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Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong
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http://www.hngn.com/articles/109422/20150715/flakka-hallucinogenic-designer-drug-already-sold-in-several-states-fbi-warns-street-drug-is-strong-and-dangerous.htm
Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong And Dangerous
Authorities still do not know what's in the drug, but flakka has already killed 25 people in Florida and is now present in six states so far.
Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong And Dangerous Authorities still do not know what's in the drug, but flakka has already killed 25 people in Florida and is now present in six states so far.
By Rachel Cruz | Jul 15, 2015 01:10 AM EDT
Flakka Crackdown in Florida
A flakka crackdown is happening in Florida, as advised by the FBI. (Photo : Getty Images)
The synthetic designer drug flakka is already spreading in the streets of Illinois, Ohio, Texas, Kentucky, California and Florida, 10 TV reported.
The stimulant, which appear is similar to bath salts, can cause hallucinogenic effects that triggers psychotic breakdowns from its users. It leads them to become violent and suicidal.
In Florida, where the drug was first discovered, an 82-year-old grandmother was randomly killed by a man believed to be high on flakka. Several other users have also said that they could not remember what they were doing after taking the synthetic drug. A mother high on the drug abandoned her baby, while hallucinations led people have sex with trees because of flakka.
"I was completely out of my mind. I could have killed somebody. I could have killed myself," said Mike Haney from Chicago in the 10 TV report.
Authorities still do not know what's in the substance as its mixture is ever changing. Flakka can be smoked, swallowed or ingested. The chemical was already found concealed in e-cigarettes and have recently been discovered in gummi bear candies, according to CBS Miami.
The drug is sold ten times cheaper than drug cocktail Molly, according to CBS St. Louis, but the more pressing problem is that people who are buying it don't have any idea what they're in for.
"These synthetics drugs are made with chemicals that nobody knows what they are," says Bill Bergquist, the sheriff of Clay County, Fla., via Valley News Life. "And as soon as the government comes around and bans a certain chemical, well then they will go mix something else up to make a different chemical in this drug."
Florida has been made the "epicenter" as 25 deaths related to flakka were already reported. DEA Special agent Kevin Stanfill is heading the task force. "We have individuals high on flakka that are coming up to parents with their kids, trying to take their kids. They're not just getting high, they're going out and hurting other people. You don't see that with a lot of the other drugs like you are with flakka right now," Stanfill told news outlets.
Local police have been alerted by the FBI for this killer drug, which is now considered more dangerous than meth, bath salts and cocaine.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: motaman]
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"These synthetics drugs are made with chemicals that nobody knows what they are," says Bill Bergquist, the sheriff of Clay County, Fla
What fucking bullshit, lol. This is more bullshit propaganda against drugs.
"And as soon as the government comes around and bans a certain chemical, well then they will go mix something else up to make a different chemical in this drug."
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: MajickMuffin]
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That's the stupidest article I've ever read
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
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Rebelutionsssss said: That's the stupidest article I've ever read
Its the stupidest thing ive ever seen in my entire life
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: MajickMuffin]
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"Have sex with trees" are they fucking a squirrels home in the tree?
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21946052 - 07/15/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: "Have sex with trees" are they fucking a squirrels home in the tree?
Are they taking a shot at tree huggers?
Are they calling tree huggers drug users!?
Edited by MajickMuffin (07/15/15 06:50 AM)
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: MajickMuffin]
#21946114 - 07/15/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There was an article a few months back where some guy in Florida was on flakka and was trying to fuck a tree
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: azur]
#21946197 - 07/15/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow... propaganda yet stupid kids are trying drugs on the pretense they are legal... legalize the non lethal ones to stop people from dying for fucks sake!!! Simple as that!!
