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#21937755 - 07/13/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/13/politics/obama-commutes-sentences-drug-offenders/
President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders
Updated 4:18 PM ET, Mon July 13, 2015
Washington (CNN)President Barack Obama commuted the prison sentences of 46 drug offenders, saying in a video posted online Monday that the men and women were not "hardened criminals" and their punishments didn't match the crimes they committed.
Obama said the move was part of his larger attempt to reform the criminal justice system, including reviewing sentencing laws and reducing punishments for non-violent crimes. With Monday's announcement, Obama has commuted more sentences than any president since Lyndon B. Johnson.
"I believe that at its heart, America is a nation of second chances, and I believe these folks deserve their second chance," Obama said in the video.
The move brings the number of Obama's commutations to nearly 90. Most of those have been for federal prisoners incarcerated for drug offenses who were slapped with long sentences mandated under guidelines set during a drug-and-crime wave in the 1980s. Under current sentencing guidelines most of those prisoners would have already finished serving time.
Of the 46 prisoners whose sentences were commuted on Monday, 13 were sentenced to prison for life. Most of those commuted sentences will now end in November, a several month transition period that officials said allowed for arrangements to be made in halfway homes and other facilities.
After they're released, the former prisoners will be supervised by probation officers and subject to conditions that were set during their original sentencing, which is some cases includes drug testing.
The new round of commutations comes after 22 prisoners convicted of drug crimes were granted release earlier this year. In late 2014, eight criminals were granted commutations.
Unlike a presidential pardon, a commutation does not erase a criminal conviction, only reduces a sentence. In his presidency Obama has granted 64 pardons.
The White House on Monday posted a letter Obama wrote to each of the 46 men and women whose sentences were commuted.
"I am granting your application because you have demonstrated the potential to turn your life around," Obama wrote. "Now it is up to you to make the most of this opportunity. It will not be easy, and you will confront many who doubt people with criminal records can change. Perhaps even you are unsure of how you will adjust to your new circumstances. But remember that you have the capacity to make good choices."
Later this week, Obama is expected to discuss his plans for criminal justice reform further. He travels Tuesday to Philadelphia to speak at the annual convention of the NAACP, and on Thursday will become the first president to visit a federal prison when he tours the El Reno facility in Oklahoma.
While there, he's expected to cite bipartisan calls for chances to the criminal justice system that would reduce overcrowding in prisons and create a system where sentences better match the crimes they are meant to punish. The effort to reform the system has gained support from Republicans like Sen. Rand Paul, the libertarian-minded presidential candidate, and David and Charles Koch, the industrialist brothers who have spent millions on conservative causes.
"Over the last few years a lot of people have become aware of the inequities in the criminal justice system," Obama said in the video. "Right now, with our overall crime rate and incarceration rate both falling, we're at a moment when some good people in both parties, Republicans and Democrats and folks all across the country, are coming up with ideas to make the system work smarter and better."
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: vinsue] 1
#21937763 - 07/13/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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FUCK YEAH!!!!
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: BoomerMan420]
#21937936 - 07/13/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I believe in truth
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: lessismore] 2
#21937939 - 07/13/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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www.freeross.org , a 26 year old guy that got life in prison this year for making an online drug market place where people could buy LSD (silkroad)
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Le_Canard
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: vinsue] 2
#21937947 - 07/13/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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About time, Mr. President. But there's a lot more to be done here. A LOT more.
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: lessismore] 2
#21937949 - 07/13/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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compared to how many are locked up for this war on drugs bullshit 46 is nothing I herd hed pardon 80, not enough how about everyone!
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TNK
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: joe2]
#21937997 - 07/13/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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joe2 said: compared to how many are locked up for this war on drugs bullshit 46 is nothing I herd hed pardon 80, not enough how about everyone!
These things come in baby steps.
He went from releasing 8 in 2014 to 22 earlier this year, now 46, give it time man.
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Magicman69
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: TNK]
#21938031 - 07/13/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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One of only the handful of times I can honestly say I'm proud of Obama.
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: Magicman69] 1
#21938127 - 07/13/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's some good news.
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: skycaptain] 1
#21938286 - 07/13/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awesome. Obama directly responsible for changes like this is double awesome. Maybe people will start paying attention.
