island? That's psychosis, I wouldn't want that.. because you don't know what's real and what's not at that point making anything you think invalid.




exactly.  i was engulfed into a psychosis dreamland for a few years and i was damn delusional.  the experience strengthened me for the better, but i feel truly sorry for anyone who has to live with it for the rest of their lives.  i still experience psychotic symptoms, but mostly i feel my bipolarity at work.

there is also a huge difference between psychosis and being liberated from societies constructed norms and elevating your consciousness.




Whats the word for an elevated conciousness? Enlightened? Psychosis and enlightment are on the 'same' spectrum in the conciousness?

The duality of psychosis/enlightment?
How to be enlightmend? Is it by living in the present moment only?


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: necrobytez] * 1
    #21946556 - 07/15/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

no enlightenment and psychosis are totally different.  when yer enlightened, you have good thoughts.  when yer psychotic, you have bad thoughts.  that's probably as simple as i can put it.


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21946562 - 07/15/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks! Kinda made sense, but because they are totally different they are still kind of the 'same'? Just the duality of conciousness?


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21946564 - 07/15/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've had pretty bad psychosis, really bad. I feared it, it made me go crazy. Nothing WAS fun about it.... but... I get very mild psychosis now and in some aspects, it is not all that bad. I embrace it and it makes me feel alive, takes boredom away :ahahaha:


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: daz01] * 1
    #21946583 - 07/15/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Try not sleeping for a few days and see if hallucinating sounds is fun, or try deliriants.
Or listen to what others have to say and be grateful for your sanity.

On the other hand being perma-fried sounds tempting.


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: Capt. Stern]
    #21946596 - 07/15/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: necrobytez]
    #21946612 - 07/15/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Wanting psychosis? Society tells you its bad and insane but its basically breaking through the bullshit? Thoughts on thoughts please



It is not breaking through bullshit.  It is a nightmare.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/the-homeless-man-who-graduated-from-harvard-law-school-with-chief-justice-john-roberts/2015/07/13/63257b5c-20ca-11e5-bf41-c23f5d3face1_story.html

If you think psychotics have a keener insight on reality than you are already psychotic.


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: necrobytez]
    #21946624 - 07/15/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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This is pretty interesting;
http://genealogyreligion.net/shamans-as-schizophrenics




yes it is, and i believe in that to an extent.  not every schizo or psychotic individual will have an experience like that.  i know some truly nutty people, and i also know some shaman like people.  i'm actually included in the shaman category, at least what i've been told by many and from my experiences.  truly psychotic individuals can't live there life normally.  their mental illness takes a huge toll on them.  the difference with shaman types is that they seem to have a different mindset, they are more grounded and have different experiences.


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: necrobytez]
    #21946826 - 07/15/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Whats the word for an elevated conciousness? Enlightened? Psychosis and enlightment are on the 'same' spectrum in the conciousness?

The duality of psychosis/enlightment?
How to be enlightmend? Is it by living in the present moment only?




Different sides of same altered states coin IMO.

Enlightenment is something to be strived for, psychosis avoided like plague.

Enlightenment entails good feels for self and humanity, laughter

Psychosis at least for me, results in rage and sobbing fits, wanting to die.


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #21946896 - 07/15/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When I was psychotic, my mind became its own hell. I have severe PTSD because of it. I see every little movement in my field of vision and I hear every tiny noise. I need a fan to fall asleep.

Psychosis is all of the worst things that could possibly happen to you all at once and more.


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: healing]
    #21946965 - 07/15/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So..
Datura = Satan. Psychosis?
DMT = God. Enlightment?


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: necrobytez]
    #21946971 - 07/15/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nah. Deliriants are not hellish, just severely disorienting.


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: healing]
    #21946996 - 07/15/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Psychosis is not fun, it isn't anything like enlightenment. It is hell in your own mind, and nothing but lies. You are even farther from the truth than this "reality" that we live in.


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Re: Wanting Psychosis? [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #21946999 - 07/15/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, you're trapped there, and you are completely isolated.


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