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Logina
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Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus?
#21937365 - 07/13/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay, I know what I did was stupid... so I thought these were gyms and tasted them, almost no flavor and certainly no bitterness, so I thought I tasted the wrong part or an old mushroom or something... So I bit off a few small chunks off different specimens and help it in my mouth... No bitterness. I spit everything out but didn't rinse my mouth out, should I be worried?!
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: Logina]
#21937375 - 07/13/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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How much did you taste first off. A small chunk shouldn't hurt especially if you spit it out.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: BoomBoom] 1
#21937412 - 07/13/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you spit and didn't swallow any there is no harm done.
...We're still talking about the Cortinarius, right?
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: MidnightCity]
#21937424 - 07/13/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: Logina] 1
#21938389 - 07/13/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its perfectly safe to taste mushrooms, even deadly ones like Amanita phalloides (The Death Cap) as long as you do not actually eat them. Even then the amounts of toxins per specimens varies greatly enough that it may not kill someone.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: Logina] 1
#21938420 - 07/13/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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As long as you spit it out and didn't swallow anything, including juices, you are fine.
I once heard a story of an expert in the field taste testing a deadly Galerina and just tasted a piece the size of a fingernail clipping which they accidentally swallowed. They later died the most horrible death imaginable from mushroom poisoning.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21938527 - 07/13/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Please source that story if you want anyone to believe that. A tiny piece of a Galerina is not going to kill anyone, a whole specimen probably won't. Someone will probably need to eat several specimens before being adequately poisoned. Someone did not so long ago and they survived., a concerned family member or friend posted here asking for advice after the fact. There was another person Alan mentioned that intentionally ate a small piece of a deadly Amanita to show that it would not poison him, it didn't. I certainly would not suggest anyone try that as the toxins can vary a lot, I'm not sure if they would enough that a small piece will kill someone though. There is another story found on mushroomobserver where someone ate mushrooms from the same patch of deadly Amanita twice before actually getting sick and dying.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: Byrain]
#21938606 - 07/13/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree, not something to bring up unless it's able to be proven to have happened. Sure it didn't make OP feel any better.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: Byrain]
#21938670 - 07/13/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would, but it's so old at this point that I wouldn't even know where to look, I'll try and dig it up, but I put my word on it being true. I'll try and find the story
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21938707 - 07/13/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you can't find it that is fine, I wasn't trying to single you out, just that story sounds like a tall tale given our current understanding of mushroom toxicity.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: Byrain]
#21938733 - 07/13/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I definitely understand where you are coming from, I'd want to see the story too. Thanks for keeping it real and asking for proof like that, I like to provide exacts. This is a hobby of exacts, not guesses or weird stories. This is a science, down to the specifics. So for now, until I find a copy of the story to post I'll call it null for now. When I find it, I'll be back.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21938741 - 07/13/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Damn Eris, you have done some massive posting! You've got some time behind you!
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: BoomBoom]
#21938748 - 07/13/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, it seems like a lot, but if you average it over 17 years, it's only 7.8 posts per day.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21938766 - 07/13/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's more posting than I do. I spend a lot of time thumbing through recent posts and ID's. I also don't reply an awful lot cause there's some crazy people on this thread with a lot more knowledge and understanding of the universe and some are just retarded. Like in the PUB. Nice to meet yah.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: BoomBoom]
#21938792 - 07/13/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Same to you, 
I actually post in binges, lol.
I come on and post a few thousand then I'm gone for a little while except when I was a mod or admin I was always there.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21938836 - 07/13/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Haha I hear that. I was looking through your gallery man and that's got to be the most extensive collection I've ever seen. EVER. But let's not threadjack OP anymore. I'll see y'all around the ol Shroomery again I'm sure!
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: BoomBoom]
#21938851 - 07/13/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Haha, yeah I got mad pics in there but its just 10% of my unique finds from a couple seasons, like 04, 05, 06, if you took all my finds that i didn't have a camera around to take pics of, it would fill up everyone on here's gallery almost.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: BoomBoom]
#21938875 - 07/13/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The thing that's messing me up is the TI is gone.
Trusted Identifiers never had any flags. it used to be a list with ten names, of which i was 2nd. Then someone decided to take the names in Gumby's thread and assign them flags.
The very description when you view this forum in the index, this forum, I wrote it 12 years ago.
Here is the TI team when this was my old stomping grounds. Experienced people who can be trusted with mushroom identification are (this list will grow over time):
- Gumby - eris - ToxicMan - canid - Anno - georgeM - landsnorkler - falcon
IDK anyone else in that list other than ppl who I have met today.
