|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
freeofcharge
Stranger

Registered: 05/24/15
Posts: 39
Last seen: 6 years, 3 months
|
Birthing a yeast contaminated grain
#21936857 - 07/13/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I've birthed a yeast contaminated grain jar. What should I expect of this ? will I get a proper yield ?
|
SteveRogers
gandy dancer


Registered: 10/24/06
Posts: 3,450
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: freeofcharge]
#21936945 - 07/13/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
what do you mean birthed? spawned to a bulk substrate? You can expect a yeast contamination. what kind of question is this?
-------------------- "General, I am loyal to nothing......except The Dream"
|
TheMustardTiger


Registered: 08/19/13
Posts: 4,700
Loc: Sunnyvale Trailer Park
Last seen: 6 years, 5 months
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: SteveRogers]
#21936952 - 07/13/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I think they make a cream for that.
--------------------
|
insanemike

Registered: 02/23/14
Posts: 4,272
|
|
From my experience with yeast infections lol, your substrate will probably never fruit and most likely end up with bacteria and/or trich.
|
SteveRogers
gandy dancer


Registered: 10/24/06
Posts: 3,450
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: insanemike]
#21937030 - 07/13/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
insanemike said: From my experience with yeast infections lol, your substrate will probably never fruit and most likely end up with bacteria and/or trich.
-------------------- "General, I am loyal to nothing......except The Dream"
|
insanemike

Registered: 02/23/14
Posts: 4,272
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: SteveRogers]
#21937107 - 07/13/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SteveRogers said:
Quote:
insanemike said: From my experience with yeast infections lol, your substrate will probably never fruit and most likely end up with bacteria and/or trich.

Price check in lane 2.
|
TheMustardTiger


Registered: 08/19/13
Posts: 4,700
Loc: Sunnyvale Trailer Park
Last seen: 6 years, 5 months
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: insanemike]
#21937144 - 07/13/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Vaginal fungus
--------------------
|
36fuckin5
Alchemycologist


Registered: 08/11/03
Posts: 12,079
Loc: Diving into Mystical Territori...
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: SteveRogers]
#21937314 - 07/13/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SteveRogers said:

If only it'd survive the PC.....
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
|
freeofcharge
Stranger

Registered: 05/24/15
Posts: 39
Last seen: 6 years, 3 months
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21937957 - 07/13/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
The yeast contamination of my spawn is very low and it has been full colonized, I wanna throw out some real fungi of that shit tube ? Do I have any chances for flushes ?
|
TheMustardTiger


Registered: 08/19/13
Posts: 4,700
Loc: Sunnyvale Trailer Park
Last seen: 6 years, 5 months
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: freeofcharge]
#21937964 - 07/13/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
freeofcharge said: The yeast contamination of my spawn is very low and it has been full colonized, I wanna throw out some real fungi of that shit tube ? Do I have any chances for flushes ?
I'm not sure why you're even asking this question. Just put it into fruiting and see what it does. You have absolutely nothing to lose at this point.
--------------------
|
freeofcharge
Stranger

Registered: 05/24/15
Posts: 39
Last seen: 6 years, 3 months
|
|
I'm gonna find out if it worth it at all or not ? any chances ?
|
insanemike

Registered: 02/23/14
Posts: 4,272
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: freeofcharge]
#21938067 - 07/13/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Be careful with that yeast infection. Seriously, it took me some time to get rid of it completely. My jars fully colonized also. What I mean is the cube mycelium colonized right over it. I spawned them jars to bulk substrate. It colonized the bulk substrate just as well as it had with the oats but it never pinned and eventually gave way to trich after 2 weeks in fruiting. My yeast problem came from my bread baking endeavors and more importantly, my carelessness.
|
CMOSS
Back Again


Registered: 07/07/15
Posts: 44
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: insanemike]
#21938083 - 07/13/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Could also just case and fruit your contaminated spawn right out of the jars. Probably get a few fruits and wouldn't potentially be wasting a bunch of bulk material.
|
freeofcharge
Stranger

Registered: 05/24/15
Posts: 39
Last seen: 6 years, 3 months
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: insanemike]
#21938099 - 07/13/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
So what the fuck am I suppose to do with comparing brewing and growing since I am also a brewer too. Thank god that I have another un-contaminated jar. Also I have birthing a pf trich contaminated tek (PTCT!! for sure ) and have got a single pin from that to save the culture.
regardless of my sad story, is there anybody who have birthing a yeast contaminated tube with flushes/flush ?
|
SteveRogers
gandy dancer


Registered: 10/24/06
Posts: 3,450
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: freeofcharge]
#21938123 - 07/13/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
freeofcharge said: So what the fuck am I suppose to do with comparing brewing and growing since I am also a brewer too. Thank god that I have another un-contaminated jar. Also I have birthing a pf trich contaminated tek (PTCT!! for sure ) and have got a single pin from that to save the culture.
regardless of my sad story, is there anybody who have birthing a yeast contaminated tube with flushes/flush ?
So Trich and Yeast are involved now? It's not impossible to get fruit bodies from contaminated substrates. The reason everyone, including myself, is advising you to start over is because you are contaminating your entire grow area for a negligible return. Fucking up future projects and wasting time waiting for jars to never colonize because they are sick is an inefficient use of time and resources.
Yes, you Can get fruits off a miracle cake that somehow overcomes the yeast and throws up a hail mary fruit. However, in the same time frame you could get ten times the weight and have better specimens to clone if you chose to do it the right way and not screw around with contaminated jars.
-------------------- "General, I am loyal to nothing......except The Dream"
|
azur
God of Fuck



