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knomadic_niki
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
#21943103 - 07/14/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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knomadic_niki said: i suggested the use of agar because you will be able to see if there are any contaminants within a few days instead of waiting until you expand to bulk sub. it shouldn't require any different of a technique than your g2g process
Yeah, this is what interests me in agar, and I'm looking forward to utilizing it for my upcoming grows, along with my current grain to grain technique and also branching out into soap water for a surface disinfectant variant.
my point was to use the agar to test if your oust actually does anything....
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lovesquare
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lovesquare said:
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knomadic_niki said: i suggested the use of agar because you will be able to see if there are any contaminants within a few days instead of waiting until you expand to bulk sub. it shouldn't require any different of a technique than your g2g process
Yeah, this is what interests me in agar, and I'm looking forward to utilizing it for my upcoming grows, along with my current grain to grain technique and also branching out into soap water for a surface disinfectant variant.
my point was to use the agar to test if your oust actually does anything....
Good idea, I will use both.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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MagicInMichigan
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Registered: 07/07/15
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I feel like I wasted more time with oust/Lysol air sprays instead of focusing on proper sterile technique and that was why my initial contam rate was damn near 50%. After throughly studying sterile technique and asking questions its down to maybe 10% if I get lazy. If it's working, its working whatever. It was a similar type thread that got me using the stuff when I first started like 6 months ago and it was a bummer. Congrats on 100% through 100 jars though, thats dope. Eventually something will get contaminated, its inevitable. It was after my first month or two and 150jars/cakes that I really got shit going right.
We'll all know if he's truly a troll in a couple weeks/months when we see a post saying he lost his 100% success rate because everybody told him to try it without! Lol. Like I said though, can't argue with numbers. I just think it has a lot more to do with your sterile technique being on point inside the box instead of aerosols. Next time I'd just label the thread something a bit different and maybe just approach the criticism with more open-mindedness as opposed to arguing an invalid point. No one was questioning your success, I think they just wanted you to realize it was more how on point your technique was and that the aerosol was just a superstition thing not really rooted in any kind of fact. But yeah, congrats. And you'll like agar I think. I just started this week and it seems to be going well so far, just noticed my first contam from a very dirty old print I had. It is so nice seeing them now instead of having them fuck up fruiting later.
-MIm
Edit: a flow hood can only help if it's done right and make things easier on ya, mad jealous of your soon to come flow hood. One day I get there.
-------------------- “the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars.” I surround myself with people who aren't afraid to live. They have had what they love most taken from them, be it freedom, love, money, or anything for that matter. When you lose your greatest love you also lose your greatest fear, when that happens you are completely and utterly free.
Edited by MagicInMichigan (07/14/15 06:05 PM)
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lovesquare
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I find utilizing the full spectrum sterile technique, both air and surface, alleviates ALL contams, but I would like to try this method while working with agar as it seems a bit more risky with outside access. I will keep everyone updated as I transfer my G2G strategy to agar work.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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MagicInMichigan
Internal conquistador



Registered: 07/07/15
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Loc: Michigan,U.S.A.
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
#21950079 - 07/15/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Even if I don't necessarily agree with the reasoning, I would love to alleviate ALL contams, I'm jealous of that 100% regardless of ho you got it. If I had that instead of the maybe 80%I'm working with(after averaging in my 50%first two months to my 90%+ now) I would have a good 300-350 more jars I didn't lose and that would be ideal.
All this contam talk is making me say fuck it and drop the cash on a flowhood asap. Ugh, $2,300 a month rent+whatever other expenses I incur monthly is really making me want to get ride if this beautiful rooftop loft already... I really think you'll like agar, it's. Fucking awesome IMHO. Makes for very fast colonization and almost guarantee no contams now. Plus it looks so cool when the plate starts to take off. I can't wait to make another 10 or so white morel plates and a. Inch of LC's to feed my soon to be outdoor morel bed for next year. Can't wait to see some shroom pics in the future.
-MIM
-------------------- “the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars.” I surround myself with people who aren't afraid to live. They have had what they love most taken from them, be it freedom, love, money, or anything for that matter. When you lose your greatest love you also lose your greatest fear, when that happens you are completely and utterly free.
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