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bennylava
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One last question before I get started..
#21945286 - 07/15/15 02:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Has anyone ever had any type of trouble ordering spores in the U.S? Any type of legal trouble? I am about to order my spores, and I just thought I'd ask. I know that its completely legal to order the spores for research purposes. But as I'm sure so many of you have noticed, many law enforcement agencies aren't really all that concerned with the law. But rather, how much harassment and trouble they can give you. So I thought it a valid question. Good day.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21945424 - 07/15/15 03:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Deliveries are perfectly discreet, so long as you give no reason for suspicion you are fine. If you want to take it that extra mile you can order with bitcoins to a secure location. I seriously doubt that it is needed though.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: WindWisperer]
#21946007 - 07/15/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've never had a problem with it. When I order i try to order 5-10 syringes and stretch them out using agar and LC so i don't have to buy anymore ( I'm paranoid too ). You can also make prints of all your fruits and keep them so you don't have to ever buy anything more. In all reality you could buy one time and never have to again. If you want another strain, trade people on here at the market place.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Th3Issu3]
#21946029 - 07/15/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im paranoid about getting mine shipped to Australia too :/ Cant really find any legal documentation to tell me the legality.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Th3Issu3]
#21946036 - 07/15/15 06:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Totally fine ordering spores as they are completely legal (for microscopy) in all but like three states.
As far as I understand it's the same legality for microscopy in Australia as it is for the US.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: mushmagic]
#21946112 - 07/15/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushmagic said: Totally fine ordering spores as they are completely legal (for microscopy) in all but like three states.
As far as I understand it's the same legality for microscopy in Australia as it is for the US.
I was under the impression it absolutely was not the same, hence why all Australians around here are paranoid as fuck about ordering spores. But maybe you know better than the guy in Australia who's paranoid about it.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21946142 - 07/15/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had just used the search before editing the post to include australia as well but was in a hurry so maybe I read the wrong thing
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: mushmagic]
#21946869 - 07/15/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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spores are illegal in australia. however the drug sniffing dogs arent trained to smell cube spores and chances of a letter being stopped is slim to none. just dont order from grow-mega-psychedelic-mushrooms-from-amsterdam.nl or another stupid giveaway name like that
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: spacechildo]
#21947006 - 07/15/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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OP you will be fine, no need to be paranoid about it, but I have to admit the first time I ordered spores I felt kinda sketched out by the whole thing. And always order from a trusted vendor!!
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Psilosoulful]
#21950298 - 07/16/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you everyone for the replies. I'm in Texas, not sure what the letter of the law is here.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21950332 - 07/16/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bennylava said: Thank you everyone for the replies. I'm in Texas, not sure what the letter of the law is here.
Nope don't even worry about it dude! Get to work on some Agar too, you won't regret it! Use PastyWhytes' Agar Tek it is super simple. Like others have said this will allow you to isolate good growth, and have spores to go on forever, plus Agar just colonizes things crazy fast!
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: WindWisperer]
#21954114 - 07/16/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm afraid I don't even know what agar is lol. From a quick google search, its some kind of gellatinous stuff which comes from algae. I'm assuming people use it as some kind of mushroom super food for growing?
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21954522 - 07/17/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bennylava said: I'm afraid I don't even know what agar is lol. From a quick google search, its some kind of gellatinous stuff which comes from algae. I'm assuming people use it as some kind of mushroom super food for growing?
Pasty's Agar TEK
There is how to do it, super simple! You can then clone a fruit using Franks cloning TEK, or put a droplet of shaken up spore solution. From there you can further isolate by transferring wedges.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: WindWisperer]
#21954523 - 07/17/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah... not at all a superfood.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: WindWisperer]
#21958422 - 07/17/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bennylava said: I'm afraid I don't even know what agar is lol. From a quick google search, its some kind of gellatinous stuff which comes from algae. I'm assuming people use it as some kind of mushroom super food for growing?