Hunting is something that if you don't give it all you got, you feel like you didn't do your best and I end up avoiding it cause I couldn't answer every single ID like I used to. Back in the day every single ID had a reply by me in it. These days I lost my confidence due to years spacing out and not being into mushrooms. But I'm going back to my roots.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21938944 - 07/13/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice man! Yeah, it takes a lot of interest in the hobby time and dedication to be able to Identify pictures of wild mushrooms. I'm good with actives. One thing about this.hobby is there's always more to learn! Oh and I trust yah, about the galerina story. I just didn't want to freak OP out anymore lol.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: BoomBoom]
#21938954 - 07/13/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks, I agree regarding OP. I remember the old days, /me blows the dust off this pic
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21938977 - 07/13/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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And there was GGreatone234, an old 90s mod that used to be in that list too.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: Byrain]
#21938982 - 07/13/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Byrain said: that story sounds like a tall tale given our current understanding of mushroom toxicity. 
Yea it is kind of hard to believe. It'd be pretty cool to find the story.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: Ran-D]
#21938993 - 07/13/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm gonna have to make this a personal mission to find. ToxicMan might know of it.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21938995 - 07/13/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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eris said: And there was GGreatone234, an old 90s mod that used to be in that list too.
I think he got banned from the site a while back.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: Ran-D]
#21939002 - 07/13/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude that's awesome! Oh the nostalgia for you. Had no idea it was around for so long! Its an honor to have met you!
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21939017 - 07/13/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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In 2004,
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2783559#2783559
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ToxicMan said: The pair on the right are Russulas. There are lots of Russula species, but they cannot be identified accurately to species without a microscope. Many of them are eaten, only a few are poisonous. The poisonous ones in North America all bruise black (or nearly black) or taste very hot (like hot pepper). To taste one, break off a small piece (smaller than a fingernail) from the cap, put it in your mouth, chew (up to a minute - DO NOT SWALLOW ANY), then spit it out. Some of them are so hot you'll swear you're going to develop blisters. Avoid tasting large numbers of them in a day - there is a recorded case of somebody being poisoned that way.
Happy mushrooming!
There is a case like that involving Galerina, it happened around this time, or before.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: MidnightCity]
#21939028 - 07/13/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MidnightCity said:
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eris said: And there was GGreatone234, an old 90s mod that used to be in that list too.
I think he got banned from the site a while back.
True. He had a meltdown/self destructed on here just like john W allan who took a bunch of my Amanita pics and put him on his site. He was known as "mjshroomer"
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21939044 - 07/13/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gotcha. Good enough for me! There's only one problem. I've got pretty large fingernails.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: BoomBoom]
#21939055 - 07/13/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So y'all are the OGs of the Shroomerys.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21939107 - 07/13/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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eris said:
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MidnightCity said:
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eris said: And there was GGreatone234, an old 90s mod that used to be in that list too.
I think he got banned from the site a while back.
True. He had a meltdown/self destructed on here just like john W allan who took a bunch of my Amanita pics and put him on his site. He was known as "mjshroomer"
Man, those must have been the days. I've read through some of the old stuff that pops up from searching. lol
Maybe get with Alan Rockefeller or another mod about your badge, maybe they took it off from inactivity or by accident. Some people also choose not to have it.
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21939117 - 07/13/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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eris said: As long as you spit it out and didn't swallow anything, including juices, you are fine.
I once heard a story of an expert in the field taste testing a deadly Galerina and just tasted a piece the size of a fingernail clipping which they accidentally swallowed. They later died the most horrible death imaginable from mushroom poisoning.
I think you're misquoting this:
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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Byrain said: Still, eating deadly Amanita spp. is a pretty bad idea...
http://mushroomobserver.org/10221?q=1pIzx
Not always. Ken Litchfield has eaten Amanita phalloides twice on purpose and he is fine.
Just small amounts raw, about the size of a fingernail.
From here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19636246#19636246
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: MidnightCity]
#21939143 - 07/13/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, it was a riot,
John Allan had my var formosa pics in one of his books and all, he put used with permission by eris, lol
see for yourself, it still exists on the web version.
http://www.mushroomjohn.org/ammusvarfor1.htm
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Welcome to the friendly world of Amanita muscaria var. formosa, also associated with "Soma." These pages are devoted to images representing this magnificent visionary mushroom.
ALL IMAGES ON THIS PAGE BY ERIS USED BY PERMISSION
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Re: Kinda freaking out... May have tasted Cortinarius rubellus? [Re: eris]
#21939237 - 07/13/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey man that's really cool! Love the Amanita Formosa pictures! That's definitely something to be proud of!
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