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Nystagmus (eye wiggles) from smoked dmt...
    #21937818 - 07/13/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I smoked some dmt whilst sitting along the side of a river recently....

Immediately after exhaling the toke I had some intense nystagmus start to occur. I've never experienced this from a psychedelic before, only moderately high doses of mdma or mda have catalyzed thee ol' eye wiggles for me.....and this felt considerably more intense than any nystagmus I've encountered while on mdma or mda.


It should be noted that I also took at least 5 big tokes off a bowl of syrian rue seeds a few minutes before smoking the dmt...I have a feeling the harmalas played a roll in this.




It didn't cause me any worry while it was happening but it was initially quite a distraction, in a "why is this happening, strange, never had this happen with dmt before" sorta way. Even with eyes closed I could feel them jiggling back and forth vigorously.

I have never heard of this occurring from dmt or any classic psychedelic, so I'm curious if anyone else here has experienced nystagmus from dmt and/or harmala alkaloids?







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Re: Nystagmus (eye wiggles) from smoked dmt... [Re: openmind]
    #21937946 - 07/13/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

alexander shulgin coined the term "eye romp"

although, i don't think he was referring to DMT when he came up with it

in other words, yes ive experienced similar.


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Re: Nystagmus (eye wiggles) from smoked dmt... [Re: openmind]
    #21938643 - 07/13/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have permanent, reoccuring random eye twitching, althought i cant say for sure its from DMT.

Ive done all the classic psychedelics, but DMT was the last one. So i think classic psychs in general do it, and maybe DMT does it the most :shrug:


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Re: Nystagmus (eye wiggles) from smoked dmt... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21942437 - 07/14/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Rafiikii said:
alexander shulgin coined the term "eye romp"

although, i don't think he was referring to DMT when he came up with it

in other words, yes ive experienced similar.






So you have experienced nystagmus after smoking dmt?


I've heard his term "eye romp" before, for referring to nystagmus, but I don't think he was referring to this occurring with dmt either....I know nystagmus is a common occurrence with moderate to high doses of mdma/mda, and amphetamines/stimulants in general, some of the 2c chems I can see triggering this as well....but in my almost 10 years of reading about and working with psychedelics, I've never heard a single report or story of someone experiencing this from a classic psychedelic (mushrooms, dmt, lsd, mescaline...)...and after over 100 experiences with different psychedelics, I've never experienced this from anything except mdma or mda until just the other day.



When ever I get nystagmus whilst on mdma or mda, it's usually when I'm rolling quite hard....moments of my eyes rolling up into the back of my head when I'm chock full of bliss, eyes buzzing back and forth so much that everything appears blurred.







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I have permanent, reoccuring random eye twitching, althought i cant say for sure its from DMT.





Were you born with nystagmus? I've never heard of any drug causing nystagmus to happen to someone permanently.


I think most folks that have congenital nystagmus have practically constant involuntary rhythmic eye movements...not just random moments of eye twitching.


These videos are some good examples of those that have nystagmus.....Except when I'm on mdma or mda my eyes feel like they're wiggling around much faster than what's seen in these videos, and when it occurred the other day after smoking dmt they were moving back and forth so quickly it was almost uncomfortable.












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Re: Nystagmus (eye wiggles) from smoked dmt... [Re: openmind]
    #21942480 - 07/14/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I can't look at a single spot without experiencing eye wiggle about every three or four seconds. I used to not have this problem at all. It's worse on psychedelics. It used to be that I could stare at the same point on psychedelics for like 10 minutes. Now even if I try really hard, my eye wiggles within 10 seconds.

I'm hoping it's just a side effect of long term psychedelic use, and not a serious medical problem.


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