Pasty's Agar TEK
There is how to do it, super simple! You can then clone a fruit using Franks cloning TEK, or put a droplet of shaken up spore solution. From there you can further isolate by transferring wedges.
At this point after all this research, I dare say I have the growing and sterilization part down. Down well enough, anyway. But some of this stuff... why would you want to isolate a strain? I mean I'm just going to order my spores, and that's it. I think you know what comes after that. Why do I need to isolate anything? Or clone anything? Is there some chance there will be anything wrong with the initial... with the first... harvest? ...Of my watermelons.
Edited by bennylava (07/17/15 10:17 PM)
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21958533 - 07/17/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you clone and isolate for consistency. working with genetics you know and not a random gene pool of billions possibilities for possible outcome!
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: spacechildo]
#21959375 - 07/18/15 05:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok yes that seems pretty clear, but why would WE do it? Are you saying that someone who was growing a certain type of mushroom, might...get some that weren't very potent? I'm afraid I still don't understand the practical application. .
You said "outcome". What type of undesirable outcome, might occur?
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21959408 - 07/18/15 06:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Because you get a syringe that has spores from a fruit body that fruited in open air. Those spores are covered in other molds. Pf tek is pretty lenient, but it isn't fool proof. Every project ever done has to be started on agar and cleaned up until it's 100% sterile and clean. With agar you can cut out a clean healthy piece, even if there's trich in it. This way you can inoculate your jars with 100% clean agar wedges.
That and clean up of clones and isolation of strains as well. Isolating and cloning will have consistently potent fruits as well as high yields. Spores can be both bunk and not potent as well as super potent. You'd prefer to clone a potent fruit with prolific yields.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21959499 - 07/18/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not gonna lie. Ever since I purchased from three different vendors, all (not most) of my packages that come to my mailbox have been ripped open. I'm about to complain to the post office.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21959830 - 07/18/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bennylava said: Ok yes that seems pretty clear, but why would WE do it? Are you saying that someone who was growing a certain type of mushroom, might...get some that weren't very potent? I'm afraid I still don't understand the practical application. .
You said "outcome". What type of undesirable outcome, might occur?
yes its all random with MS. potency, yield, everything imaginable. with iso/clones you know what to expect.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: spacechildo]
#21959997 - 07/18/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Potency, yield, speed, and whether or not there are contaminates. All things we would want to control. Unless you're fine with shooting up jars with mystery fluid you have to order off the internet repeatedly, then.. you know.. by all means.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: spacechildo]
#21961470 - 07/18/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bennylava said: Ok yes that seems pretty clear, but why would WE do it? Are you saying that someone who was growing a certain type of mushroom, might...get some that weren't very potent? I'm afraid I still don't understand the practical application. .
You said "outcome". What type of undesirable outcome, might occur?
yes its all random with MS. potency, yield, everything imaginable. with iso/clones you know what to expect.
There we go. Thank you sir. I didn't know anything about the randomness. I was thinking the vendors all strived to produce the best product possible.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21961579 - 07/18/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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As someone else said, order with bitcoin or cash so there is no record. If you are concerned with anonymity, ordering prints is safer than ordering syringes. They would literally have to see a piece of tinfoil in an envelope, open it, see what looks like some kind of artsy plant shit and know what it was. It is also less suggestive of cultivation than a syringe.
Even then it wouldn't be illegal.
A syringe is more likely to draw attention, but since it is legal in the US (iffy legality in CA, GA, ID) it doesn't really matter.
If you order prints, you will need to trust in your own sterile technique right off that bat.
Re: Genetics If you want to grow good basketball players, you could take a random sampling of children of basketball players (domesticated vendor variety multipsore) or you could clone lebron (isolation.) The latter will produce more predictably good results, if you can handle that much leadership.
