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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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People do dumb shit and kill others on just about anything. Especially alcohol. Even wellbutrin, the anti-D (Bupropion) is a 'bath salt' (Substituted Cathinone) that can cause violent psychosis. In Wellbutrin's case, though, they took a bath salt and took the feel good out of it to make an anti-D, and only left the side-effects.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: I think the media wants people to be misinformed, the use names like "flakka" instead of a-PvP because if you knew what it was you could obtain scientific and accurate information and make an educated decision to ingest the compound, being aware of its dose, pharmacology, and interactions with other drugs...
They want people to go nuts on scary unidentifiable things, it's more interesting "reporting", and as long as the readers are ignorant it's bound to happen again...
This article is like a modern parody of reefer madness...
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: I think the media wants people to be misinformed, the use names like "flakka" instead of a-PvP because if you knew what it was you could obtain scientific and accurate information and make an educated decision to ingest the compound, being aware of its dose, pharmacology, and interactions with other drugs...
They want people to go nuts on scary unidentifiable things, it's more interesting "reporting", and as long as the readers are ignorant it's bound to happen again...
This article is like a modern parody of reefer madness...
-E. Borodon
It's not exactly that the media wants people to be misinformed. The people who work in media want to keep their jobs, so they produce stories in a way that gets people to read and share them. Not many people will read or share an accurate piece with chemical names and an honest assessment of the dangers - if they produce such a work, their boss will be very unhappy with the revenue it generates. Much better to write something sensational, as if today's kids are on the verge of becoming a zombie epidemic of epic proportions. That sells papers / gets clicks.
They are misleading people, but the reason they are doing this is not to misinform them - that is an unfortunate side effect of their strategy, which is shared by most media outlets because it is guided by human nature.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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I understand your point, though I slightly (and respectfully) disagree...I think it is very intentional how they handle these things....
I used to study marshal McLuhan to learn how I could take advantage of media and ended up learning how media is taking advantage of me....
These reporters must report this garbage or get fired, yes? It's the owners of the company who dictate this, these owners have agendas, and use their media outlets to enact them.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
#21963820 - 07/19/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: These reporters must report this garbage or get fired, yes? It's the owners of the company who dictate this, these owners have agendas, and use their media outlets to enact them.
Why would the owners of these companies care what the public thinks about drugs?
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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so fucking on point hahah
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
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Its all about the moneyzzz and sensationalism ahhhh
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: motaman]
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http://dosemakespoison.blogspot.com/2015/05/another-day-another-flakka-story.html?m=1
Another day, another flakka story A new article centered on flakka was published on CNN.com today. And some of it just makes me shake my head. Blatant misinformation as usual in a few aspects. But like “bath salts”, a group of related synthetic drug that were banned in 2012… No. “Bath salts” weren’t banned in 2012. Three components commonly found in “bath salts” products were banned by 2012. These were MDPV, Mephedrone, and Methylone. More "bath salts" compounds, including alpha-PVP, were banned in 2014.
A small overdose of the drug, which can be smoked, injected, snorted or injected, can lead to a range of extreme symptoms: “excited delirium,” as experts call it, marked by violent behavior; spikes in body temperature (105 degrees and higher, Hall said); paranoia.
Stimulant psychosis. Not excited delirium.
Probably what has brought flakka the most attention is that it gives users what feels like the strength and fury of the Incredible Hulk.
Strength and fury? Nice, but, no, you won't be meeting this guy after taking a dose of flakka (alpha-PVP).

But it [flakka] does have one advantage over its predecessor: it has not been banned – yet.
Yes, it has. Alpha-PVP has been considered a Schedule I controlled substance since March 7, 2014. It is banned in the USA. It will probably take several years to get the data necessary to put a federal ban on flakka, he added.
No. It is currently considered a federal Schedule I controlled substance and it isn't coming off that list in any way, shape, or form.
Journalists, there are people out there that could help you, if you'd ask. Please do ask.
Cheers,
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http://dosemakespoison.blogspot.com/2015/04/flakka-in-meme.html?m=1
Who fed these puppies some Flakka?

