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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
    #21992276 - 07/24/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah he's even dumber than the usual breed, so I'm sure he'll have to ignore more than just me if he wants to live the peaceful life of ignorance he's after.

Quote this and remove my name to show him he's a fucking twit.

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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Mad Season]
    #21992433 - 07/24/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

He probably doesn't even know his thread is on page 4.  Can you imagine?  Being a page behind everyone else?  Not even knowing what's being talked about?

The fact that he couldn't even correctly interpret a basic rule and calls me the idiot for proving how it works to him because it actually hurt his pride that badly is sad.  If he just said "Okay okay I get it you can cool off now" everything would've been gravy.  People these days literally have no coping skills and it's actually a tragedy.

I'm no Pasty or cron but straight up making it so none of my posts exist is still a bad move for any noob trying to figure out how shit works.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
    #21992580 - 07/24/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

gee willikers, that escalated quickly:lol:


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
    #21992607 - 07/24/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I mean you seem to be a complete fucking idiot and an absolute troll, but other than that, no. Now lets see, where is that ignore button..never got around to that.



I am glad to be back thank you..:likeaboss:


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: cronicr]
    #21992628 - 07/24/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well this went downhill quick...


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: taGyo]
    #21992657 - 07/24/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

But then it goes uphill again every time I post, right?


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
    #21992665 - 07/24/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

only if you want it to....


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: cronicr]
    #21992678 - 07/24/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If I had my way, this thread would go uphill both waysIn the snow.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
    #21992695 - 07/24/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So to be clear, there have been people that have ordered their (watermelon seeds) and have grown them, and eaten 5 dried grams, and got no effect? I'm still trying to garner what the odds are that I'll get a lousy crop that has very little potency.

Is that even possible? Or is it far more likely, that if I ate 5 dried grams of stuff that I ordered and grew, (of watermelons) that I'd be completely satisfied with their potency?

I'm using the 5 dried grams only as an example. Because people who consume that much at once, almost always report the same "experience".

So is this something I should be worried about? That my fruits won't be all that potent?




For what it's worth watermelons aren't psychoactive.  You probably wouldn't feel anything.  If we're talking about the illegal psilocybe mushrooms that you're growing, then there's a good chance those will be psychoactive.  The watermelon joke ain't fooling anybody though, this is the wrong forum for that even if it did.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21992701 - 07/24/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So to be clear, there have been people that have ordered their (watermelon seeds) and have grown them, and eaten 5 dried grams, and got no effect? I'm still trying to garner what the odds are that I'll get a lousy crop that has very little potency.

Is that even possible? Or is it far more likely, that if I ate 5 dried grams of stuff that I ordered and grew, (of watermelons) that I'd be completely satisfied with their potency?

I'm using the 5 dried grams only as an example. Because people who consume that much at once, almost always report the same "experience".

So is this something I should be worried about? That my fruits won't be all that potent?




For what it's worth watermelons aren't psychoactive.  You probably wouldn't feel anything.  If we're talking about the illegal psilocybe mushrooms that you're growing, then there's a good chance those will be psychoactive.  The watermelon joke ain't fooling anybody though, this is the wrong forum for that even if it did.




I addressed this so hard, just wait until you get to it.

Hey cron, is there anything rule-wise that would keep me from being able to reply to people's posts in a thread where the owner doesn't want me there, in mush cult?  As long as I'm not outright breaking the flow of the conversation or bumping the thread repeatedly(without at least one post by someone else in between), or being an actual douche, I pretty much have the freedom to make points as I please right?


edit: just realized that was my post you quoted without quotes. :lol:  I'm leaving my reaction there because it's kinda funny though.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22054041 - 08/06/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hey y'all let's talk about fungus.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22054062 - 08/06/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey y'all let's talk about fungus.



I did that cus I saw the OPs reaction to yours so I just changed a few words since it was so on point. :rofl:


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22054074 - 08/06/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I didn't even recognize it as something I said.  Enough so that I basically indirectly referred you to the post you modeled it after. :lol:  Highness at it's finest.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22054085 - 08/06/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

there is no rule to say your not allowed to post, you're not allowed to post when i remove ya


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: cronicr]
    #22054094 - 08/06/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

should change your username to CronicRR


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: cronicr]
    #22054141 - 08/06/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno, I think this guy really needs some guidance with his watermelons, he's just too afraid to ask now, you know?  I don't know that removing me would be conducive to his success.  At very worst, he can't even see me to say I'm being disruptive. :shrug:  What if now is the time that I really drop some gold in here?  Who would it benefit to deny us that opportunity?