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Machiavelliavore said: Re: Genetics If you want to grow good basketball players, you could take a random sampling of children of basketball players (domesticated vendor variety multipsore) or you could clone lebron (isolation.) The latter will produce more predictably good results, if you can handle that much leadership.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21962089 - 07/18/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: Re: Genetics If you want to grow good basketball players, you could take a random sampling of children of basketball players (domesticated vendor variety multipsore) or you could clone lebron (isolation.) The latter will produce more predictably good results, if you can handle that much leadership.
This fuckin analogy...

I LOL'd
But seriously, perfectly explained. Using Agar to isolate prevents you from having to order more syringes since you seem sketched out about it to begin with. A HUGE bonus is you get to isolate a cluster/mushroom you really like, and make many many more just like it.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: WindWisperer]
#21963603 - 07/19/15 06:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks again for the help. But this does raise another question for me. From what you guys are saying, I have to ask:
Have there been people who ordered prints or syringes, and their crop (of watermelons of course) just didn't have much effect? For example, did someone get some fairly lousy fruits, that while grown well and had a high yield, just didn't produce much effect? Perhaps this person (or these people) ended up having to eat 20 dried grams just to get the same effect of a good strain's 3 dried grams? How much of a discrepancy are we talking about here? I'm just trying to get a feel for how big of an issue this really is.
Edited by bennylava (07/19/15 06:29 AM)
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21963876 - 07/19/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've heard of people doing that but they're always noobs so I figure they did something wrong usually.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21963887 - 07/19/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you want you can get a more even potency by grinding it up and mixing it together. This will mix the weaker fruits in with the more potent ones blending them all together making the potency more consistent
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: mushmagic]
#21963906 - 07/19/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushmagic said: If you want you can get a more even potency by grinding it up and mixing it together. This will mix the weaker fruits in with the more potent ones blending them all together making the potency more consistent
I notice you say "More potency" and then follow up by saying "making the potency more consistent".
So.... If he ground up potent ones, in his left hand, with less potent ones, in his right hand, wouldn't it be "less potent" than if he had just eaten the ones in his left hand?
I would never recommend grinding up mushrooms unless you're minutes away from consuming them, and then, at that point, what does it matter if you grind them together, if you're eating the exact same mushrooms you would otherwise be eating?
Grinding rapidly expedites oxidation, btw, which is my reasoning for jumping on this like I did. It also rapidly increases the rate of absorption in your system, which may or may not have led to the confusion that inspired the post I'm replying to in the first place. It certainly won't make anything more potent though, it just might make it seem that way.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21963950 - 07/19/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I said "more even" potency.
Also said to mix them together not keep them seperate (not that you'd even be able to determine the potency by physical appearance anyway)
Also as long as theyre stored properly and in a timely manner they likely wont lose too much as long as youre not exposing to oxygen for extended periods of time.
EDIT; I was also referring to more than just a single dose of fruits that are from MS considering it can vary so drastically from fruit to fruit so this can help give everyone an even dose.
Pretty much like making one big pot of tea for multiple people so everyones getting right about the same dose.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: mushmagic]
#21964182 - 07/19/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you were doing that and you were smart you'd have ground them all up anyway for that. 
I just don't think it's a good idea to grind your whole stash.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21964717 - 07/19/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was just using the tea part as an example as to wat I meant by grinding up multiple doses because it generally has the same effect in evening out the doses per person.
My bad I wasnt trying to recommend grinding an entire stash either but rather just wat you will be using at that point.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: mushmagic]
#21966962 - 07/19/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So to be clear, there have been people that have ordered their (watermelon seeds) and have grown them, and eaten 5 dried grams, and got no effect? I'm still trying to garner what the odds are that I'll get a lousy crop that has very little potency.
Is that even possible? Or is it far more likely, that if I ate 5 dried grams of stuff that I ordered and grew, (of watermelons) that I'd be completely satisfied with their potency?
I'm using the 5 dried grams only as an example. Because people who consume that much at once, almost always report the same "experience".