Registered: 04/21/12
Posts: 28,103
Loc: Daid
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: freeofcharge]
#21938277 - 07/13/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
OP. Listen to mike. Yeast spawn will not fruit. Start over. Let me guess, liquid culture ?
|
36fuckin5
Alchemycologist


Registered: 08/11/03
Posts: 12,079
Loc: Diving into Mystical Territori...
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: azur]
#21939838 - 07/13/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
It's fucked. Throw it out. The only contam worth fighting is cobweb, and that's only if it's late in fruiting, and really unless you have a GH it's not worth saving for another flush.
Any other contams at any stage = trash.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
|
azur
God of Fuck



Registered: 04/21/12
Posts: 28,103
Loc: Daid
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21939885 - 07/13/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I beg to differ. Though it would be best to toss, but you can pull fruits from bacterial spawn all day long. Just look at half the pics in cult. And fuck cobweb. I've only had ut a few times and it won. There are a few contams that can be slowed down, but you should only try it if you're very experienced. And if you're very experienced, you shouldn't see many conrams.
|
freeofcharge
Stranger

Registered: 05/24/15
Posts: 39
Last seen: 6 years, 3 months
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: azur]
#21940455 - 07/14/15 02:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
OK, any way I'm gonna birthing that sucker since our home has 3 floor. one for brewing, one for trich/yeast projects and another for god healthy ones.
I will post the results...
|
SteveRogers
gandy dancer


Registered: 10/24/06
Posts: 3,450
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: freeofcharge]
#21940875 - 07/14/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
freeofcharge said: OK, any way I'm gonna birthing that sucker since our home has 3 floor. one for brewing, one for trich/yeast projects and another for god healthy ones.
I will post the results...
I have a special floor for trich/yeast projects too......the bottom of my fire pit.
-------------------- "General, I am loyal to nothing......except The Dream"
|
Mad Season
hookers and blackjack



Registered: 09/16/12
Posts: 12,666
Loc: Canada
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: SteveRogers]
#21941008 - 07/14/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Hahahaha oh my. You'll just raise concentration of trich spores in your HOME. Not floor. Yeah that's right. All over your home. I bet if you left a floor untouched it'd get COVERED in dust. That's how much air moves around the house. That's why working in open air sucks dick. No such thing as completely still air in open air. Seriously. Just throw it outside and make more. It's not like outdoors is the end of all your projects.
I got massive guys from outside in my contamination pile to pick right now, and I live in a zone 2 hardiness zone. Think about that one for a while haha
Edited by Mad Season (07/14/15 08:14 AM)
|
azur
God of Fuck



Registered: 04/21/12
Posts: 28,103
Loc: Daid
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: Mad Season]
#21941025 - 07/14/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Yeast contaminated spawn will not fruit. Period
|
insanemike

Registered: 02/23/14
Posts: 4,272
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: azur]
#21941082 - 07/14/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Az, I did not take your advice either and had to find out the hard way. Some people are just hard headed, like me.
|
Kizzle
Misanthrope


Registered: 08/30/11
Posts: 9,855
Last seen: 15 hours, 11 minutes
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: freeofcharge]
#21941124 - 07/14/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
My yeast problem came from my bread baking endeavors and more importantly, my carelessness.
Heh, sounds logical but there are also yeasts that grow naturally on your skin. I'm willing to bed you had your skin with you during the inoculation and not your bread making supplies.
--------------------
|
insanemike

Registered: 02/23/14
Posts: 4,272
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: Kizzle]
#21941307 - 07/14/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kizzle said:
Quote:
My yeast problem came from my bread baking endeavors and more importantly, my carelessness.
Heh, sounds logical but there are also yeasts that grow naturally on your skin. I'm willing to bed you had your skin with you during the inoculation and not your bread making supplies. 
It's quite possible that it came from my skin or something else that I had touched and forgot to disinfect. But, taking into consideration that I always take a shower and put on a clean tyvek suit as part of my sterile preperation lead me to believe that it was from a foreign source and not from myself. I never encountered a yeast problem until I began bread baking for the first time after getting into mycology. Bread baking was put on hault because I dove so far into mycology that I had no extra time on my hands for another hobby. After that one incident, I completely stopped bread baking again and haven't encountered that contamination since( just an observation). I am not saying that I stopped baking because of the yeast problem. I just haven't found the time to get back into it again.
The main point of my original statement though was more about me screwing up my sterile procedure than it was bread baking. I just included the bread baking part because it may have increased my spore load at that particular time and may have been part of the equation. I did not mean for it to sound like it was the entire equation. Sorry for any misunderstanding. I don't want to contribute to spreading false information.
|
azur
God of Fuck



Registered: 04/21/12
Posts: 28,103
Loc: Daid
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: insanemike]
#21941315 - 07/14/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
You watch that video yet mike?
|
insanemike

Registered: 02/23/14
Posts: 4,272
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: azur]
#21941376 - 07/14/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Yes. I watched it a couple of times. The video was very pixelated but from what I can see, you have a very nice set up going on down there.
|
azur
God of Fuck



Registered: 04/21/12
Posts: 28,103
Loc: Daid
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: insanemike]
#21941417 - 07/14/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Yea. Sorry. Cell phone videos sent via text suck
|
insanemike

Registered: 02/23/14
Posts: 4,272
|
Re: Birthing a yeast contaminated grain [Re: azur]
#21941440 - 07/14/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
It's all good. Thanks for making the video.
|
|