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Offlineoptyks
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Some questions for an upcoming journey
    #21938429 - 07/13/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys.

I've got 6 x 12" sections of bridgesii in possession.  Some friends are wanting to take it camping this weekend, so I'm de-skinning, de-coreing, blending, and reducing it to a bitter liquid to drink. We don't have time nor equipment for lengthy extractions.

I've been reading a good bit about it lately, but some people are saying bridgesii has other alkaloids in it that make it feel 'less mescaline' and energetic than san pedro or pure mesc. Can anyone comment on this? None of us has tried mesc, though we've all tried mushrooms and acid ~10 times. What should we expect? Is camping going to be a great setting for this?

Some people are saying 6" is a good single dose, while others are saying 12" is a good single dose. I know cacti have varying levels of content, but that's a big range.

So, my questions summed up:

What can we expect from bridgesii vs shrooms/LSD?
How does it differ from a 'straighter' mescaline experience?
Is camping overnight with close friends going to be a good setting?
Should I prepare liquid from a 12" section for each person, or 6"?

Also, I've heard bridgesii is/contains MAOIs. is there anything I should know regarding that? Food to eat/not to ea beforehand/during, etc


Edited by optyks (07/13/15 09:08 PM)


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Offlineoptyks
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Re: Some questions for an upcoming journey [Re: optyks]
    #21946210 - 07/15/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

.... Anyone? I know there are people in this forum..


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Re: Some questions for an upcoming journey [Re: optyks]
    #21946234 - 07/15/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i like bridgesii.  i shared a foot with my ex once i tripped out pretty good.  i guess she didn't though.  i would just eat the whole foot if i were you.


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Re: Some questions for an upcoming journey [Re: optyks]
    #21946832 - 07/15/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you don't take enough bridgesii, you'll probably just feel super stoned and lethargic. I'd say a foot for everyone for each person to experience a "trip". The average person needs ALOT of cactus to go as far as ego death, so don't worry about going too far. The cactus(tried pachanoi and bridgesii) has always felt more mellow than shrooms to me(less body load/anxiety), and although I've never tried acid, I've heard lots of people say on high doses that it is more acid like than shroom like.
Good vibes on your journey!


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Re: Some questions for an upcoming journey [Re: coltonschultz]
    #21947380 - 07/15/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Go 18" per person. Mescaline is very forgiving. And remember to do multiple pulls when making your tea. Try not to eat anything 8 hours beforehand and chew some ginger or have a toke to help with the nausea. Don't worry about refraining from certain kinds of food. Eat clean a few days beforehand. Have a swell time - nature will be a great setting as long as you're with people you trust.

IME Bridgesii felt like I had invented the dream and Pedro made me realise "I" was the dream.


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Re: Some questions for an upcoming journey [Re: optyks]
    #21947440 - 07/15/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

optyks said:
So, my questions summed up:

What can we expect from bridgesii vs shrooms/LSD?
How does it differ from a 'straighter' mescaline experience?
Is camping overnight with close friends going to be a good setting?
Should I prepare liquid from a 12" section for each person, or 6"?

Also, I've heard bridgesii is/contains MAOIs. is there anything I should know regarding that? Food to eat/not to ea beforehand/during, etc




1) With bridgesii your more in control and it feels like waves of a love beach rising and falling with the tide, it's magical, you will love it.

2) IME a full alkaloid extraction with bridgesii potentiates the trip, as more goodies than just mescaline are present as you know, and would recommend this. You're also losing some of the mescaline along with these alkaloids by not utilizing the core.

3) Nature is a great set and setting, all though I prefer solo tripping, to each their own, as long as your comfortable with said friends it will be magical, maybe some acoustic music thrown in as well.

4) 12 inches per person would be my recommendation.

5) MAOI content is nothing to worry about concerning your diet, it's there but not near an amount to worry about.

Also, you have 2 days to work with, and a crock pot (cheap at any thrift store) will allow you to experience a full alkaloid extraction, if you haven't all ready prepared them. You can reduce it down on low heat setting and end up with beautiful crystals and taffy and stuff that into gel caps to avoid ALL nausea.

It would suck if one or two people yacked early and weren't experiencing the same effects as everyone else, as I find being on the same "level" an important part of group tripping.


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You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
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Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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Re: Some questions for an upcoming journey [Re: lovesquare]
    #21948185 - 07/15/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you for the replies everyone!

lovesquare, I have a crock pot. How do I end up with crystals like you're saying? Blend > strain > reduce to tar? Keep in mind I'll be away at work most of the day too. Can't I just do the technique I just mentioned but reduce the juice via fan/oven to a tar?

Also, I didn't weigh the cuttings already being prepared (3x12") but I weighed the 3 I haven't started on yet, and they average 711 grams between the 3. How many grams fresh is a good but not overwhelming dose?


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Re: Some questions for an upcoming journey [Re: optyks]
    #21948754 - 07/15/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

optyks said:
Thank you for the replies everyone!

lovesquare, I have a crock pot. How do I end up with crystals like you're saying? Blend > strain > reduce to tar? Keep in mind I'll be away at work most of the day too. Can't I just do the technique I just mentioned but reduce the juice via fan/oven to a tar?

Also, I didn't weigh the cuttings already being prepared (3x12") but I weighed the 3 I haven't started on yet, and they average 711 grams between the 3. How many grams fresh is a good but not overwhelming dose?



Just got back from dinner, my apologies for the late reply :smile:.

Cut your entire cuttings into small chunks, the smaller the better (you want as much surface area as possible). Put them in a bag and leave them in the freezer overnight to break open the cell walls of the specimens. Go get you a lemon. In the morning before work, add your chunks, lemon juice, and enough water to cover the cactus (and a tad more) to the crock pot. Turn that baby on low, lid on, and let it cook all day while your at work. When you get home stir everything up REAL good, and strain out the spent cactus (make sure to squeeze as much of the excess juice out of the chunks as possible). Take off the lid, keep the crock pot on low overnight, when you wake up you'll notice a film on the bottom of the pot. Carefully scrape up everything and :voila:. Trust me, this beats any other method, smooth come up, no nausea, and a great 14-18 hour journey.


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If you go down round the bend in the river,
You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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Re: Some questions for an upcoming journey [Re: lovesquare]
    #21948862 - 07/15/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Haha awesome. Here's where I'm at currently:
My 3ft of cactus has been prepared. Roughly half of it was pureed the other day and boiled down a little. The other half was skinned, cored, chopped and frozen. I went to bed and didn't want to keep it on the stove overnight, or risk it spoiling so I left it in the freezer. When I got home from work today, I took everything out of the freezer and thawed. I strained all liquid I could through cheesecloth, which is currently reducing in a few locations: in a pyrex dish on a table under a ceiling fan (might as well be adding water it's taking so long to evap.) one large dish about 1cm full is in the over at 200*f (has since been turned off, but still in there. Also takin forever), one sauce pan is reducing it on low heat (going faster than the others) and a pot is boiling the chunks and puree again.

Maybe just continue reducing everything until this evening then put it on low when I go to bed?

Somewhat unrelated, but a weird phenomena nonetheless. I've noticed that when I'm in the kitchen preparing the subjects, I feel lightly stoned even though I haven't smoked weed while doing these...

Also, just to see if these are good, the first night I was preparing everything, I drank about a cup, maybe less of un-reduced, straight cactus snot. About an hour later I definitely had a buzz going, somewhat dilated pupils, minor body high, very faint visuals. I wonder what it has in store..


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