So is this something I should be worried about? That my fruits won't be all that potent?
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
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No, it's not likely you'll have a bunk experience. Just pick a domesticated variety. It will likely have less crazy fluctuations in potency and grow more reliably.
I'd guess eating 5g and not having an experience would mostly be due to unhealthy grows where the mycellium is struggling to stay alive let alone produce frivolous chemicals in its fruit bodies.
An isolate could be more bunk, but since you're using multispore, you're potency should be right around the middle of the distribution curve of potencies.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: moehd]
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Watermelons aren't psychoactive. So you probably wouldn't feel anything. If we're talking about the illegal psilocybe mushrooms that you're growing, then there's a good chance those will be psychoactive. The watermelon joke isn't fooling anybody though, this is the wrong forum for that even if it did.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21972907 - 07/20/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Watermelons aren't psychoactive. So you probably wouldn't feel anything. If we're talking about the illegal psilocybe mushrooms that you're growing, then there's a good chance those will be psychoactive. The watermelon joke isn't fooling anybody though, this is the wrong forum for that even if it did.
Um, no. Its not a joke. I got warned by a mod to stop talking about ordering from vendors, and then growing. Please read the rules. Its forbidden. So you go ahead and go do whatever the f*ck you want, I'm going to avoid another warning and possible ban.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
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Inocuole said: Watermelons aren't psychoactive. So you probably wouldn't feel anything. If we're talking about the illegal psilocybe mushrooms that you're growing, then there's a good chance those will be psychoactive. The watermelon joke isn't fooling anybody though, this is the wrong forum for that even if it did.
Um, no. Its not a joke. I got warned by a mod to stop talking about ordering from vendors, and then growing. Please read the rules. Its forbidden. So you go ahead and go do whatever the f*ck you want, I'm going to avoid another warning and possible ban.
Just go ahead and talk about what you are really doing, mention it came from a sponsor, but don't mention who. Seems to be what everyone does.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: WindWisperer]
#21974300 - 07/21/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously? Because you fucked up and said a vendor name you're going on this watermelon spree? I've never seen somebody interpret a warning that way, that cracks me up.

I must be in big trouble. I grow a whole lot of illegal mushrooms. They're illegal. So is having pounds of them. So is growing them, but I do those things and discuss them anyway. Here's some photo evidence.
  
Come get me mods.
See? Nothing.
You never wondered how EVERYONE else gets to post pictures without warnings?
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
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Seriously? You never wondered why it says do not mention growing and vendors together? I notice in your big sarcasm post you didn't do that. Go ahead and do it. I dare ya.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21977135 - 07/21/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I got the albino a+ spores that produced those mushrooms from a vendor. I'm just going to tactically not say which one.
That's the hitch. That's the one single hitch, and is why it's a very easy rule to follow.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21977185 - 07/21/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21977264 - 07/21/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I got lost at watermelons. OP, Just find an active user with an Australian flag near his name and ask him for a print. Or just order some and you'll still be fine. Or go to marketplace and try and get one. Or Just start PMing random people with the little green M's by their names or "trusted cultivator" under their names and ask them for mushroom seeds. Somebody will hook it up and your grow will rattle the cosmos. Make moves, keep your mouth shut round town bout growing, and ask questions later!
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21977383 - 07/21/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bennylava said: Seriously? You never wondered why it says do not mention growing and vendors together? I notice in your big sarcasm post you didn't do that. Go ahead and do it. I dare ya.
inocuole you made me laugh so hard with your post! Those are some sexy albinos.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Psilopsychic]
#21977470 - 07/21/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have never had any issues whatsoever, and I've been doing so for years. You should be fine, but I can totally understand your concern.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21977654 - 07/21/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Come get me mods.
See? Nothing.
you sure?
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21977676 - 07/21/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21977677 - 07/21/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't say sponsor, I said vendor. Buuuuut if you want I can make your job fun by flagging every post where someone says the word "vendor". That sounds like a hoot.