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: morbiddoctor] 1
#21938298 - 07/13/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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if Obama were to put a fire under the start of the end for the drug war, i would be so fucking pleased. it would be like there really is hope for our country after all.
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: 404] 1
#21938324 - 07/13/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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404 said: if Obama were to put a fire under the start of the end for the drug war, i would be so fucking pleased. it would be like there really is hope for our country after all.
For real.
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: vinsue] 1
#21938588 - 07/13/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Best thing the guy has ever done.
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natzyshroomer
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: PLURAL]
#21938747 - 07/13/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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The fucking president is an idiot who could not distinguish which sock goes on which foot unless spelt out... I want to see this "list" of who was released and what constitutes his judgement.. because clearly he has not proven his ability to use common sense
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: natzyshroomer]
#21938781 - 07/13/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pardoning what type of drug offences? Like is he letting out all the heroin and meth dealers so the streets are even more flooded with the shit. Or for pot and psychedelics and that sort of thing. I would just like to see details on this before thinking its this amazing thing. I mean im a drug felon for life because I got caught when i was 17 with a OZ of weed. I won't ever have that taken off my record. So I am a felon for life and wont ever be able to own a firearm and go hunting. What about all of us that aren't in prison and have to deal with petty ass felonies for the rest of our life. Just my two cents.
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natzyshroomer
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: Boomertown]
#21938811 - 07/13/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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anyone who does research on who Obama officially pardonedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Barack_Obama
not everyone has had a drug offence
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: Boomertown]
#21939425 - 07/13/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Boomertown said: Pardoning what type of drug offences? Like is he letting out all the heroin and meth dealers so the streets are even more flooded with the shit. Or for pot and psychedelics and that sort of thing. I would just like to see details on this before thinking its this amazing thing. I mean im a drug felon for life because I got caught when i was 17 with a OZ of weed. I won't ever have that taken off my record. So I am a felon for life and wont ever be able to own a firearm and go hunting. What about all of us that aren't in prison and have to deal with petty ass felonies for the rest of our life. Just my two cents.
Im pretty sure you can still own a gun mate if it aint a violent crime, as a juvenile your shit doesnt really count unless you passed your points, meaning, you racked up enough charges to either be charged as an adult or convicted, however the government can see all your charges. even as an 18y/o you can qualify for youthful offender status which pretty much gives you a chance to not get convicted, but i dont know your case, i know ive had quite alot of felony charges and have all no action/witheld adjudication. And i own a gun legally.
On another note they need to fucking free William leonard pickard man! www.freeleonardpickard.org Fucking guy made harmless lsd and did a myriad of things crucial to drug education/information. He worked for the government too.
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: Boomertown] 1
#21939816 - 07/13/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Boomertown said: Pardoning what type of drug offences? Like is he letting out all the heroin and meth dealers so the streets are even more flooded with the shit. Or for pot and psychedelics and that sort of thing. I would just like to see details on this before thinking its this amazing thing. I mean im a drug felon for life because I got caught when i was 17 with a OZ of weed. I won't ever have that taken off my record. So I am a felon for life and wont ever be able to own a firearm and go hunting. What about all of us that aren't in prison and have to deal with petty ass felonies for the rest of our life. Just my two cents.
No one deserves to get a life sentence for drug crimes no matter what the details are. They just sold a product they really really liked. So what u cant own a gun & have a record imagine sitting in a dirty 8x10 cell most of ur life.
U can get it expunged (removed) after like 5 years if u dont get in trouble again & it shouldn't be on ur record anyway if u were a minor.
Also I'm not reccomeding them, but heroin & meth arent as bad as u think probably, theres so much propaganda & rumors about "hard drugs". Meth isnt any worse than MDMA & the only diff between heroin & morphine or oxycodone is its a lot cheaper.
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: PurpleHaze147] 1
#21939884 - 07/13/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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When Obama first started this little campaign, I expected him to commute a few sentences to get some support from the drug community and call it a day. I'm pleasantly surprised. It's crazy to me that any non-violennt offense could get somebody life.
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Re: President Barack Obama commutes sentences of 46 drug offenders [Re: saythatagain]
#21941724 - 07/14/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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fuck yeah Obama! hope he can keep this up
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