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Am I storing my shatter wrong?
    #21941746 - 07/14/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I keep it on parchment paper, in a ziplock bag, at room temperature in the dark.

When I first got it, it was super clear you could see right through it. And it snapped perfectly like shatter should.

Now only about 3 weeks after buying it, it's kinda foggy, and is more malleable like oil, however it does still snap like shatter. Mostly just the transparency is off.

What's the deal? Why is it going foggy? Is it temperature probably? Even my room temperature can be a little warm some days...


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21941754 - 07/14/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Keeping it in the freezer will keep it solid, making it snap and break like "shatter".


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21941755 - 07/14/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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in a ziplock bag




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at room temperature




All of these things. I've never seen it get cloudy though, sounds like it wasn't that clean of oil as you thought it was. :3

But yeah dude. get a slick pad and keep that shit in the freezer homie.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21941758 - 07/14/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When you keep ice water hash, at room temp it gets "greasy" it doesn't really do anything to it other than make it look worse, though so not a big deal. But if you care about how it looks, keep it cold.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3] * 1
    #21941768 - 07/14/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Did they strip the solvent with vacuum? Sometimes fogginess will happen when tiny bubbles try to escape.

Foggy oil can happen from it decarboxylizing too. Just like when you cook with oil, the carbon dioxide bubbles up through the oil as its released.

It could either be the temperature or the bubbles, both can make it more malleable

Shatter is weird about temperature, should be called oobleck :rofl:


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21941773 - 07/14/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don have the option to keep it in the freezer, I'm living with my parents atm and they don't approve.

As long as it's not losing potency I don care what it looks like I guess.

And yes the solvent was stripped with a vacuum for like 30 hours or so.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3] * 1
    #21941776 - 07/14/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe it's getting schmutzy because you're fondling it so much with your grubby mitts.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #21941778 - 07/14/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Clarity has nothing to do with quality. I've had some bomb ass dark shatter and some shitty ass Clean shatter. The age of the plants will effect the clarity. Young plants trichomes are more clear where old plants trichomes are amber and make darker oil.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #21941785 - 07/14/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I try not to touch it more than is needed :shrug:


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3] * 1
    #21941788 - 07/14/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If I have a bulk amount of wax, I break off 1g increments to consume and leave the bulk pile in a single container. I store all my wax at room temp.

I notice that all my concentrates turn to budder over time. Even the best shatter starts to breakdown a bit. I just assumed this was from oxygen and other environmental temps. Sure freezing it makes it snap again, but once back at room temp the same problem usually occurs.

At the end of the day though, almost everyone I know deals with this problem. It's pretty common. I have 6 months of pull snap shatter that is now straight crumble. Still as tasty and potent as the day I got it, but the texture is different.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21941789 - 07/14/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, it's probably not that.  I'm just throwing out suggestions.

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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: daytripper05]
    #21941801 - 07/14/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Decarbing, oxidizing, aromatic terpenes evaporating, its simply aging :shrug:

I prefer crumble/wax over shatter/oil personally :thumbup:


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Toadstool5]
    #21943219 - 07/14/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I also prefer wax currently to shatter, but I love shatter too and keep both on hand.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: daytripper05]
    #21943232 - 07/14/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You're not storing it in my lungs, Zombi3. That's where you're going wrong.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21943318 - 07/14/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

shatter naturally oxidizes over time like that not ur fault the best way is uv jars with or without silocone inside of ur choosing


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: BlazeGlassDabs] * 1
    #21943363 - 07/14/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid: "Buddering up". You'd probably have noticed trapped solvent much earlier. I believe technically it is losing potency, but not quickly.


Silicone containers are super cheap anymore- Mine were I believe $10/20.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: DustBunny]
    #21943403 - 07/14/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Those are definatly worth the investment.Its alot better than carrying around paper.i acquired some jillybean wax from a redwood farms dispensary i guess you could call it.it came in a plastic container on parchment paper.The heat got to it and started sticking to the other side from being in my pocket.I have a vape ape container as the pictures you posted and i wouldnt store it in anything else,besides the freezer


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    #21943460 - 07/14/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:yesnod: They are great. Even though most of my oil is made from ethanol (occasionally buy some BHO), which has always come out from a dry peanut-butter-y crumble (like the left container above) to absolute shatter/glass, the containers surely help me save the tiny crumbs.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: IISkuNkII]
    #21943465 - 07/14/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I was really into shatter for a hot minute. But its not worth the effort anymore to me. Honestly a bong rip of good bud gets me higher than a dab. And as long as you're using a glass or TI nail it's fine, but a lot of guys use dab pens and who knows what shitty chemicals those produce. But I did get a couple of those silicone containers when I was doing a lot of dabs and they're great.