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3. Spores are sold for microscopy use only so mycologists can ID mushrooms. If you're going to misuse them to grow a controlled substance, keep it to yourself. Any post which mentions 'such and such' vendor, will be deleted and you'll receive an official warning. Do not plug non sponsors.
No such and such, no ban.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21978991 - 07/22/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What'd I tell ya...
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21979007 - 07/22/15 05:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Seriously? Because you fucked up and said a vendor name you're going on this watermelon spree? I've never seen somebody interpret a warning that way, that cracks me up.

I must be in big trouble. I grow a whole lot of illegal mushrooms. They're illegal. So is having pounds of them. So is growing them, but I do those things and discuss them anyway. Here's some photo evidence.
  
Come get me mods.
See? Nothing.
You never wondered how EVERYONE else gets to post pictures without warnings?
the balls on this guy
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21979361 - 07/22/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bennylava said: What'd I tell ya...
You mean you blew the whistle on my post and it still didn't get edited nor did I receive any disciplinary action? What are you getting at?
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21979658 - 07/22/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole is funny guy
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: nobody83]
#21979771 - 07/22/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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All we want is for you to talk about your grows normally, I really didn't mean for it to devolve into whatever this is. I'm not posting my shit to show it off, it's specifically to show you how blatant you can be about what you're doing while still following community rules. You even helped prove it by apparently reporting it, or else I seriously doubt Pris 1 would've showed up to poke fun at me. If you didn't I apologize for assuming, it's just not my first rodeo around here and these assumptions are usually correct.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21992187 - 07/24/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh no absolutely not. I never report anyone.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21992212 - 07/24/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bennylava
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21992237 - 07/24/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mean you seem to be a complete fucking idiot and an absolute troll, but other than that, no. Now lets see, where is that ignore button..never got around to that.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21992244 - 07/24/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh go ahead so I can troll your threads without you seeing. That's the best. Then you can be a moron and you won't even have the wherewithal to defend yourself. Be wrong all day.
Have fun with your watermelons.
But no, I'm the idiot.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21992250 - 07/24/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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not another ignorer..
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21992256 - 07/24/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There we go, MUCH better. Hmm it seems like you can't even see it when people quote them... nice! Pat on the back to whoever coded that. I bet you're talking shit right now lol. Some mushroom user. Most people actually seem to learn a thing or two, from their experiences.
Edited by bennylava (07/24/15 08:10 PM)
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Mad Season]
#21992260 - 07/24/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah he's even dumber than the usual breed, so I'm sure he'll have to ignore more than just me if he wants to live the peaceful life of ignorance he's after.
People are still going to respond to the stuff I say in your threads, so have fun with that. You can be wrong in your own world of artificial silence.
Edited by Inocuole (07/24/15 08:17 PM)
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21992276 - 07/24/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Yeah he's even dumber than the usual breed, so I'm sure he'll have to ignore more than just me if he wants to live the peaceful life of ignorance he's after.
Quote this and remove my name to show him he's a fucking twit.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Mad Season]
#21992433 - 07/24/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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He probably doesn't even know his thread is on page 4. Can you imagine? Being a page behind everyone else? Not even knowing what's being talked about?
The fact that he couldn't even correctly interpret a basic rule and calls me the idiot for proving how it works to him because it actually hurt his pride that badly is sad. If he just said "Okay okay I get it you can cool off now" everything would've been gravy. People these days literally have no coping skills and it's actually a tragedy.
I'm no Pasty or cron but straight up making it so none of my posts exist is still a bad move for any noob trying to figure out how shit works.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21992580 - 07/24/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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gee willikers, that escalated quickly
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21992607 - 07/24/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bennylava said: I mean you seem to be a complete fucking idiot and an absolute troll, but other than that, no. Now lets see, where is that ignore button..never got around to that.
I am glad to be back thank you..
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: cronicr]
#21992628 - 07/24/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well this went downhill quick...
