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Offlinelovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21937407 - 07/13/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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SteveRogers said:
YOU HAVE NO TRACK RECORD AT ALL. You have barely been registered for a month.



That means nothing, you're implying someone has to have been registered here to grow? False. I'm positive more growers stay in the shadows then openly post their grows in an online forum, again you have no merit. My technique works for me, and it will help others.


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If you go down round the bend in the river,
You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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InvisibleSteveRogers
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
    #21937415 - 07/13/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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lovesquare said:
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SteveRogers said:
YOU HAVE NO TRACK RECORD AT ALL. You have barely been registered for a month.



That means nothing, you're implying someone has to have been registered here to grow? False. I'm positive more growers stay in the shadows then openly post their grows in an online forum, again you have no merit. My technique works for me, and it will help others.




I lurked for almost A DECADE before saying one word on this forum. Don't talk to me about absorbing information before shooting my mouth off.


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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
    #21937419 - 07/13/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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lovesquare said:
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SteveRogers said:
YOU HAVE NO TRACK RECORD AT ALL. You have barely been registered for a month.



That means nothing, you're implying someone has to have been registered here to grow? False. I'm positive more growers stay in the shadows then openly post their grows in an online forum, again you have no merit. My technique works for me, and it will help others.



it will help others to fail. You still fail to realize oust has little to do with your success.

I know this falls on deaf ears and is pointless. But your responses are adorable


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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21937423 - 07/13/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
We know you're not in an uproar, but your amusingly childish reactions to our advice is comical.





I never asked for your advice, was simply stating a fact, that has worked in my experience. How's that childish? Again, you make no sense.


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If you go down round the bend in the river,
You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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Offlinelovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21937429 - 07/13/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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SteveRogers said:
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lovesquare said:
Quote:

SteveRogers said:
YOU HAVE NO TRACK RECORD AT ALL. You have barely been registered for a month.



That means nothing, you're implying someone has to have been registered here to grow? False. I'm positive more growers stay in the shadows then openly post their grows in an online forum, again you have no merit. My technique works for me, and it will help others.




I lurked for almost A DECADE before saying one word on this forum. Don't talk to me about absorbing information before shooting my mouth off.



So your openly admitting that you're a hypocrite. On topic, give this a try folks, you won't regret it.


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If you go down round the bend in the river,
You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
    #21937435 - 07/13/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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lovesquare said:
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rbalzer said:
We know you're not in an uproar, but your amusingly childish reactions to our advice is comical.





I never asked for your advice, was simply stating a fact, that has worked in my experience. How's that childish? Again, you make no sense.



I'm aware that I'm being rude and argumentative. You however appear to be completely ignorant of your childishness. This entire thread is your childish reactions to our advice.

(we wouldn't have to give you advice if your "tek" was worth a damn. There's a reason almost everybody disagrees with you.)


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Offlinelovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21937439 - 07/13/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

rbalzer said:
it will help others to fail. You still fail to realize oust has little to do with your success.

I know this falls on deaf ears and is pointless. But your responses are adorable




Glade+Oust is a definitive part of my success, it is a part of my sterile technique, that has proven itself to work time and time again, to not include it would be like giving out a 100 piece puzzle with 95 pieces. Again, do your research, find your niche, do what works for you, this is what works for me, give it a shot.


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If you go down round the bend in the river,
You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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InvisibleSteveRogers
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
    #21937442 - 07/13/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

lovesquare said:
Quote:

SteveRogers said:
Quote:

lovesquare said:
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SteveRogers said:
YOU HAVE NO TRACK RECORD AT ALL. You have barely been registered for a month.



That means nothing, you're implying someone has to have been registered here to grow? False. I'm positive more growers stay in the shadows then openly post their grows in an online forum, again you have no merit. My technique works for me, and it will help others.




I lurked for almost A DECADE before saying one word on this forum. Don't talk to me about absorbing information before shooting my mouth off.



So your openly admitting that you're a hypocrite. On topic, give this a try folks, you won't regret it.




I'm admitting to doing a long term research project and gathering experience, information, and techniques from many trusted cultivators over the years.

You on the other hand are talking out of your own ass after being here less than a menstrual cycle.


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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
    #21937448 - 07/13/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

lovesquare said:
Quote:

rbalzer said:
it will help others to fail. You still fail to realize oust has little to do with your success.

I know this falls on deaf ears and is pointless. But your responses are adorable




Glade+Oust is a definitive part of my success, it is a part of my sterile technique, that has proven itself to work time and time again, to not include it would be like giving out a 100 piece puzzle with 95 pieces. Again, do your research, find your niche, do what works for you, this is what works for me, give it a shot.



genuine curiosity: have you ever tried your procedure without oust?


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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
    #21937449 - 07/13/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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lovesquare said:
I have NEVER lost a single jar, figured I'd share what I utilize to help others




try growing more and you'll see contams too.

the oust is useless because it has no use. if soap and water is all you need everything else is useless by definition.


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Invisibleinsanemike

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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
    #21937454 - 07/13/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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lovesquare said:
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insanemike said:
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lovesquare said:
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If you have a 100% success rate, it was because you have excellent sterile procedure and I commend you for that. What your 100% success rate was not from was oust+glade. Be proud that you have a very good understanding of sterile procedure and leave it at that because these folks are not going to back down.



I could care less if they back down or not, simply stating what has worked for me and sharing that with the community, thank you for your statement, my sterile procedure as a whole is what I recommend, Glade+Oust being a part of that, I'm simply going to leave it out and say that it has no effect which the others are trying to say. A can of glade+oust, some off brand hand sanitizer, a proper SAB, and a clean room will go a long ways.