But yes I've noticed mine get cloudy after storing for a while, and also seem to get much harder, as if over time more solvent was allowed to escape maybe? I don't know. I left a gram in a drawer for a couple months and when I came back to it it was clouded over and harder than a rock.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21943665 - 07/14/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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keep that shit in the freezer homie.




its not shatter if its not stable at room temp like 70F

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Clarity has nothing to do with quality. I've had some bomb ass dark shatter and some shitty ass Clean shatter. The age of the plants will effect the clarity. Young plants trichomes are more clear where old plants trichomes are amber and make darker oil.




this is total BS, show me some shatter that is dark green/black that is better than even decent shatter


OP you stored your shit correctly, your shit autobuttered - when it goes from shatter to wax without you touching it its because there is solvent or moisture left in the final product


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #21943713 - 07/14/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Moisture, plant waxes, and residual solvent can all lead to autobuddering. I would not recommend putting your oil in the freezer or fridge do to moisture. If it was extracted correctly it should never budder. I've had slabs for 6 months with no change in clarity at all.


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    #21943752 - 07/14/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

^ this dude knows


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #21944035 - 07/14/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Idk why you asked to see it you're just going to say it looks gross because it's not clear. I don't like dewaxed oil so I don't like the completely clear shit. I mean I honestly thought this shit would suck too but it was fucking bomb. Train wreck shatter.

It looks gross but shit was fucking fire.

Inb4 I get flamed from this.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
    #21944042 - 07/14/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd smoke it:foshizzle:.Sometimes looks can be deceiving,especially in the marijuana scene


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: IISkuNkII]
    #21944051 - 07/14/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's the point I was making but trippin called bullshit.

I promise you this shit was bomb. It wasn't the best shatter I've ever had though. I'm uploading a picture now of the best I've ever had. It's clear but still darker than what most people would consider topshelf. It's a very very heavy amber.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21944075 - 07/14/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



Best oil I've ever had. I don't care if it doesn't look pretty. It was magical.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21944289 - 07/14/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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That's the point I was making but trippin called bullshit.

I promise you this shit was bomb. It wasn't the best shatter I've ever had though. I'm uploading a picture now of the best I've ever had. It's clear but still darker than what most people would consider topshelf. It's a very very heavy amber.



Nobody's saying it won't get you high, it's just gross

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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: drr]
    #21944522 - 07/14/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



I made this myself using a quick-wash cold acetone extraction

It was some damn fine stuff


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: drr]
    #21944527 - 07/14/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Nobody's saying it won't get you high, it's just gross





It wasn't gross though, everything about it was bomb, mad flavor, mad rush from the hit, mad high off small dabs, the only thing gross about it was the looks man. I promise.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21944576 - 07/14/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I feel you, when I first started smoking wax, I made a bunch myself and it came out pretty dark, not as dark as that though. The first couple runs came out great actually, honey-colored and delicious, but I over-blasted the weed and the rest of it came out rather green. It definitely was not shatter. It was more like low grade wax. I didn't have a vacuum cooker so I 'purged' the best I could on parchment paper over a hot frying pan, carefully. I didn't know what I was doing at all. Even the green stuff tasted good and got me really high. But I remember a lot of people turning it down when I offered it to them.


I just got kind of freaked out about the butane and generally being turned off by the not super pretty stuff after I started reading about it and getting the really good shit from the dispensaries.

Now I don't even really care for the stuff anymore, I'll do it, but I prefer smoking bowls, it gets me way higher, and I light it with a hemp/beeswax wick, because I've been inhaling butane and butane combustion byproducts for 12 years daily now. I won't touch BHO anymore unless it looks pristine and shatters at room temp. I'm sure someone will pop in and say I'm being paranoid about the butane :shrug:


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: drr]
    #21944672 - 07/14/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah I feel you, when I first started smoking wax, I made a bunch myself and it came out pretty dark, not as dark as that though. The first couple runs came out great actually, honey-colored and delicious, but I over-blasted the weed and the rest of it came out rather green. It definitely was not shatter. It was more like low grade wax. I didn't have a vacuum cooker so I 'purged' the best I could on parchment paper over a hot frying pan, carefully. I didn't know what I was doing at all. Even the green stuff tasted good and got me really high. But I remember a lot of people turning it down when I offered it to them.


I just got kind of freaked out about the butane and generally being turned off by the not super pretty stuff after I started reading about it and getting the really good shit from the dispensaries.

Now I don't even really care for the stuff anymore, I'll do it, but I prefer smoking bowls, it gets me way higher, and I light it with a hemp/beeswax wick, because I've been inhaling butane and butane combustion byproducts for 12 years daily now. I won't touch BHO anymore unless it looks pristine and shatters at room temp. I'm sure someone will pop in and say I'm being paranoid about the butane :shrug:




Butane is non-toxic, but there's no telling what happens once it hits the nail.

