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Re: Love the morbidly obese people [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21946399 - 07/15/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: I believe that unlike racism and sexism and heterosexism, anti-fat sentiment is largely appropriate and deserved. In 90+ percent of cases, being obese means being both greedy and lazy. Being fat is a morally bad thing in most cases. It should be shamed. You get too fat by eating too much of the wrong things and not exercising enough, and being obese is in every way bad for you and society. As long as people in the world are starving, being obese is morally abhorrent. It means you are taking more then your fair share of the world`s resources.
you're discriminating against fat people, its unfair to judge them as a whole and therefor its unfair to shame them. Shame an individual based on an individuals choices that you KNOW, don't make assumptions, Because everything you mentioned can be the very opposite in a fat person and they are still fat.
Also as i mentioned in another recent fat thread, fat people are evolutionary more advanced than skinny people, they shouldn't be shamed, they should be praised for having superior genetics. There bodys are highly efficient at using food and thats one of the reasons they are fat in most cases. So if they curbed their diet, or already have, that means they are eating less and storing MORE energy which from a biologic sense is vastly superior to you fat shaming skinny dudes who would die in a week during the apocolypse
You're either fat or trolling
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I'll never understand how somebody can get so fat...
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Re: Love the morbidly obese people [Re: Patlal]
#21946484 - 07/15/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wish I could drive right up to a fat person on a fork lift and just pick them off the ground
fat fucks
hope I don't get old like that
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Re: Fucking morbidly obese people [Re: Moonshoe]
#21946588 - 07/15/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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sprinkles said: ive said this before, that parents of obese children should be charged with child abuse.
Yep.
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makaveli8x8 said: Lets go shame women for being raped, that will do them some good!
That's not a fair comparison, purely an attempt at 'shock value'..
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Moonshoe said: If you could choose a society of 100 people to found a human colony on a new planet, would you choose 100 obese people, or 100 fit and strong and healthy people?
Obviously you would choose 100 fit and strong and healthy people, and zero obese people, all else being equal
I don't know man, there's some pretty smart fat people out there that can think outside the box. In your hypothetical scenario the only answer is to sit down and interview each person, likely resulting in a mix when you finalize that bottom line. And what's it matter if they're fat? They'll be skinny soon enough because we'll be on rations and everyone' pulling their weight or going on a swim..
This PC, everyone is equal bullshit has to stop. It's not equal, none of this is equal, NOTHING IS EQUAL!!
Every fucking argument that drops through here is nothing but generalizations and statistics... fuck that. There's so many factors and elements that are involved in any one scenario, you're only fooling your fucking self... scenarios change inside any one individual through time... you can't summarize any fucking group of anything as a whole...
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Re: Fucking morbidly obese people [Re: LSDreams]
#21946618 - 07/15/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LSDreams said: Or just dont eat as much? Obviously our current system isnt the way nature intended it to be. Hunting and gathering is the way its meant to be, and we should be doing everything possible to mimic this natural method.
you're right, let's bring back small pox, raping, pillaging and genocide
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Re: Fucking morbidly obese people [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21946642 - 07/15/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just summarized pub debates as a whole...
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Re: Fucking morbidly obese people [Re: Amanita86]
#21946821 - 07/15/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i don't really understand outright hating fat people. there are a lot worse things to be.
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Re: Fucking morbidly obese people [Re: millzy]
#21946851 - 07/15/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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millzy said: i don't really understand outright hating fat people. there are a lot worse things to be.
Its the laziness of the lady that pisses me off more than anything. She has the ability to walk, sends a kid to get the cart, who clearly isnt capable of operating it since the instant she hopped on it she broke the fucking door, and almost got hit by the cars in the parking lot. On top of that she has three kids pushing her into the store.
I don't care what anyone says, morbid obesity has nothing to do with genetics, nature, or any of that shit. You had warning signs before you forfeited the ability to walk, you knew it was coming, and you still stuffed your face.
