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One last question before I get started..
    #21945286 - 07/15/15 02:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Has anyone ever had any type of trouble ordering spores in the U.S? Any type of legal trouble? I am about to order my spores, and I just thought I'd ask. I know that its completely legal to order the spores for research purposes. But as I'm sure so many of you have noticed, many law enforcement agencies aren't really all that concerned with the law. But rather, how much harassment and trouble they can give you. So I thought it a valid question. Good day.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
    #21945424 - 07/15/15 03:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Deliveries are perfectly discreet, so long as you give no reason for suspicion you are fine. If you want to take it that extra mile you can order with bitcoins to a secure location. I seriously doubt that it is needed though.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21946007 - 07/15/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've never had a problem with it. When I order i try to order 5-10 syringes and stretch them out using agar and LC so i don't have to buy anymore ( I'm paranoid too ). You can also make prints of all your fruits and keep them so you don't have to ever buy anything more. In all reality you could buy one time and never have to again. If you want another strain, trade people on here at the market place.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Th3Issu3]
    #21946029 - 07/15/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Im paranoid about getting mine shipped to Australia too :/ Cant really find any legal documentation to tell me the legality.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Th3Issu3]
    #21946036 - 07/15/15 06:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Totally fine ordering spores as they are completely legal (for microscopy) in all but like three states.

As far as I understand it's the same legality for microscopy in Australia as it is for the US.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: mushmagic]
    #21946112 - 07/15/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Totally fine ordering spores as they are completely legal (for microscopy) in all but like three states.

As far as I understand it's the same legality for microscopy in Australia as it is for the US.




I was under the impression it absolutely was not the same, hence why all Australians around here are paranoid as fuck about ordering spores.  But maybe you know better than the guy in Australia who's paranoid about it.  :shrug:


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Inocuole]
    #21946142 - 07/15/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I had just used the search before editing the post to include australia as well but was in a hurry so maybe I read the wrong thing:shrug:


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: mushmagic]
    #21946869 - 07/15/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

spores are illegal in australia. however the drug sniffing dogs arent trained to smell cube spores
and chances of a letter being stopped is slim to none. just dont order from grow-mega-psychedelic-mushrooms-from-amsterdam.nl or another stupid giveaway name like that :tongue2:


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: spacechildo]
    #21947006 - 07/15/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OP you will be fine, no need to be paranoid about it, but I have to admit the first time I ordered spores I felt kinda sketched out by the whole thing. And always order from a trusted vendor!! :thumbup:


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #21950298 - 07/16/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you everyone for the replies. I'm in Texas, not sure what the letter of the law is here.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
    #21950332 - 07/16/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Thank you everyone for the replies. I'm in Texas, not sure what the letter of the law is here.




Nope don't even worry about it dude! Get to work on some Agar too, you won't regret it! Use PastyWhytes' Agar Tek it is super simple. Like others have said this will allow you to isolate good growth, and have spores to go on forever, plus Agar just colonizes things crazy fast!


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21954114 - 07/16/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm afraid I don't even know what agar is lol. From a quick google search, its some kind of gellatinous stuff which comes from algae. I'm assuming people use it as some kind of mushroom super food for growing?


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
    #21954522 - 07/17/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm afraid I don't even know what agar is lol. From a quick google search, its some kind of gellatinous stuff which comes from algae. I'm assuming people use it as some kind of mushroom super food for growing?




Pasty's Agar TEK

There is how to do it, super simple! You can then clone a fruit using Franks cloning TEK, or put a droplet of shaken up spore solution. From there you can further isolate by transferring wedges.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21954523 - 07/17/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah... not at all a superfood.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21958422 - 07/17/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm afraid I don't even know what agar is lol. From a quick google search, its some kind of gellatinous stuff which comes from algae. I'm assuming people use it as some kind of mushroom super food for growing?




Pasty's Agar TEK

There is how to do it, super simple! You can then clone a fruit using Franks cloning TEK, or put a droplet of shaken up spore solution. From there you can further isolate by transferring wedges.





At this point after all this research, I dare say I have the growing and sterilization part down. Down well enough, anyway. But some of this stuff... why would you want to isolate a strain? I mean I'm just going to order my spores, and that's it. I think you know what comes after that. Why do I need to isolate anything? Or clone anything? Is there some chance there will be anything wrong with the initial... with the first... harvest? ...Of my watermelons.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
    #21958533 - 07/17/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you clone and isolate for consistency. working with genetics you know and not a random gene pool of billions possibilities for possible outcome!


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: spacechildo]
    #21959375 - 07/18/15 05:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ok yes that seems pretty clear, but why would WE do it? Are you saying that someone who was growing a certain type of mushroom, might...get some that weren't very potent? I'm afraid I still don't understand the practical application. .

You said "outcome". What type of undesirable outcome, might occur?


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
    #21959408 - 07/18/15 06:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Because you get a syringe that has spores from a fruit body that fruited in open air. Those spores are covered in other molds. Pf tek is pretty lenient, but it isn't fool proof. Every project ever done has to be started on agar and cleaned up until it's 100% sterile and clean. With agar you can cut out a clean healthy piece, even if there's trich in it. This way you can inoculate your jars with 100% clean agar wedges.

That and clean up of clones and isolation of strains as well. Isolating and cloning will have consistently potent fruits as well as high yields. Spores can be both bunk and not potent as well as super potent. You'd prefer to clone a potent fruit with prolific yields.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
    #21959499 - 07/18/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not gonna lie. Ever since I purchased from three different vendors, all (not most) of my packages that come to my mailbox have been ripped open. I'm about to complain to the post office.


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Re: One last question before I get started.. [Re: bennylava]
    #21959830 - 07/18/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Ok yes that seems pretty clear, but why would WE do it? Are you saying that someone who was growing a certain type of mushroom, might...get some that weren't very potent? I'm afraid I still don't understand the practical application. .

You said "outcome". What type of undesirable outcome, might occur?




yes its all random with MS. potency, yield, everything imaginable.
with iso/clones you know what to expect.


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