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lovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: Mad Season]
#21941274 - 07/14/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: OK we get it you're a troll. Just stop promoting garbage and let this thread die already
Not at all worried about what you think, just trying to allow others a contaminant free environment and grow session so they don't have to be halted in their endeavors by something as simple to avoid as contams. I would highly recommend my technique and it has proven successful in the past. But I will try soap and water to replace the hand sanitizer in the future, but I will never stop utilizing the glade+oust, it has too many benefits when it pertains to preventing airborne contaminants.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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spacechildo
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
#21941278 - 07/14/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: Mad Season]
#21941294 - 07/14/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: All I use is soap and water. Not any sanitizers. If you follow my sanitary tek in my sig, you'll see what techniques are. I would advocate my sig way more over a bottle of oust any day of the week.
Next up, how many jars have you done? Also just because you haven't thrown a jar out, doesn't mean it was completely clean either.
You didn't even read this did you OP? Also when I was at 100 jars, I thought I had a great success rate too. Looking back I realize almost every damn jar had bacteria. A mushroom smell doesn't mean shit. Look for ANY wet grains or a thick white cottage cheese look in the mycelium.
Sure I'll use oust next time. It won't improve my success rate though, which is already 99%. That's why we say it's useless. The only 1% is due to my own fuck ups. Making mistakes, dropping stuff, or having my hand hover over open media.
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spacechildo said: exactly, it makes no sense.
my green socks didnt matter and your oust didnt matter. at all. still air is still air you cant clean the air so any attempts at using that to reduce contaminants is futile.
when air is still, everything settles. Why would you need any air sanitizers when everything SHOULD be settled on the bottom or stuck to the walls.
You haven't read anything I've said. I told you what would happen if I used it. And I told you why it doesn't make sense. You didn't tell people HOW you g2g, which is real sterile techniques. However I'm not really even interested in getting trolled anymore.
Unless your techniques are just limited to oust.. in which case I'm just going to hide this thread right now.
Edited by Mad Season (07/14/15 09:40 AM)
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Psilosopherr
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: Mad Season]
#21941304 - 07/14/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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referring to spraying oust as a technique is pretty amusing.
real original
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lovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: Mad Season]
#21941338 - 07/14/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: You didn't tell people HOW you g2g.
Basically I spray the transfer room and adjacent rooms with glade+oust, extremely thoroughly to eliminate airborne contams, making sure to cut off the ac or heat prior. Wipe down the sab with hand sanitizer on all 6 sides, load up my SAB, loosen the rings on the jars for easy access, then thoroughly wipe down them with hand sanitizer. Once everything's sanitized, I spray glade+oust in the SAB and let it setter for a quarter hour or so. Then I take my preshaken master grain jar, and remove the ring.
Now, quickly transfer some grains from the master to your sterilized grain jars, only leaving the lids open for as much time as needed to transfer. I find I can easily use 1 master for a dozen grain transfers. I'm sure you could use it for more, but I find that this is enough grain to ensure a speedy recovery and decent colonization times.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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spacechildo
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
#21941347 - 07/14/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lovesquare said:
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Mad Season said: You didn't tell people HOW you g2g.
Basically I spray the transfer room and adjacent rooms with glade+oust, extremely thoroughly to eliminate airborne contams,
pointless. cant be done. just as the prev 104 postts in this thread have told ya.
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lovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: spacechildo]
#21941357 - 07/14/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: You didn't tell people HOW you g2g.
Basically I spray the transfer room and adjacent rooms with glade+oust, extremely thoroughly to eliminate airborne contams,
pointless. cant be done. just as the prev 104 postts in this thread have told ya.
Huh? That's what I purposely do, it's like a fog in the transfer room, this is how you know it was done right/thoroughly. Plus it's great for a fresher, cleaner house. Great for mushroom growing, great for avoiding contams, great for the air, it's a win win. Also i wanted to add that while letting the fog settle, you can still easily see and be able to work sterily. Just give it about ten minutes or so. Clean air+clean room+SAB+hand sanitizer has worked great, but I will try soap and water to replace the hand sanitizer to save some money if it works.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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Psilosopherr
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
#21941362 - 07/14/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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we all know you use soap and don't have 100% success rates. sssshhhhh
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lovesquare
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rbalzer said: we all know you use soap and don't have 100% success rates. sssshhhhh
Sorry for the confusion, I meant I wanted to replace the hand sanitizer with soap+water wipedown to see if I can still maintain my 100% success rate with zero contams, as you all have recommended, thanks for the tips.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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spacechildo
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
#21941379 - 07/14/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lovesquare said: Clean air+clean room+SAB+hand sanitizer has worked great
YOU DONT HAVE CLEAN AIR.
Is there anybody home? hello? why do you keep repeating this. stop.
oh yeah I forgot, fuck off troll. obvious pubfag is trolling.
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Mad Season
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
#21941388 - 07/14/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm sure you don't use a spoon and just pour it in! throw that g2g technique in your op, and then noobs reading this will get taught real stuff on sterility. They might do soap and water based on the comments or use yours . That's my opinion.
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lovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: spacechildo]
#21941403 - 07/14/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lovesquare said: Clean air+clean room+SAB+hand sanitizer has worked great
YOU DONT HAVE CLEAN AIR.
Is there anybody home? hello? why do you keep repeating this. stop.
oh yeah I forgot, fuck off troll. obvious pubfag is trolling.
Well I would imagine that if you don't have some kind of air purifier in each room of your house your air isn't going to be that clean, that's what I'm saying, that's why I benefit from the glade+oust to alleviate most of the airborne contams before I work in my sab, maybe just soap+water+settling will do the trick, I'm not doubting you guys, but I wouldn't want to risk it in this old home. The air sanitization definitely has something to do with my track record, and those in similar grow environments can definitely benefit.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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insanemike