I apologize for offending people, as i know i am right now, but you have to draw a line at some point. Fuck morbid obesity. If you can still walk, then your ok with me, if you can't jog, your ok with me. Hell im skinny as fuck and can't jog for shit, btbut i still do shit for myself, i still walk, and i don't treat grocery stores like fucking bumper cars.
Get off your ass, and skip lunch for a change. It won't kill you.
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I probabaly would have lost my shit when she nailed that door..lol
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Re: Fucking morbidly obese people [Re: kakashi68]
#21946950 - 07/15/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: makes me so angry when you see someone SO FUCKING FAT that they cant actually walk.
reminds me of homer simpson when he ate himself into disability.
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Re: Love the morbidly obese people [Re: sprinkles]
#21947080 - 07/15/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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the obese lovers.
no, not the obese lovers...the sensible who are pointing out the slippery slope you're on.
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Re: Love the morbidly obese people [Re: akira_akuma]
#21947131 - 07/15/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Letting you house fall into ruin and mould and mildew and letting it collapse and letting your lawn turn to weeds and brambles is bad for your whole neighbourhood and is lazy and wrong.
Similarly letting your body get corpulent and fat and decayed and useless and letting yourself become helpless and sick because of over-indulgence is bad for your whole family and community and a drain on the entire society, its morally wrong.
Smoking is a huge drain on the health system, makes you smell bad, and contaminates your environment and can make people around you sick. It is morally wrong.
Alcoholism can make you dangerous, violent, crazy and sick, and can lead to injuries and deaths and accidents of all kinds. It is morally wrong.
Obesity, alcoholism and smoking are also mental illnesses and diseases but they are also largely self-inflicted, chosen behaviours. Yes they are addictions, but yes they also have a moral and ethical element.
These people need help and treatment but they should never be encouraged or supported in their lifestyles of excess, disease and morbidity, and these states should be understood as undesirable and not ethically acceptable as lifestyles.
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LSDreams said: Or just dont eat as much? Obviously our current system isnt the way nature intended it to be. Hunting and gathering is the way its meant to be, and we should be doing everything possible to mimic this natural method.
UM. that's a really problematic statement because there are a ton of people that have conditions that literally violate the law of thermodynamics and they stay fat even if they eat 700 calories a day. It's really insensitive and fat phobic(which is literally on par with racism and sexism, btw) for you to just say things like "Eat Less". Also, you just totally triggered me, so maybe you should check your privilege, asshole.
just kidding, I agree.

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LSDreams said: Obviously our current system isnt the way nature intended it to be.
Evolution is the way nature intended us to be. Our technology and society are evolving us into gross fat fucks. We will soon do away with ourselves. The earth goes on as it has for billions of years.
Nothing to see here folks.
Making things easier isnt really evolution in my eyes. Making things as accessible as they are now seems to be digression in the evolution chain.
Also let us not forget that balancing out every aspect of our lives is a key principle for everything.
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Re: Fucking morbidly obese people [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21947340 - 07/15/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LSDreams said: Or just dont eat as much? Obviously our current system isnt the way nature intended it to be. Hunting and gathering is the way its meant to be, and we should be doing everything possible to mimic this natural method.
you're right, let's bring back small pox, raping, pillaging and genocide
i said we need to mimic the practice of hunting and gathering... not digress into an uncivilized primitive way of life.
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Re: Love the morbidly obese people [Re: Moonshoe]
#21947919 - 07/15/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Letting you house fall into ruin and mould and mildew and letting it collapse and letting your lawn turn to weeds and brambles is bad for your whole neighbourhood and is lazy and wrong.
Similarly letting your body get corpulent and fat and decayed and useless and letting yourself become helpless and sick because of over-indulgence is bad for your whole family and community and a drain on the entire society, its morally wrong.
Smoking is a huge drain on the health system, makes you smell bad, and contaminates your environment and can make people around you sick. It is morally wrong.