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: taGyo]
#21992657 - 07/24/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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But then it goes uphill again every time I post, right?
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#21992665 - 07/24/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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only if you want it to....
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: cronicr]
#21992678 - 07/24/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If I had my way, this thread would go uphill both ways. In the snow.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
#21992695 - 07/24/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bennylava said: So to be clear, there have been people that have ordered their (watermelon seeds) and have grown them, and eaten 5 dried grams, and got no effect? I'm still trying to garner what the odds are that I'll get a lousy crop that has very little potency.
Is that even possible? Or is it far more likely, that if I ate 5 dried grams of stuff that I ordered and grew, (of watermelons) that I'd be completely satisfied with their potency?
I'm using the 5 dried grams only as an example. Because people who consume that much at once, almost always report the same "experience".
So is this something I should be worried about? That my fruits won't be all that potent?
For what it's worth watermelons aren't psychoactive. You probably wouldn't feel anything. If we're talking about the illegal psilocybe mushrooms that you're growing, then there's a good chance those will be psychoactive. The watermelon joke ain't fooling anybody though, this is the wrong forum for that even if it did.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bodhisatta]
#21992701 - 07/24/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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bennylava said: So to be clear, there have been people that have ordered their (watermelon seeds) and have grown them, and eaten 5 dried grams, and got no effect? I'm still trying to garner what the odds are that I'll get a lousy crop that has very little potency.
Is that even possible? Or is it far more likely, that if I ate 5 dried grams of stuff that I ordered and grew, (of watermelons) that I'd be completely satisfied with their potency?
I'm using the 5 dried grams only as an example. Because people who consume that much at once, almost always report the same "experience".
So is this something I should be worried about? That my fruits won't be all that potent?
For what it's worth watermelons aren't psychoactive. You probably wouldn't feel anything. If we're talking about the illegal psilocybe mushrooms that you're growing, then there's a good chance those will be psychoactive. The watermelon joke ain't fooling anybody though, this is the wrong forum for that even if it did.
I addressed this so hard, just wait until you get to it.
Hey cron, is there anything rule-wise that would keep me from being able to reply to people's posts in a thread where the owner doesn't want me there, in mush cult? As long as I'm not outright breaking the flow of the conversation or bumping the thread repeatedly(without at least one post by someone else in between), or being an actual douche, I pretty much have the freedom to make points as I please right?
edit: just realized that was my post you quoted without quotes. I'm leaving my reaction there because it's kinda funny though.
Edited by Inocuole (07/24/15 09:45 PM)
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#22054041 - 08/06/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey y'all let's talk about fungus.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#22054062 - 08/06/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Hey y'all let's talk about fungus.
I did that cus I saw the OPs reaction to yours so I just changed a few words since it was so on point.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bodhisatta]
#22054074 - 08/06/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I didn't even recognize it as something I said. Enough so that I basically indirectly referred you to the post you modeled it after. Highness at it's finest.
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#22054085 - 08/06/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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there is no rule to say your not allowed to post, you're not allowed to post when i remove ya
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: cronicr]
#22054094 - 08/06/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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should change your username to CronicRR
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Inocuole
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: cronicr]
#22054141 - 08/06/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dunno, I think this guy really needs some guidance with his watermelons, he's just too afraid to ask now, you know? I don't know that removing me would be conducive to his success. At very worst, he can't even see me to say I'm being disruptive. What if now is the time that I really drop some gold in here? Who would it benefit to deny us that opportunity?
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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
#22071932 - 08/10/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey bud I thought I'd post my coir tek in here for some extra exposure. I'm sure it could help you in your endeavors! Plus if I post it here, it's far less likely to be barraged by needless bickering. Enjoy!
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Inocuole said: "Wait,"
"A coir tek, but why?", you might find yourself asking. "Don't we all already know how to do coir?", you continue to ponder aloud, with each question only giving rise to a myriad of others in a harmonized union of confusion and intrigue that leaves your heart racing. Luckily your suspense is not without reprieve!