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: snakeskin68]
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Well the war on drugs could be won with basic economics. Supply and demand. Get rid of the demand and the supply will diminish. Education trumps prison. But then how would all the real criminals (law enforcement) make a living. It really pisses me off that cops say drugs are so bad, yet they're happy to pimp their rides with drug money.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: azur]
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cheaper than drug cocktail Molly, according to CBS St. Loui
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oh ok I ddint know molly was an admixture. Thano god for accurate reporting.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: travelleler]
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The FBI doesn't have access to a CG/MS lab?
How can they not know what it is?
(Even in the "shulgin index" sasha published the chromatography charts for most of these unknown psychedelic compounds, there's really no reason why they shouldn't know what this is...)
It bothers me when they say "we are cracking down on this compound, even though we don't know what it is..."
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: azur] 3
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azur said: Well the war on drugs could be won with basic economics. Supply and demand. Get rid of the demand and the supply will diminish. Education trumps prison. But then how would all the real criminals (law enforcement) make a living. It really pisses me off that cops say drugs are so bad, yet they're happy to pimp their rides with drug money.
You will never get rid of the demand for drugs.
They did studies on a monkey population in Mexico, these monkeys would steal resort goers alcoholic drinks, and just like in human population some were drunks, some moderately drank, and some never drank at all....every animal species is going to have interest in altering its consciousness, it's 100% natural, and to try to say there's some wrong with people who use drugs is absurd.
Society needs to accept that a % of the population is always going to want to get high, you can't change that, it's nature. Rather than saying these people have moral issues or are criminals or monsters, society is going to have to come to terms with these facts and adjust their policy accordingly, non-users are going to have to accept that people have the right to experiment with their own conscious state (so long as they are not hurting anybody in the process)
We are going to have stop having to bow our heads and hide our stashs, and say "this is who we are, this is what we do, and if that doesn't jive with your political agenda, than maybe you need to change your agenda...
To think that people will simply not want to get high at some point in the future is a fantasy, and education has nothing to do with it. It's nature pure and simple, and by our going against nature all these problems arise.
The CIA and DEA are responsible for dealing cocaine and heroin in this country and across the globe. In Viet nam General pao and our anti-communist allies were notorious heroin dealers, so the CIA began selling heroin to fund them, because congress wouldn't. Before Iran contra the same thing, the CIA is caught selling cocaine to fund the contras...anytime our government needs large sums of untraceable cash to fund armies fighting our enemy's with out congressional approval they sell dangerous and addictive drugs...the war on drugs is working as it was designed to.
Now, what about psychedelics? They are not addictive, they are not big money makers, so why ban them? As a means of oppressing and harassing undesired elements in a culture....they can't make being a hippie illegal, so they make hippie practices and otherwise harmless customs illegal, like LSD....actually when the Spanish came to the new world they didn't like the non-Christian natives, and attacked them through their plant use as well...
I use marijuana,LSD,DMT,yage,mescaline, and psilocybe fungi, I'm not hurting anybody in my practice, including myself. These compounds play a great role in my spiritual practice and are a core part of who I am. Yet the system would say it's a crime to use these compounds, even though I've been constitutionally guaranteed the right to practice my religion without the government throwing me in prison...like mckenna said "if the words life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness don't include the freedom to alter your consciousness, than the constitution isn't worth the hemp it's written on"
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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I love each an every one of your posts my man. And you're right on all counts with that post. The drug policy is fucked up in this country
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
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I am not sure psychedelics are not addictive, how do you know?
Because science has not (with its very limited research) proven them addictive psychologically?
I've seen 100s of addicted people to psychedelics, weed, pharma pills
People get addicted to just about anything
I still believe they should be free
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: ... Now, what about psychedelics? They are not addictive, they are not big money makers, so why ban them? ...
-E. Borodin
Simple. They can be abused, used to make people vulnerable. If someone was handing out LSD to kids queuing for concerts/nightclubs it would be seriously questionable.
You could criminalise the "abuse of the drug on a third party" but that's harder to prove and you're waiting until it's too late.
Essentially there are too many scumbags around to legalise psychedelics.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Nun]
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why do people keep posting about flakka?