Alcoholism can make you dangerous, violent, crazy and sick, and can lead to injuries and deaths and accidents of all kinds. It is morally wrong.
Obesity, alcoholism and smoking are also mental illnesses and diseases but they are also largely self-inflicted, chosen behaviours. Yes they are addictions, but yes they also have a moral and ethical element.
These people need help and treatment but they should never be encouraged or supported in their lifestyles of excess, disease and morbidity, and these states should be understood as undesirable and not ethically acceptable as lifestyles.
they aren't.
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Re: Love the morbidly obese people [Re: akira_akuma]
#21948072 - 07/15/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fatty fat fats re icky
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Re: Love the morbidly obese people [Re: Moonshoe]
#21948259 - 07/15/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said: Its the laziness of the lady that pisses me off more than anything. She has the ability to walk, sends a kid to get the cart, who clearly isnt capable of operating it since the instant she hopped on it she broke the fucking door, and almost got hit by the cars in the parking lot. On top of that she has three kids pushing her into the store.
perhaps you just have a problem with laziness and/or obnoxious people. anyone in a scooter who didn't really need it in tightly packed environment (like a grocery store) would annoy the piss out of me.
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I don't care what anyone says, morbid obesity has nothing to do with genetics, nature, or any of that shit. You had warning signs before you forfeited the ability to walk, you knew it was coming, and you still stuffed your face.
generally, i agree, but it's not that cut and dried. there are certainly people out there who are obese for factors beyond their behavior.
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Moonshoe said: Letting you house fall into ruin and mould and mildew and letting it collapse and letting your lawn turn to weeds and brambles is bad for your whole neighbourhood and is lazy and wrong.
Similarly letting your body get corpulent and fat and decayed and useless and letting yourself become helpless and sick because of over-indulgence is bad for your whole family and community and a drain on the entire society, its morally wrong.
Smoking is a huge drain on the health system, makes you smell bad, and contaminates your environment and can make people around you sick. It is morally wrong.
Alcoholism can make you dangerous, violent, crazy and sick, and can lead to injuries and deaths and accidents of all kinds. It is morally wrong.
Obesity, alcoholism and smoking are also mental illnesses and diseases but they are also largely self-inflicted, chosen behaviours. Yes they are addictions, but yes they also have a moral and ethical element.
These people need help and treatment but they should never be encouraged or supported in their lifestyles of excess, disease and morbidity, and these states should be understood as undesirable and not ethically acceptable as lifestyles.
i don't think it's as useful to reduce obesity to its moral dimensions as much as it may be for not taking care of your house, smoking and substance abuse. for one, the "drain on the entire society" line of argumentation seems to stem from a broad underlying assumption that all obese people are unable to contribute to family and public life simply because they are obese, which is, on its face, patently false. it also seems to draw on an even less true assumption that all obese people are dependent on socialized programs rather than privatized healthcare, not to mention the assumption that all obese people are obese to the point of being disabled.
moreover, your analogies to obesity itself present false equivalence. needing to lose weight - even really really needing to lose weight - just does not fall in the same vicinity as letting your house fall into disrepair, which affects surrounding property values as well as other households themselves (e.g. the spread of pests, termites, the presence of possibly venomous snakes in severely unkempt lawns etc.). neither does it come close to the way smoking and substance addiction ravages families. obesity is certainly a serious problem but let's not get crazy here, with all due respect.
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Re: Love the morbidly obese people [Re: millzy]
#21948270 - 07/15/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Moonshoe tends to be overly proselytizing in his philosophical ramblings.
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Re: Love the morbidly obese people [Re: millzy]
#21948279 - 07/15/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I still don't see genetics taking you so far that you can't walk anymore. Sure genetics might make it a total bitch to lose any weight, and they might make you hella overweight. But what i consider morbid obesity? Genetics got you started and you just didn't fight or even try to help yourself.
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Can anyone explain to me why some people are responding to thread title "love the morbidly obese people?"
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