Here's Johnny! On Flakka. Looking back at the Shining, it makes a little more sense...

Wonder if Darth Vader knew the Emperor was on Flakka?

Of course, we all knew Charlie Sheen was on Flakka. Winning!

ALL THE FLAKKA!

Say Flakka again. Say Flakka again. I dare you. I double dare you motherfucker. Say Flakka one more goddamn time!

Research Ryan wants to invite you over for some cuddling and some Flakka.

We wants it...we needs it. Must have the Flakka. They stole it from us. Sneaky little hobbittses. Wicked, tricksy, false!

Get off my lawn with that flakka!

Even Grumpy Cat weighs in on Flakka.

And finally, beware of those drop bears on Flakka. When you least expect it...

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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: motaman]
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To help present a larger picture to you all I feel it important to point out here that amphetamines and weird RCs are availabke OTC in japan where suicide is also not illegal. Do the math people.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#21983249 - 07/23/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: These reporters must report this garbage or get fired, yes? It's the owners of the company who dictate this, these owners have agendas, and use their media outlets to enact them.
Why would the owners of these companies care what the public thinks about drugs?
Because it suits their agenda or the people they answer to's agenda.
It would be pretty hard to keep these things illegal if the media was not constantly releasing these "reefer-madness" style horror stories that keep public opinion on these things murky and divided.
(Why would they want to keep drugs illegal? Because the CIA and DEA sell drugs on a global scale to fund foreign rebel armies who are fighting our enemies with out congressional approval or public knowledge...if drugs became legal global politics would never be the same...
Then we have the "non-money makers", the psychedelics, Americans are not afraid of drugs, there are drugs for sale in every gas station and super market in the United states, so it's not the drug part that scares them, with psychedelics it really is the psychedelics ability to allow people to deprogram from cultural standards and replace them with their own set of morals and cultural guidelines...this happened in the 1960s, you couldn't make being a beatnik or a hippie or anti-war into a crime, we can't criminalize cultures, so we criminalize their practices as a means of harassment and oppression...)
...Ok,back to media owners, look at Rupert Murdoch and how he uses media to enact his right-wing agenda, fuck, look at the Fox network, that's all Rupert...
...and since he has a political agenda he has political backing, so he allows distribution of their propaganda...now Rupert is not the only media owner (though he would like to be), but they all operate the same way.
Marshal mcluhan was a philosopher of media, when you see groups like Greenpeace exploit media, that's pure mcluhanism, though at the very same time you can see the media already using all these same tricks...we must take the tactics of the opposition and use them against them,but in learning how to do this i learned of how they are already employing these tactics on a mass scale...
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum] 1
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: Because it suits their agenda or the people they answer to's agenda.
What is their agenda? Why do they have that agenda?
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(Why would they want to keep drugs illegal? Because the CIA and DEA sell drugs on a global scale to fund foreign rebel armies who are fighting our enemies with out congressional approval or public knowledge...if drugs became legal global politics would never be the same...
I have not seen any recent evidence that the CIA or DEA sells illegal drugs. I have read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking, and certainly it is true that some people who have worked for the CIA have used their planes to move drugs and get rich. However I haven't seen any evidence that it is more than a few rogue agents.
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Then we have the "non-money makers", the psychedelics, Americans are not afraid of drugs, there are drugs for sale in every gas station and super market in the United states, so it's not the drug part that scares them, with psychedelics it really is the psychedelics ability to allow people to deprogram from cultural standards and replace them with their own set of morals and cultural guidelines...
Psychedelics don't actually do that.
And I don't think the US government really cares about keeping cultural standards and moral guidelines the same.
Congressmen aren't sitting around saying "These psychedelics are freeing people from our shackles - let's increase the penalties!"
It's more like "These psychedelics are a real problem for some people, we need to restrict them".
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...Ok,back to media owners, look at Rupert Murdoch and how he uses media to enact his right-wing agenda, fuck, look at the Fox network, that's all Rupert...
Fox news sucks, but that is a very small subset of the media.