Promoting oust is not sterile procedure and you did not state what your sterile procedure was in the op. If your sterile procedure as a whole is what you recommend than you should definitely write up a tek that has step by step instructions with a decent amount of pics to follow along with.




Did you even read the original post? Glade+Oust, hand sanitizer, a proper SAB is all I use and I've NEVER failed. Think what you want, I'll stick to what works for me, and if sharing one's own experiences is frowned upon, LOL, this site wouldn't be what it is today.




Don't get jumpy with me, I have not been rude to you at all. I have read the entire op and that is not a sterile procedure, that is what we call a preperaration.


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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: insanemike]
    #21937466 - 07/13/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Granted when I had a trich outbreak I downed my grow room in everything I could: but that's not sterile procedure.


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Offlinelovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21937467 - 07/13/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

SteveRogers said:
I'm admitting to doing a long term research project and gathering experience, information, and techniques from many trusted cultivators over the years.

You on the other hand are talking out of your own ass after being here less than a menstrual cycle.




Yet, I could've been here for a decade lurking like yourself claimed, I have all ready mentioned how long I've been coming to this site, read carefully, I too have done my research, and combined a few things I have learned to come up with my own technique that has worked for me, I wouldn't have it any other way, and I praise all of those that have contributed to not only my success, but everyone's else as well.


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If you go down round the bend in the river,
You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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InvisibleSteveRogers
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
    #21937485 - 07/13/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So after all your research and experience you rely on shitty aerosol sanitizers? I fail to see why you continue to argue this point. Waste of money, time, and introducing toxins to the environment for no reason.

Did you read what I said about one hundred grain to grain transfers in a trich filled room with nothing but soap, water, and an SAB?
The reason this site is what is is today can be attributed to people exposing bullshit like you are posting. This ensures future generations don't rely on a spray, but instead learn proper procedure and more efficient techniques


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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: insanemike]
    #21937487 - 07/13/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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insanemike said:
Don't get jumpy with me, I have not been rude to you at all. I have read the entire op and that is not a sterile procedure, that is what we call a preperaration.




Not at all, but that is 90% of my sterile procedure, I'll admit that I did leave out previously loosening your jar lids to not have to deal with wet surfaces on top of hand sanitized gloves, because that'll never happen :lol:. Preshake your jars to allow a quick and smooth transfer of grains from one jar to the other, all though this wasn't meant to be a full TEK thread, I can go into complete detail if enough interest arises. Thanks mike.


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If you go down round the bend in the river,
You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
    #21937489 - 07/13/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

oopse, so regretting that i jumped on this thread now. this is painful. the oust is an air sanitizer and surface disinfectant. it kills SOME living microbes, although i can't find any information about their testing or backup of their claims. its the same as using lysol spray, or any other aerosol disinfectant in your SAB. it lessens your chances of contamination by reducing the number of living microbes in t he air. However, it will not kill fungal spores or endospores, so if your technique is bad, you'll likely still get contamination but it may take longer to appear. future readers should know that there is no way to completely sterilize an SAB, so being diligent about sterile technique is more important than what cleaning products you use.


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Offlinelovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21937500 - 07/13/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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SteveRogers said:
So after all your research and experience you rely on shitty aerosol sanitizers? I fail to see why you continue to argue this point. Waste of money, time, and introducing toxins to the environment for no reason.

Did you read what I said about one hundred grain to grain transfers in a trich filled room with nothing but soap, water, and an SAB?
The reason this site is what is is today can be attributed to people exposing bullshit like you are posting. This ensures future generations don't rely on a spray, but instead learn proper procedure and more efficient techniques




I'm not arguing at all, simply stating what works for me, I don't rely on any one thing, I utilize what I have learned and use it to my advantage, and that is my procedure as a whole. Call it bullshit, but I guess bullshit has proven itself to be successful, I can't complain. Who would with zero contams :shrug:.


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If you go down round the bend in the river,
You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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Offlinelovesquare
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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: knomadic_niki]
    #21937516 - 07/13/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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knomadic_niki said:
oopse, so regretting that i jumped on this thread now. this is painful. the oust is an air sanitizer and surface disinfectant. it kills SOME living microbes, although i can't find any information about their testing or backup of their claims. its the same as using lysol spray, or any other aerosol disinfectant in your SAB. it lessens your chances of contamination by reducing the number of living microbes in t he air. However, it will not kill fungal spores or endospores, so if your technique is bad, you'll likely still get contamination but it may take longer to appear. future readers should know that there is no way to completely sterilize an SAB, so being diligent about sterile technique is more important than what cleaning products you use.




Thanks for the thoughtful reply, and I agree it is only a portion among other procedures utilized, not the sole part, but simply A part of the technique itself. I myself use hand sanitizer on the walls of my SAB, rings and glass of my jars, and on my gloves, along with the SAB itself, and air sanitizer both inside and outside my SAB, with great success.


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If you go down round the bend in the river,
You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: lovesquare]
    #21937554 - 07/13/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

"Sterile technique refers to procedures by which cultures may be manipulated without infecting the worker or contaminating the cultures or the laboratory environment."

The Oust you're using is part of your preparation.


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Re: Contaminants worst enemy. [Re: Dhearic]
    #21937630 - 07/13/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Dhearic said:
"Sterile technique refers to procedures by which cultures may be manipulated without infecting the worker or contaminating the cultures or the laboratory environment."

The Oust you're using is part of your preparation.



It has proven itself time and time again to alleviate contaminants, regardless of it being a simple part of preparation, and I stand by it.


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If you go down round the bend in the river,
You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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