Why yes, my fine friends, acquaintances, eager learners, and awkward relatives, we are most assuredly experiencing an abundance of similar information, and therein lies the problem.
If you started growing by learning coir then you probably learned the bucket tek. It's a good tek. It gets the job done and it's straightforward. But what the bucket tek isn't, is neither proper pasteurization nor proper sterilization. You probably think I'm going to start talking about how this tek is at least one of those. Well, what I'm actually going to do is ask, if many are willing to say fuck it and do the bucket, why stop the fuck it there?
This tek isn't unique. It's probably not proper anything. I'm posting it because it works with coir and because the monogamous relationship people have with their tried and true methods is about to get freaky deaky.
If you're adamant about being technical, this is closer to sterilization than pasteurization.
            
You'll need:
-650g brick of coir (or 650 grams of dry coir in any shape you can imagine, be creative) -Oven bags (mine appear to be for baking turkeys) -Vermiculite (~2 quarts) -Gypsum (optional) -You know, normal stuff? A stove and oven, pot to boil water? Maybe some towels or rags. -Fuck the list format, let's get to the point, clock's a tickin.
Do the thing:
Here's some options for you, do it however you want:
0.(optional) If you have a flathead screwdriver you can use it to wedge the brick into a few pieces which will help it hydrate more easily and evenly. Just less work later on.
1.a If you have a 5gal bucket, put your oven bag in there like it's a trash liner, then drop your brick inside 1.b If you don't have a bucket, and you do have a big metal sink, you can put the brick in the oven bag and put that in the empty sink. 1.c Don't have a sink? What is wrong with you? Put the bag with the brick in it in the bathtub. You have one of those right?
2. Dump in 2.5 quarts of verm, or however much you want, just try to stay between 1 and 4. I always eyeball it. You can always add more later, right out of the bag, if it seems too wet.
3. Boil 4.5 quarts of water, add 1/4 cup of gypsum(either pellets or powder) to the water while it's boiling, give it a quick stir so there's nothing stuck to the bottom, and pour it all directly into the bag, onto the coir/verm preferably. The bucket method has this the easiest, while the bathtub is probably the hardest(don't burn yourself). The oven bags come with ties, you want to get most of the hot air out, twist it up, and tie up the bag while it's still hot.
4. Now that you have a tied up bag full of hot ass water and substrate, take some hand towels or gloves and try to mix the bag up a little bit. The goal is just to eliminate those dry clumps of coir and get everything broken up and hydrated. This isn't really necessary but I feel like it helps everything work a bit better if you do. Release all the hot air and re-tie the bag before continuing.
5. Take a rack out of your oven if necessary, and lay the oven bag in there so that it's not touching any of the sides, just sitting on the rack in the middle.
6. Dial the oven to 200 and leave it for about 80 minutes. Turn the oven off and let it do a bit of its cooling in there, (another hour is good) then take it out and let it cool out on the counter or floor or wherever until you can handle it comfortably.
7. Dispense it out of the bag as needed, if you have leftovers, just close up the bag and use them when needed, since coir stores so well you can keep it that way for at least a week or two without there being a need to re-treat the coir. I generally put about 6 quarts of grain to each brick of coir. You know how it goes, mix it up evenly, get it nice and flat.
Now you's dids it!
The bags can usually be reused at least 3-4 times before they start to feel a little stiff/weak. The logic is that the coir is already hot from the boiling water, so the problem of the core temperature taking too long to reach in the oven becomes a non-issue when the substrate is already in range of the target temperature prior to treatment, and with it having been placed in an environment hotter than the target temperature, the possibility of insufficient heat treatment is not a concern. If anything over than CVG(Coir, Verm, Gypsum) is used for this it'll fail, but I find that it suits my needs perfectly and leaves no room for error.
Now we're cooking with gas!
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