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: rxb]
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i keep seeing more and more news about flakka.. is it really that good? Should i consider trying it sometime?
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Ogla]
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Okay FINALLY some light in the darknes, this from a government site:
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Use of a dangerous synthetic cathinone drug called alpha-pyrrolidinopentiophenone (alpha-PVP), popularly known as "Flakka," is surging in Florida
"flakka" is a nonsensical name for alpha-PVP, the shorter acting somewhat less potent brother of MDPV that lacks the methylenedioxy ring.
The asuthor of that story didnt even know what he was talking about and you just enter Flakka in Google and the first hit gives it.
Douchebag reporter.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: Okay FINALLY some light in the darknes, this from a government site:
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Use of a dangerous synthetic cathinone drug called alpha-pyrrolidinopentiophenone (alpha-PVP), popularly known as "Flakka," is surging in Florida
"flakka" is a nonsensical name for alpha-PVP, the shorter acting somewhat less potent brother of MDPV that lacks the methylenedioxy ring.
The asuthor of that story didnt even know what he was talking about and you just enter Flakka in Google and the first hit gives it.
Douchebag reporter.
Yes, Flakka is A-PVP and the author simply does not know the difference between stimulants which can induce psychosis and hallucinogenics which induce a psychedelic experience.
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Re: Flakka: Hallucinogenic Designer Drug Already Sold In Several States; FBI Warns Street Drug Is Strong [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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azur said: Well the war on drugs could be won with basic economics. Supply and demand. Get rid of the demand and the supply will diminish. Education trumps prison. But then how would all the real criminals (law enforcement) make a living. It really pisses me off that cops say drugs are so bad, yet they're happy to pimp their rides with drug money.
You will never get rid of the demand for drugs.
They did studies on a monkey population in Mexico, these monkeys would steal resort goers alcoholic drinks, and just like in human population some were drunks, some moderately drank, and some never drank at all....every animal species is going to have interest in altering its consciousness, it's 100% natural, and to try to say there's some wrong with people who use drugs is absurd.
Society needs to accept that a % of the population is always going to want to get high, you can't change that, it's nature. Rather than saying these people have moral issues or are criminals or monsters, society is going to have to come to terms with these facts and adjust their policy accordingly, non-users are going to have to accept that people have the right to experiment with their own conscious state (so long as they are not hurting anybody in the process)
We are going to have stop having to bow our heads and hide our stashs, and say "this is who we are, this is what we do, and if that doesn't jive with your political agenda, than maybe you need to change your agenda...
To think that people will simply not want to get high at some point in the future is a fantasy, and education has nothing to do with it. It's nature pure and simple, and by our going against nature all these problems arise.
The CIA and DEA are responsible for dealing cocaine and heroin in this country and across the globe. In Viet nam General pao and our anti-communist allies were notorious heroin dealers, so the CIA began selling heroin to fund them, because congress wouldn't. Before Iran contra the same thing, the CIA is caught selling cocaine to fund the contras...anytime our government needs large sums of untraceable cash to fund armies fighting our enemy's with out congressional approval they sell dangerous and addictive drugs...the war on drugs is working as it was designed to.
Now, what about psychedelics? They are not addictive, they are not big money makers, so why ban them? As a means of oppressing and harassing undesired elements in a culture....they can't make being a hippie illegal, so they make hippie practices and otherwise harmless customs illegal, like LSD....actually when the Spanish came to the new world they didn't like the non-Christian natives, and attacked them through their plant use as well...
I use marijuana,LSD,DMT,yage,mescaline, and psilocybe fungi, I'm not hurting anybody in my practice, including myself. These compounds play a great role in my spiritual practice and are a core part of who I am. Yet the system would say it's a crime to use these compounds, even though I've been constitutionally guaranteed the right to practice my religion without the government throwing me in prison...like mckenna said "if the words life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness don't include the freedom to alter your consciousness, than the constitution isn't worth the hemp it's written on"
-E. Borodin
Very well said
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