Most people in the media just do their job and go home, it's not a big conspiracy to keep drugs illegal. The voters are the ones that are keeping psychedelics illegal.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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I have not seen any recent evidence that the CIA or DEA sells illegal drugs.
what I discovered is drug smuggling is like assassination. If the government isn't involved, it never seems to really happen-terence mckenna
To think CIA agents get caught dealing massive amounts of drugs are occurrences relating only to the agent and not the whole VIA is absurd
Yeah it's funny how everybody who reports on these things is discredited in the mainstream...
It's hard for me to believe you don't see any evidence that the people who have ultimate control over drugs are not the same people distributing them, Because the more I research the more I see the CIA and DEA distributing drugs, then giving the profits to dangerous rebel armies who are overthrowing the government's of our enemys. To fund these people otherwise would require congressional approval, the public would be made aware of it, and the United states would have to take responsibility when these armies turn on us...
Here's another example I did not bring up, General pao and his army was our anti-communist ally in Viet-nam and his army were notorious heroin dealers, and to.fund them the CIA began selling heroin globally.
Or during the Reagan years, the CIA sold cocaine to fund the contras, along with some other back-handed methods for going around congress to fund foreign armies which got Reagan and Oliver north in quite a bit of trouble https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking
There is no drug problem, it's an addiction problem, and the addiction is government agencies addicted to large sums of untraceable cash, the have every interest in these things being contraband
...do you really think they are fighting tooth and nail to keep these things prohibited because they care that much about public health and safety?
In the text below Mr. Mckennadiscusses his views on the issue, which I agree with 100%
I did a lot of research on an area I didn't know that much about, which is, let's say from 1500 to the present, drugs of addiction. And what I discovered is drug smuggling is like assassination. If the government isn't involved, it never seems to really happen. And governments have been using drugs for centuries as forms of secret revenue. This whole sugar thing that I laid out to you, those were decisions made by the crown heads of Europe in collusion with the Pope. It wasn't common people who set those policies in place.
During the 1960's, when the black ghettos began to come apart, suddenly number three China white heroin was cheaper and more available than it had ever been in any time in this history of the heroin problem in the United States. Why? Because the CIA saw, you know, all these black guys are getting up, a bunch of uppity niggers as the government calls them, you just smother it in heroin. Get everybody either hooked or making money...
And they don't care really about the effects of drugs, and one group, one faction will work against another. For example, I'm a great afficianado of hashish, and hashish became very hard to get in the United States in the late 70's. But as soon as the Russians invaded Afghanistan, suddenly there was massive amounts of excellent Afghani hashish, at prices that nobody had seen for fifteen years. Well, the reason was, the CIA knows that hashish is not really a problem. But what they wanted is, they wanted an income for the mujahadin. And they had to pay for all these weapons. So they just started bringing it in wholesale. And it wasn't even a smuggling operation. I mean, I received reports from people who said, you know, 'Smuggling? They're not smuggling. They're unloading it on pier 39, union local 1030 is taking off, you know, five hundred pound blocks of hashish by the tens of thousands.' And the day the Afghan war ended? They staged an enormous series of interlocking busts on their own infrastructure, and they closed it down, and they pulled it to pieces.
When Khomeni kicked out the Shah, the Iranian heroin business then fell under the control of the mulahs, and at that point, suddenly cocaine emerges as a major problem in the United States, because we just switched our supply lines. We could no longer depend on Iranian heroin, because we couldn't depend on these screwy Islamic fundamentalists, so we just turned toward all of these company assets in Honduras and Ecuador and Columbia. Very, very cynical.
You know, it's only been a hundred and twenty years since the so called opium wars. Very few people know what the opium wars, what was the issue in the opium wars. Well, it turns out the British government wanted to deal opium in China, and the Chinese Emperor told them to get lost. And they flipped. And they sent naval units, and they laid siege to several Chinese cities, and they forced the Chinese imperial court to agree that they could deal as much opium as they wanted on the wharves of Shanghai...
The Japanese, when they invaded Manchuria in the Second World War, they immediately began producing heroin and opium in vast amounts, not then as an economic strategy, but as a strategy to break the will of the Chinese population by encouraging addiction, and there was vast amounts of opium addiction. If any of you saw 'The Last Emperor,' you recall that his mistress was severely addicted to opium, and it depicted it in a number of scenes.
