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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21936796 - 07/13/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Looks like cobweb to me


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21936820 - 07/13/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You could try H2O2, but I would just cut to the chase and....



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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21936837 - 07/13/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not good. I'd toss it.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #21936859 - 07/13/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

how will cobweb mold affect the fruits?  Will the substrate not fruit?

Does it have nasty compounds that could be toxic, and transfer to the fruits?


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21936912 - 07/13/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Use the search engine. This has been covered over 1000000000000 times. Fuck


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21936931 - 07/13/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How fast is the whispy groth growing?  If it's rapidly growing it's cobweb and you should vaporize it or toss it if you don't have laser beam on hand.. lol


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #21936981 - 07/13/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

During a 4th flush on BRF cakes, what could have been cobweb was observed on the bottoms of the cakes.

Do fruits that came from those cakes have anything nasty in them absorbed from the cobweb, if it was cobweb?    There was no nasty green or black mold, and it is uncertain if it was cobweb to begin with.


It has also been noted that cobweb usually will lead to green and black mold.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: meowshroom]
    #21937016 - 07/13/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Those fruits are fine when cracker dry.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21937140 - 07/13/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No need to be a grammar nazi, English could even be their second language.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21937172 - 07/13/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

*See DeathStar post above. Sorry Bud.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21937184 - 07/13/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah take it outside and bury it, hope that you get a few off of it before it dies.  Start anew


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21937263 - 07/13/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The search function reveals that you should try spraying it with a dilute mixture of H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide).

Lots of good results with that...  but, the jedis are gonna feel it if you end up tossing the whole shebang.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21937280 - 07/13/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've gotten fruits from my contam pile- but the longer you have them inside the better chance they have to spread.





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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #21937351 - 07/13/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't see any contamination. Just weak areas of mycelium.  Cobweb usually lays over the top of the substrate or casing layer.

I say wait. If it really is cobweb it will cover that whole sub in the next 24 - 36 hours.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #21937362 - 07/13/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Really? That looks like nothing other than cobweb to me- that really thin almost polyfil like strands with black dots on them? Sorry but I have to call foul, that's cobweb


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #21937378 - 07/13/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Black dots?


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21937406 - 07/13/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are the lighter mycelium areas growing at a different rate than the obviously stronger areas?  The growth rate is going to be the giveaway in the situation. Can we get another picture from a different angle?


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21937414 - 07/13/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In the very middle of that picture you see a mound of cobweb with one right next to it and healthy mycelium above it. Looks like cobweb laden with spores to me. I could be wrong but I've dealt with this a few times.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21937475 - 07/13/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I'd put money on it being cobweb


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21937553 - 07/13/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hit it with peroxide and hope, or bury it and hope, sorry man.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21938164 - 07/13/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What did you use as bulk sub? If you cover i guess you're fucked though. Toss it or try to fruit it if youre that desperate.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr] * 1
    #21938312 - 07/13/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Cobweb mold can't survive in conditions with FAE. Cobweb grows in stagnant, CO2 dense air. If you're giving it enough FAE then you should be fine. Just wait and see. Don't listen to these idiots telling you to toss it. Worst comes to worse you can hit it with peroxide. Just wait. Even if it IS cobweb mold, it isn't the end of the world.

Edit: Oh, and AVOID spraying it with peroxide unless you are completely certain that you are dealing with cobweb mold. You risk damaging and weakening your mycelium, giving competitors the upper hand.

Do you have holes in your tub???


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Jonr]
    #21939570 - 07/13/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Once I hit it with peroxide do I keep it in the light or do I cover it back up?




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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: meowshroom]
    #21939873 - 07/13/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dude. It is cobweb. I'm certain of it. Like I said you have a couple options- whatever you want to do. But it is not near colonized enough for the mycelium to get an upper hand IMO, you can try peroxide, or take it outside, try to clear out as much of the contam as possible, break up and bury the healthy rest. I have a cluster of 7 coming up from my contam pile right now. Try the peroxide, read read read, check to see how it looks, read read read, decide whether to let it keep going, read read read, read read read, probably end up burying it.


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    #21941038 - 07/14/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: meowshroom]
    #21941050 - 07/14/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd honestly just say bye to it. This is day 11 of colonization. It should have easily been finished by now. If not at least way further along than what it is right now. Should be very close to done. I'm 100% sure it isn't cobweb. Cobby is extremely aggressive. It'd have the whole thing covered by now, and it's WAYYY wispier. Dactylium is commonly mistaken for cobby. It might be something related, or just extremely wispy mycelium, but the substrate must be too wet or something for it to be this damn slow.

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    #21950942 - 07/16/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Pretty nasty looking in there. I sure hope you've got more jars going as we speak.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21950961 - 07/16/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It looks like cobweb, most likely trich though.

The mycelium growth looks familiar to me also.

It looks like it did when I was testing higher water concentrations in my casing layers.  It looks like you might of used a bit too much water in your substrate and the mycelium just take for ever to colonize overly wet parts, which will lead to eventual contamination. 

10 days though, that whole thing should be white.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? UPDATE [Re: Jonr]
    #21951064 - 07/16/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Ok this is a UPDATE: I started fanning my monotub and I also added a little  peroxide  spray to the "infected" areas.  So far the mycelium has doubled and the the "cobweb" stalled.  Going to keep this up just to see if it works. If not I'll start over





sounds like the right steps to me!  I'd bet it's going to work out for you.  Just be patient.  And maybe start fanning a bit more to dry it up a tad?  Obviously you're wanting to avoid FAE for the time being, but since this has turned into an experiment, you have to be open minded and keep track of what works.  Best of luck!


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    #21951086 - 07/16/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Pretty nasty looking in there. I sure hope you've got more jars going as we speak.




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Pretty nasty looking in there. I sure hope you've got more jars going as we speak.




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looks like you're dealing with a whole lot more than cobweb there..




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    #21951127 - 07/16/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

where? I just see fuzzy molds..


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    #21951184 - 07/16/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Everything that looks like little cotton balls is trich, and the places holding the water just looks like colonizing trich.  If it was cobweb the whole tub would of been eaten up by now.

Basically, everything that is whiter than white on the surface of that tub is trich.


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    #21951200 - 07/16/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

well I beg to differ :shrug:

cant see any bright trich spots at all but it doesnt really matter what name the contam has IMO.


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It's either trich or SUPER tomentose growth on a uneven surface.


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    #21951228 - 07/16/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

when you say trich do you just mean random contam or actual trichoderma?
because none of that is trichoderma. search some posts with pics and you'll see how trich looks very different from that.


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Not trich. Could be myc, or it could be a retardedly fluffy white mold.


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    #21951276 - 07/16/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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when you say trich do you just mean random contam or actual trichoderma?
because none of that is trichoderma. search some posts with pics and you'll see how trich looks very different from that.




Yes.. It does.. I have had too many close encounters with it to know what it looks like.  If it does not turn green in the next 2 days I will be surprised.


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    #21951289 - 07/16/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not sure I understood that..? there's plenty of molds that turn green besides trich...


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    #21951427 - 07/16/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm still waiting on what your spawn ratio is. It looks like cubensis to me over anything green, but we'll see in a few days. The only reason why I think it looks like shit is the retarded uneven growth, the extreme wetness on the bottom, and the fact we're now on day 12. I think op needs to mix it WAYY better, not make the substrate so wet (every handful squeezed to field capacity), and make sure he isn't spawning dirty spawn.


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Re: First bulk grow is this contam? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21951490 - 07/16/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I knew I felt a disturbance in the force!:cool: Could be, cobweb spreads very fast, in a day or two it would cover the whole surface.


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