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Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look?
    #21938024 - 07/13/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Here are the steps that I just took a couple minutes ago when casing and introducing to fruiting conditions (In chronological order with pictures):

1. Cut enough polyfill for 6 holes. 2 balls of polyfill were very light (they are in the top holes)





2. Put casing layer on.  I used 50/50 peat and verm. About 1/4". There was mycelium that was reaching onto the lining of the bag and a TINY bit was on the plastic. I cased as much as I could however did not want the casing to fall between the tub and liner.

Before casing:




After applying casing:


Where mycelium was creeping up on edges:


Here are the pictures after adding polyfill:




Here I brought the tub outside for 2 MINUTES only, as I've read it helps with pinning...direct sunlight:


And here is the finished product:



Here are my questions....

1. Should I be worried about that mycelium creeping up on the liner? Anything I should do?

2.  How do I tell if the humidity is high? By the water droplets sticking to the bin, giving it that foggy look?

3.  Should I do anything extra at this point?

I appreciate everyone who has helped me along this journey and thank anyone in advance for any suggestions they would have me do now..or even a good job would suffice :thumbup:


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21938069 - 07/13/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm...

well there's a few things I see but I'll start with the big one first.

afaik if you do a casing layer you're supposed to keep the tape on untill the casing layer is 30% colonized then you patch and introduce to fruiting conditions, no?


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: newrook]
    #21938077 - 07/13/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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newrook said:
Hmmm...

well there's a few things I see but I'll start with the big one first.

afaik if you do a casing layer you're supposed to keep the tape on untill the casing layer is 30% colonized then you patch and introduce to fruiting conditions, no?




You can, but it isn't a must..respectable growers here basically said everything after 100% colonization is an experiment..here's the link to where I asked the question:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21936069


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21938089 - 07/13/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

1. NO. Mycelium tends to do this. Everytime I use a liner the mycelium climbs up the sides somewhat.

2. Having condensation on the side of the tubs doesn't necessarily mean that the humidity is high. You have to look at your substrate. Usually, I just determine if the substrate has an adequate microclimate by making sure little dew droplets cover the entire surface of the substrate. Also, look at the colouring of your substrate. If it's bruising/yellowing it is also a sign that it's too dry. Make sure water isn't pooling on it either. If the surface of you substrate is dry, it means that your humidity is too low and you need to dial in your tubs further by making the polyfill in the top holes more dense.

3. Nope, just make sure it gets on an 12/12 direct light cycle.


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: Ganon]
    #21938107 - 07/13/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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dial in your tubs further by making the polyfill in the top holes more dense.





Well here is another question...

FAE promotes pins, so should I keep the top holes loose until something goes wrong? Or would the extra humidity be beneficial in the beginning?

I think I should by some type of mister but don't want to fall in the trap of doing to much, consequently fucking my grow up.

I was going to add some more polyfill to the top holes when I read that comment and make it more tighter, but decided to post this first.

Am I good for now?


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21938227 - 07/13/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are you in fruiting or are you going to let myc pop through the casing? My post above was for if you're fruiting it. (I left midway through the post and accidentally said to put it on an ambient cycle because I got confused lol. Edited it BTW.)


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: Ganon]
    #21938239 - 07/13/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm fruiting it. The tape is off of the holes and I've introduced FAE which I've read is the number 1 pinning trigger..

I'm on my way to Home Depot right now to grab a small mister to make the casing glisten, NOTHING more..don't want it getting all wet.

But then again I doubt I even need to mist now because the casing was pretty moist (field capacity)


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21938249 - 07/13/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Mhmm, you want to loosen the top holes just enough so that the substrate retains surface moisture (little dew drops) and gets adequate FAE. You have to find a balance. It's different for everyone, because everyone has different conditions depending on where they live and what kind of humidity system their household has.


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: Ganon]
    #21938317 - 07/13/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the responses..well hopefully I'll be able to tell what it needs but one thing is for sure...the casing is not glistening with little dew drops..

Just purchased this and will take a picture when it's all said and done (hopefully it's good enough quality to show the difference)



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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21938423 - 07/13/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just give it some time. You can't really tell if you need more of this or that until you allow it to try after you provide fruiting conditions. The only exception he is water. Keep the microclimate moist and chill for a bit.

Im also not sure that mister will work very well as you need to mist downward, not upward or to the side. You can buy spray bottles in the cleaning isle of Walmart for 89 cents which do a great job.


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: OPB]
    #21938453 - 07/13/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Why would I need to mist downward?

I'd think if the mist eventually fell on the substrate that it wouldn't matter what direction it came from...

Those walmart sprayers are too harsh and the water droplets are too big..they don't provide as much as a fine mist as this will.

Please correct me if I am wrong though.

I will lower the temperature slightly though, thanks for the input.


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21938521 - 07/13/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you are absolutely right.


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21938547 - 07/13/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yo is this that same tub from the other day with all that straw piled on top? If it is then I am glad you cased it.


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21938641 - 07/13/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yo is this that same tub from the other day with all that straw piled on top? If it is then I am glad you cased it.




Yes sir! I actually ended up opening the tub that same day I posted it, and removed most of the straw sitting on top then let it colonizers for 6 days. Appreciate the comment


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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21938665 - 07/13/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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MidwestShroomin said:
Quote:

SteveRogers said:
Yo is this that same tub from the other day with all that straw piled on top? If it is then I am glad you cased it.




Yes sir! I actually ended up opening the tub that same day I posted it, and removed most of the straw sitting on top then let it colonizers for 6 days. Appreciate the comment




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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21938688 - 07/13/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The industrial looking sprayers can make a pretty fine mist if you adjust it down to where it's almost closed but have at it. It cartainly will work it just seem odd to spray up I guess. If you take the "straw" out of it you might be able to spray straight down.
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Re: Just cased monotub, put polyfill in, and gave a little direct sunlight. How does everything look? [Re: OPB]
    #21943238 - 07/14/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I gave them a TINY mist (casing was already damp) and then fanned a little.

Does everything look ok?

Ambient temperature is 70 degrees


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