So governments have very cynically manipulated drugs, so that the drugs which make it possible for capitalism to function are cheap and freely available, and the drugs which erode dominator values, or cause people to question their situation, are savagely supressed.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: what I discovered is drug smuggling is like assassination. If the government isn't involved, it never seems to really happen-terence mckenna
That isn't true at all - there is a huge profit motive in smuggling drugs.
Also, anything that Terrence Mckenna said is the opposite of the truth.
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To think CIA agents get caught dealing massive amounts of drugs are occurrences relating only to the agent and not the whole VIA is absurd
Why? Are you saying that CIA agents don't like money?
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Yeah it's funny how everybody who reports on these things is discredited in the mainstream...
There hasn't been anyone reporting it recently.
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It's hard for me to believe you don't see any evidence that the people who have ultimate control over drugs are not the same people distributing them, Because the more I research the more I see the CIA and DEA distributing drugs, then giving the profits to dangerous rebel armies who are overthrowing the government's of our enemys. To fund these people otherwise would require congressional approval, the public would be made aware of it, and the United states would have to take responsibility when these armies turn on us...
The CIA has a large black budget, they would be very foolish to risk it all by selling drugs.
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...do you really think they are fighting tooth and nail to keep these things prohibited because they care that much about public health and safety?
No. It's not about public safety. It's about the will of the voters. Most people who vote want drug possession to remain a crime, and so they vote for candidates that are tough on crime.
Drugs will remain illegal until the voters decide otherwise.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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Psychedelics don't actually do that.
And I don't think the US government really cares about keeping cultural standards and moral guidelines the same.
Congressmen aren't sitting around saying "These psychedelics are freeing people from our shackles - let's increase the penalties!"
It's more like "These psychedelics are a real problem for some people, we need to restrict them"
Psychedelics don't do what?
They obviously care, if public opinion is vastly anti-government revolutions occur, why do you think LSD became illegal in the 1960s? The system saw itself literally dissolving in acid. It was changing minds, it was changing culture... the government is not afraid of drugs and neither are Americans, I made this point before, there are drugs being pushed on Americans from all directions, they are for sell at every store on every corner...so it's not the drugs that freaked them out, it was the cultural change the drugs were producing, it was changing the way people thought about and saw the world...
It's funny you say "these things were a problem for people" when the only people they were a problem for was the establishment. You can not become addicted to a traditional psychedelic, you can not become physically dependant, and due to rapid tolerance you must put 3-7 days between each use. These compound actually break habits, they don't form them. The do not cause compulsive re-dosing, or unexamined destructive compulsive behaviors. Physically these compounds are benign: As senior LSD researcher Dr. David Nichols, Distinguished Chair of Pharmacology at Purdue University and head of one of the world's top LSD research labs, stated in his 2004 review article on hallucinogens, "There is no evidence that any of the hallucinogens, even the very powerful semisynthetic LSD, causes damage to any human body organ. [...] Hallucinogens do not cause life-threatening changes in cardiovascular, renal, or hepatic function because they have little or no affinity for the biological receptors and targets that mediate vital vegetative functions.(-erowid)
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Congressmen aren't sitting around saying "These psychedelics are freeing people from our shackles - let's increase the penalties!"
In the above link is Nixon not doing just that?
Seriously, if you don't agree that's fine, but I leave again with another mckenna quote on the topic:
You see, the hidden issue, and it need not be hidden among us...the government always tries to paint itself as the mother hen, concerned about her errant chicks. And so, to keep you from crashing into other people on the freeway, to keep you from leaping out of buildings or committing society, we have to control these drugs. As a matter of fact, you know, this is absurd. More people die because of alcohol than all illegal drugs combined in a given year. The government is not your friend on this issue. The government is very concerned to control the mass mind. And marijuana -- my God, since the British Commission on Hemp, which was in 1889, I believe -- the British East India Company commissioned a study of hemp -- they have spent millions and millions and millions of dollars to find something, anything, you name it, wrong with cannabis. There is nothing wrong with cannabis. It is the most thoroughly tested, pawed over, and examined drug in human history. And they just come up with the lamest stuff. I mean, they tell you, you know, you're gonna have tits. Give me a break. They say, 'You won't be motivated in your job.' Like your job is supposed to be the (pinnacle) against which all things are to be measured.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: what I discovered is drug smuggling is like assassination. If the government isn't involved, it never seems to really happen-terence mckenna