And the guy who sold it to me, said he left it in his car for a long ass time in the summer, and it decarbed so that's why it was brown. Idk if it was bullshit or not but it was good. I didn't complain at all.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21946034 - 07/15/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i never asked to see anything but im thinking of shatter thats like black/green - that trainwreck doesnt look too bad, im sure if it was flattened out a bit it would be a bit more amber

also if you have a slab and drop it and the ambient air is like 70 it should shatter like glass - non of this tacky, malleable bs






i wish i kept a supporter account, or the cops didnt raid my place cause i have some gorgeous shatter pics on there and ones that would make you puke just looking at them :lol: but they would all get you stoned as fuck - but the taste and the hurt - this shit would leave residue on a HOT nail.....and that came outta a dispensary (granted 15 a g) but that stuff pictured above i was getting for 20-25/g


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #21946041 - 07/15/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Damn, I love when you guys post shatter porn. I don't know whether to smoke it, eat it, or fuck it. I'm not a picky guy either so they're all 10/10. Even the pic with some green in it is like dimples on a cute girl.

Last time I had some wax it wasn't purged right and everyone who smoked it said they almost shit themselves they were coughing so hard. Probably smoked a ton of butane. Never again.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Adden]
    #21946249 - 07/15/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The few times i've had it, it looked nothing like the pretty amber stuff I see on here.

It was opaque, nearly multi colored and tasted like hell. Glad it was free...


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #21946309 - 07/15/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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show me some shatter that is dark green/black that is better than even decent shatter



You technically did ask but it's all good. who cares what color your oil looks as long as it isn't poop soup right? and yeah I've smoked some dabs that sizzle pop and spark on a nail. Guhhhroooss


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #21946594 - 07/15/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I feel for you guy.My apartment was also raided last year in june.Short story ATF and the haz-mat thought there'd be things they would like and there was.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: IISkuNkII]
    #21946607 - 07/15/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So many people treat oil like it's a dick-measuring contest or something

If the oil dabs and tastes good it's fine to me

Some of you guys just come off as elitists


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21946638 - 07/15/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So many people treat oil like it's a dick-measuring contest or something

If the oil dabs and tastes good it's fine to me

Some of you guys just come off as elitists




Well i would more than likely not win that dick measuring contest.
:feelsbatman: Mdma made me alot smaller and trouble getting it up.
And thats even when im not on it.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: IISkuNkII]
    #21946649 - 07/15/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:lolwut:


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21946655 - 07/15/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Im just venting.We cant all have big penises.:feelsbadman:
Its like having a boat.I could have a titanic but its too much up-keep,Or i could have a canoe.Small and steady wins the race as they say:datass:


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    #21947113 - 07/15/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

wow u guys smoke some shitty oil. its waxing up cuz ur folding air into it nd heating and cooling it a ton.


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21947160 - 07/15/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I dont want to come off as an elitist but chief is probably right. If it starts as shatter and changes its 99% of the time going to be from handling to much. Like another poster ive had slabs stay clear shatter for almost a year and they stayed shatter i just smoked it all. Also another point ive seen is people say use ISO or acetone and those would be fine if you get research grade solvent but the stuff you get in the stores is terrible! Also Physco ive had shatter that was clear as could be and wasnt dewaxed there is a ton of variables when it comes to BHO/PHO


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21947326 - 07/15/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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show me some shatter that is dark green/black that is better than even decent shatter



You technically did ask but it's all good. who cares what color your oil looks as long as it isn't poop soup right? and yeah I've smoked some dabs that sizzle pop and spark on a nail. Guhhhroooss




youre right i did ask :lol: but IME ive never had a good tasting black/green shatter - that trainwreck you posted looks like if it was flattened out it would be more amber than black...i didnt even see any green in that - i wouldnt consider that shit oil



if its autobuttering its got moisture/solvent trying to get out....one time i god some "shatter" that was straight sap and had a bunch of butane left in it and i just laid the slab on a piece of parchment paper and put it on top of my 1000w in my grow room and actually had it purge further and come out more solid



the only time im an elitist about shatter is when someone calls it shatter and at room temp its stringy and maleable and NOT SHATTER


if it doesnt shatter like glass i want people to call it sap - it makes like no difference other than ease of use and preference but i dont want some shit that is sappy when someone calls it shatter....im a stickler on stability and calling BHO shatter when it doesnt even snap


this shit wouldnt even become maleable in my fingers




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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #21947408 - 07/15/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

im spoiled rotten :sad:


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21947412 - 07/15/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

mostof the time the more maliable shatter is way better as long as its fully purged


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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21947510 - 07/15/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i think theres a perfect stability - shatters like glass at room temp, when i get in inbetween my fingers then it becomes malleable and its a pull and snap type deal - then will quickly harden back up

there is a point where shatter is so shattery its kinda fucking annoying and you end up with shards everywhere :lol:


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