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Malabar on rye and wheat
    #21941679 - 07/14/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I just want to show my little shroom container with nice malabar.
The experimental substrate is not only rye, there is also coffee, wheat bran, rye flour and I think some malt and bird seeds too in it, cant tell in which ratio but it was a darker brown "goo", so not really the consistency you should mix, luckily all went good also for the B+, but they are not so fast fruiting like these guys. (about a week)
One shroom had to be picked in the morning because he was already sporulating.

Yesterday




Today


Look at this little pin formation on the right wall. :laugh:



Can I theorically use the Mycel on the wall as isolates?

Edit: To better understand the dimensions, the container is about 17,5x17,5cm and 2-3 cm substrate from one jar.


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: Pilzfreund]
    #21941697 - 07/14/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

awesome post man! just a tip, you should cut some holes in your tub so fresh air can come in.
you'll get fatter meatier fruits from it and it helps promote pinning and keeps contams away!

theoretically, why not, but you'd much rather want to clone some tissue from a mushroom.


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: spacechildo]
    #21941717 - 07/14/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the tip, I already have 1 box the same size like that with some holes, but it doesnt go well while recovering.
I am fanning every 3 hours 3-5 times a day depends on how long Im awake.
I just like it to take care of them and fan manually, but I want and have to change the way of FAE in a few months because lack of time to fan manually.
You are so right, I just saw these great rhizimorph strands I hadnt before on my tub wall and not even thought on just cloning the shrooms. :grin:


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: Pilzfreund]
    #21941725 - 07/14/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

what do you mean it doesnt go well while recovering?
you duct tape the holes during colonization right?


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: spacechildo]
    #21941733 - 07/14/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not really duct tape it, it was experimental and I just used that tape you can fix bandages with. The problem was it let air and humidity through it and dried out, just some ferment smell was noticeable, but not a big loss, trial and error. :tongue2:


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: Pilzfreund]
    #21941765 - 07/14/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Proper FAE is like three or four air exchanges per hour. So fanning three to five times a day is not enough.
You would be better off cracking the lid all day or cutting holes in your tub.


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21941807 - 07/14/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry, but I think youre not right or better just partly right, always handled it this way and never had mycel climbing the stems or other indications of lacking FAE, different to some others who have holes but not right plugged. It may affect my yield or maybe the size of my fruits, but also got my 20g B+ shroom this way, so I cant complain about.
So I would say its not optimum but not enough?, no.
Not want to sound like a smartass just my experience and opinion and furthermore I just have to do so in 2 months.

Heres my not fruiting B+ tub:


It may look a bit cheesy to you but its just the light, for me its all white.


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: Pilzfreund]
    #21941822 - 07/14/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You can think whatever you like.
They will grow in a high co2 environment, sure.
They could grow with absolutely no fresh air ever.

Do what you want I'm simply saying it's not the best way to get a good yield.
Fanning a tub 3 times a day is NOT enough FAE.
But again, I don't really care, do what you want.


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21941845 - 07/14/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not enough would mean to me, it wouldnt lead to success, so people have their own definitions. But like I said I agree that it isnt optimum but nothing less.
But thanks for your time and opinion.


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: Pilzfreund]
    #21941892 - 07/14/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Pilzfreund said:
Not really duct tape it, it was experimental and I just used that tape you can fix bandages with. The problem was it let air and humidity through it and dried out, just some ferment smell was noticeable, but not a big loss, trial and error. :tongue2:




it should still colonize fine tho. the ferment smell was probably the culprit,
if you used coir+verm its highly likely your spawn wasnt clean.

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Heres my not fruiting B+ tub:





you shouldn't tape the liner to the wall, you want the liner to cling to your sub so you avoid side pins.
also your mushrooms are showing signs of lacking fae, they are pretty skinny and stretching upwards.

I'd crack the lid too, if it gets too dry in there just give it a mist.
Have you seen outdoor cubes? thats what they should look like with proper fae and lights!


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: spacechildo]
    #21941962 - 07/14/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I dont really know, why I changed the trash bag to the outside, but before I had just half sized gaps, I will do so again the next time.
I dont really want to mess up the small container, its used for different things, with the bigger one I thought often about just drilling holes and do this poly stuff the holes thing, but hadnt the material or proper tape.
What do you actually mean with crack the lid, make holes and stuff polyfill?


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: Pilzfreund]
    #21941986 - 07/14/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No, just open the latches and slide the lid so it is slightly off center on the tub by about half an inch, meaning there is a half an inch space between the tub and lid by each handle.

That way air will flow through one side, mix into the humid air in the tub, then out the other side. It works, just look at this thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17235777/fpart/1/vc/1
Scroll down to see exactly how the lid is cracked


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: Pilzfreund]
    #21942006 - 07/14/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Reading since other a year but never heard of that.
Thanks, whats a thing I can easily do, just dont wanted to mess around with my containers. If I knew before what you mean, I wouldnt had discuss with you guys, so I will definitively take the better option to grow.

I will keep you posted how it turns out.


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: Pilzfreund]
    #21942028 - 07/14/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yep just do what he said! viel glück :wink:


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: Pilzfreund]
    #21942043 - 07/14/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No problem, bud. Good luck and definitely keep us posted!


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21946422 - 07/15/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Danke, thanks :wink:
I just let both of my tubs with "cracked lid" overnight and a few times a day for an hour.(have to close it sometimes, Im smoking in that room)
The free bigger one on the top opened their caps, 2 with partly broken veils and one which stretch-breaks his veil(the veil attachment point on the stem is just 2,5 cm away from the cap)
I will just wait for them to open more for some prints.


I wonder how the little one turns out, he has the biggest white dots in there.


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: Pilzfreund]
    #21946436 - 07/15/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

they will be done in a few hrs.

your next set of shrooms (flush) will be much meatier if you keep having the lid cracked!

smoke doesnt hurt mushrooms at all, I've smoked almost every imaginable "drug" next to my tubs :shrug:


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: spacechildo]
    #21946456 - 07/15/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

But have you done so with a cracked lid or with poly, because the poly can catch some of the smoke.(parts of the room can be easily filled with smoke despite an open window and a small bong, *for a few minutes)
If its the first I wouldnt care too. :laugh:

Now I could do, wind is blowing all out of the window.:cool:


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: Pilzfreund]
    #21946469 - 07/15/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

both with poly and open holes.
dont trust the poly to catch anything. mold spores, smoke, flies, everything can and will get through it.


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Re: Malabar on rye and wheat [Re: spacechildo]
    #21946486 - 07/15/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ok thank you for sharing your experience, its good to hear it wouldnt harm, I just cracked them again.
Besides shrooms have to accustom to unclean air at leat in some parts of the world. :grin:

E:I think I will harvest the bigger shrooms in like an hour.
Maybe I will let one of them in there to open his cap more for a better print at a pinch there is also a second flush and a few more tiny guys which will be harvested.


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