That isn't true at all - there is a huge profit motive in smuggling drugs.
Also, anything that Terrence Mckenna said is the opposite of the truth.
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To think CIA agents get caught dealing massive amounts of drugs are occurrences relating only to the agent and not the whole VIA is absurd
Why? Are you saying that CIA agents don't like money?
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Yeah it's funny how everybody who reports on these things is discredited in the mainstream...
There hasn't been anyone reporting it recently.
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It's hard for me to believe you don't see any evidence that the people who have ultimate control over drugs are not the same people distributing them, Because the more I research the more I see the CIA and DEA distributing drugs, then giving the profits to dangerous rebel armies who are overthrowing the government's of our enemys. To fund these people otherwise would require congressional approval, the public would be made aware of it, and the United states would have to take responsibility when these armies turn on us...
The CIA has a large black budget, they would be very foolish to risk it all by selling drugs.
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...do you really think they are fighting tooth and nail to keep these things prohibited because they care that much about public health and safety?
No. It's not about public safety. It's about the will of the voters. Most people who vote want drug possession to remain a crime, and so they vote for candidates that are tough on crime.
Drugs will remain illegal until the voters decide otherwise.
Jesus, I'm not even sure how to respond to this other than saying you are totally wrong.
If you want to debate Please back up you claims with something other than personal opinion, I've taken the time to offer plenty of evidence.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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Regardless of what you think about mckenna, on these topics he was dead on, so it may help to actually read the quotes before you dismiss mckenna as "unable of telling the truth"
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: Psychedelics don't do what?
Psychedelics do not "allow people to deprogram from cultural standards and replace them with their own set of morals and cultural guidelines..."
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They obviously care, if public opinion is vastly anti-government revolutions occur, why do you think LSD became illegal in the 1960s?
No drug can cause people to have anti-government sentiments - that is beyond the scope of what drugs can do.
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It's funny you say "these things were a problem for people" when the only people they were a problem for was the establishment.
Psychedelics are rarely a problem for the establishment. I was talking about these types of problems: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3079110/Man-killed-Madison-officer-high-mushrooms.html
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Congressmen aren't sitting around saying "These psychedelics are freeing people from our shackles - let's increase the penalties!"
In the above link is Nixon not doing just that?
He sucked.
Seriously, if you don't agree that's fine, but I leave again with another mckenna quote on the topic:
Everything he says is true until he starts talking about controlling the mass mind. That's what most people don't get - it's not a conspiracy. It's just the way things are right now.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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There hasn't been anyone reporting it recently.
Bullshit, there's a huge amount of reporting because the CIA is running heroin from the middle east, just like the did in Viet nam...
I typed this into Google, http://americanfreepress.net/?p=16169 ans this was the first to come up, so people are still reporting.
I'll pull up some good reports when I have some more time
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
#21996552 - 07/25/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: I typed this into Google, http://americanfreepress.net/?p=16169 ans this was the first to come up, so people are still reporting
That article makes some vague accusations, but doesn't cite any evidence.
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travelleler
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Alan Rockefeller] 1
#22000561 - 07/26/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by travelleler (07/26/15 04:15 PM)
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