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Zombi3
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Am I storing my shatter wrong?
#21941746 - 07/14/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I keep it on parchment paper, in a ziplock bag, at room temperature in the dark.
When I first got it, it was super clear you could see right through it. And it snapped perfectly like shatter should.
Now only about 3 weeks after buying it, it's kinda foggy, and is more malleable like oil, however it does still snap like shatter. Mostly just the transparency is off.
What's the deal? Why is it going foggy? Is it temperature probably? Even my room temperature can be a little warm some days...
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3]
#21941754 - 07/14/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Keeping it in the freezer will keep it solid, making it snap and break like "shatter".
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3]
#21941755 - 07/14/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: in a ziplock bag
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Zombi3 said: at room temperature
All of these things. I've never seen it get cloudy though, sounds like it wasn't that clean of oil as you thought it was. :3
But yeah dude. get a slick pad and keep that shit in the freezer homie.
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When you keep ice water hash, at room temp it gets "greasy" it doesn't really do anything to it other than make it look worse, though so not a big deal. But if you care about how it looks, keep it cold.
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3] 1
#21941768 - 07/14/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Did they strip the solvent with vacuum? Sometimes fogginess will happen when tiny bubbles try to escape.
Foggy oil can happen from it decarboxylizing too. Just like when you cook with oil, the carbon dioxide bubbles up through the oil as its released.
It could either be the temperature or the bubbles, both can make it more malleable
Shatter is weird about temperature, should be called oobleck
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I don have the option to keep it in the freezer, I'm living with my parents atm and they don't approve.
As long as it's not losing potency I don care what it looks like I guess.
And yes the solvent was stripped with a vacuum for like 30 hours or so.
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3] 1
#21941776 - 07/14/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe it's getting schmutzy because you're fondling it so much with your grubby mitts.
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Clarity has nothing to do with quality. I've had some bomb ass dark shatter and some shitty ass Clean shatter. The age of the plants will effect the clarity. Young plants trichomes are more clear where old plants trichomes are amber and make darker oil.
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I try not to touch it more than is needed
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3] 1
#21941788 - 07/14/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If I have a bulk amount of wax, I break off 1g increments to consume and leave the bulk pile in a single container. I store all my wax at room temp.
I notice that all my concentrates turn to budder over time. Even the best shatter starts to breakdown a bit. I just assumed this was from oxygen and other environmental temps. Sure freezing it makes it snap again, but once back at room temp the same problem usually occurs.
At the end of the day though, almost everyone I know deals with this problem. It's pretty common. I have 6 months of pull snap shatter that is now straight crumble. Still as tasty and potent as the day I got it, but the texture is different.
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Zombi3]
#21941789 - 07/14/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, it's probably not that. I'm just throwing out suggestions.
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: daytripper05]
#21941801 - 07/14/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Decarbing, oxidizing, aromatic terpenes evaporating, its simply aging 
I prefer crumble/wax over shatter/oil personally
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: Toadstool5]
#21943219 - 07/14/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I also prefer wax currently to shatter, but I love shatter too and keep both on hand.
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: daytripper05]
#21943232 - 07/14/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're not storing it in my lungs, Zombi3. That's where you're going wrong.
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shatter naturally oxidizes over time like that not ur fault the best way is uv jars with or without silocone inside of ur choosing
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"Buddering up". You'd probably have noticed trapped solvent much earlier. I believe technically it is losing potency, but not quickly.
Silicone containers are super cheap anymore- Mine were I believe $10/20.
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: DustBunny]
#21943403 - 07/14/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those are definatly worth the investment.Its alot better than carrying around paper.i acquired some jillybean wax from a redwood farms dispensary i guess you could call it.it came in a plastic container on parchment paper.The heat got to it and started sticking to the other side from being in my pocket.I have a vape ape container as the pictures you posted and i wouldnt store it in anything else,besides the freezer
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: IISkuNkII]
#21943460 - 07/14/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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They are great. Even though most of my oil is made from ethanol (occasionally buy some BHO), which has always come out from a dry peanut-butter-y crumble (like the left container above) to absolute shatter/glass, the containers surely help me save the tiny crumbs.
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Re: Am I storing my shatter wrong? [Re: IISkuNkII]
#21943465 - 07/14/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was really into shatter for a hot minute. But its not worth the effort anymore to me. Honestly a bong rip of good bud gets me higher than a dab. And as long as you're using a glass or TI nail it's fine, but a lot of guys use dab pens and who knows what shitty chemicals those produce. But I did get a couple of those silicone containers when I was doing a lot of dabs and they're great.
But yes I've noticed mine get cloudy after storing for a while, and also seem to get much harder, as if over time more solvent was allowed to escape maybe? I don't know. I left a gram in a drawer for a couple months and when I came back to it it was clouded over and harder than a rock.
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Psychonautica said: keep that shit in the freezer homie.
its not shatter if its not stable at room temp like 70F
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Psychonautica said: Clarity has nothing to do with quality. I've had some bomb ass dark shatter and some shitty ass Clean shatter. The age of the plants will effect the clarity. Young plants trichomes are more clear where old plants trichomes are amber and make darker oil.
this is total BS, show me some shatter that is dark green/black that is better than even decent shatter
OP you stored your shit correctly, your shit autobuttered - when it goes from shatter to wax without you touching it its because there is solvent or moisture left in the final product
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