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22071932 - 08/10/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hey bud I thought I'd post my coir tek in here for some extra exposure.  I'm sure it could help you in your endeavors!  Plus if I post it here, it's far less likely to be barraged by needless bickering.  Enjoy!


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"Wait,"

"A coir tek, but why?", you might find yourself asking. "Don't we all already know how to do coir?", you continue to ponder aloud, with each question only giving rise to a myriad of others in a harmonized union of confusion and intrigue that leaves your heart racing.  Luckily your suspense is not without reprieve!

Why yes, my fine friends, acquaintances, eager learners, and awkward relatives, we are most assuredly experiencing an abundance of similar information, and therein lies the problem.

If you started growing by learning coir then you probably learned the bucket tek.  It's a good tek.  It gets the job done and it's straightforward.  But what the bucket tek isn't, is neither proper pasteurization nor proper sterilization.  You probably think I'm going to start talking about how this tek is at least one of those.  Well, what I'm actually going to do is ask, if many are willing to say fuck it and do the bucket, why stop the fuck it there?

This tek isn't unique.  It's probably not proper anything.  I'm posting it because it works with coir and because the monogamous relationship people have with their tried and true methods is about to get freaky deaky.

If you're adamant about being technical, this is closer to sterilization than pasteurization.

:nyan::nyan::nyan::nyan::nyan::nyan::nyan::nyan::nyan::nyan::nyan::nyan::nyan:

You'll need:

-650g brick of coir (or 650 grams of dry coir in any shape you can imagine, be creative)
-Oven bags (mine appear to be for baking turkeys)
-Vermiculite (~2 quarts)
-Gypsum (optional)
-You know, normal stuff?  A stove and oven, pot to boil water?  Maybe some towels or rags.
-Fuck the list format, let's get to the point, clock's a tickin.



Do the thing:

Here's some options for you, do it however you want:

0.(optional) If you have a flathead screwdriver you can use it to wedge the brick into a few pieces which will help it hydrate more easily and evenly.  Just less work later on.

1.a If you have a 5gal bucket, put your oven bag in there like it's a trash liner, then drop your brick inside
1.b If you don't have a bucket, and you do have a big metal sink, you can put the brick in the oven bag and put that in the empty sink.
1.c Don't have a sink?  What is wrong with you?  Put the bag with the brick in it in the bathtub.  You have one of those right?


2. Dump in 2.5 quarts of verm, or however much you want, just try to stay between 1 and 4.  I always eyeball it.  You can always add more later, right out of the bag, if it seems too wet.

3.  Boil 4.5 quarts of water, add 1/4 cup of gypsum(either pellets or powder) to the water while it's boiling, give it a quick stir so there's nothing stuck to the bottom, and pour it all directly into the bag, onto the coir/verm preferably.  The bucket method has this the easiest, while the bathtub is probably the hardest(don't burn yourself).  The oven bags come with ties, you want to get most of the hot air out, twist it up, and tie up the bag while it's still hot.

4. Now that you have a tied up bag full of hot ass water and substrate, take some hand towels or gloves and try to mix the bag up a little bit.  The goal is just to eliminate those dry clumps of coir and get everything broken up and hydrated.  This isn't really necessary but I feel like it helps everything work a bit better if you do.  Release all the hot air and re-tie the bag before continuing.

5. Take a rack out of your oven if necessary, and lay the oven bag in there so that it's not touching any of the sides, just sitting on the rack in the middle.

6. Dial the oven to 200 and leave it for about 80 minutes.  Turn the oven off and let it do a bit of its cooling in there, (another hour is good) then take it out and let it cool out on the counter or floor or wherever until you can handle it comfortably.

7. Dispense it out of the bag as needed, if you have leftovers, just close up the bag and use them when needed, since coir stores so well you can keep it that way for at least a week or two without there being a need to re-treat the coir.  I generally put about 6 quarts of grain to each brick of coir.  You know how it goes, mix it up evenly, get it nice and flat.

Now you's dids it!

The bags can usually be reused at least 3-4 times before they start to feel a little stiff/weak.  The logic is that the coir is already hot from the boiling water, so the problem of the core temperature taking too long to reach in the oven becomes a non-issue when the substrate is already in range of the target temperature prior to treatment, and with it having been placed in an environment hotter than the target temperature, the possibility of insufficient heat treatment is not a concern.  If anything over than CVG(Coir, Verm, Gypsum) is used for this it'll fail, but I find that it suits my needs perfectly and leaves no room for error. 






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