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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: Mad Season]
#21941413 - 07/14/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Op, if you want cleaner, fresher air, build a flowhood and run it for an hour or two everyday. Air freshioners are a scam and really only mask odors.
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lovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: Mad Season]
#21941415 - 07/14/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: I'm sure you don't use a spoon and just pour it in! throw that g2g technique in your op, and then noobs reading this will get taught real stuff on sterility. They might do soap and water based on the comments or use yours . That's my opinion.
Thanks man, no wouldn't bother with a spoon, just another surface to provide possible contamination, all though a simple wipe down with hand sanitizer would be fine, I think. A quick tap on the side of a jar, get those grains transfered, quickly cap up both jars, and a gentle shake to get things going, is full proof.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: insanemike]
#21941426 - 07/14/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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insanemike said: Op, if you want cleaner, fresher air, build a flowhood and run it for an hour or two everyday. Air freshioners are a scam and really only mask odors.
Hey mike, I'm definitely looking into flowhoods all though I don't have a lot of money to play with (not much at all) but I'll be growing edibles/medicinals in the coming months in my new grow room we recently cleaned out . Will definitely keep you all updated and I have a new camera heading my way, a hand me down from an educated photographer. I can't wait to get it and use it to show you guys what I'm talking about and also do some hunting.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
#21941428 - 07/14/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you are most certainly NOT eliminating airborn contams with oust. why don't you believe 10 people with tons of experience? if you stopped buying hand sanitizer and oust, you could afford a flow hood and actually produce nearly sterile air. in the mean time, you don't need it to use an SAB. save your cash, build a flow hood soon
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insanemike

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I will promise you this. If you build that flowhood, turn it on and leave it to scrub the air for an hour. When you go back into that room and breathe in that air, you will never want to breathe any other air again. OMG, it's almost as good as an orgasm.
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lovesquare
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knomadic_niki said: you are most certainly NOT eliminating airborn contams with oust. why don't you believe 10 people with tons of experience? if you stopped buying hand sanitizer and oust, you could afford a flow hood and actually produce nearly sterile air. in the mean time, you don't need it to use an SAB. save your cash, build a flow hood soon
I wouldn't say I'm completely eliminating them, but definitely reducing the amount of contams inside and outside the SAB, all though the hand sanitizer mega bottle at costco goes a long way, as well as the glade+oust at lowes, I will be investing in a flow hood for my upcoming endeavors in edibles/medicinals. It's not all that expensive but I do agree that flow hoods are the BEST when it comes to sterile techniques as a whole. I'm just simply utilizing what has worked for me, and all though I could change now, I simply could'nt fathom with dealing with contams, as I have avoided completely up to now. I believe my technique and properly releasing endospores and following the correct soaking/boiling/pressure cooking preparation for grains contributes to my success.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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lovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: insanemike]
#21941478 - 07/14/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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insanemike said: I will promise you this. If you build that flowhood, turn it on and leave it to scrub the air for an hour. When you go back into that room and breathe in that air, you will never want to breathe any other air again. OMG, it's almost as good as an orgasm.
Hey Mike, I'll take your word for it brother! I'm looking forward to moving on to advance techniques and technology, I can't wait to breath in that fresh goodness. I'm really excited to get back into growing, and now that I have the space and support, I going to be diving much deeper than before.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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insanemike

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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
#21941518 - 07/14/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just remember that a flowhood is not a substitute for great sterile technique.
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