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Guns control, where do you stand?
#21936001 - 07/13/15 03:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just curious. I've seen some people voice their opinions both for and against. What is the pubs general consensus on it?
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21936006 - 07/13/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's in the constitution. We have a constitutional right to own guns. Until and unless that right is removed from the constitution, all gun control is unconstitutional. I realize the courts don't 100% side with me on this, but this is how I feel.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: nooneman]
#21936008 - 07/13/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Laws change. I just know which side of the gun I'd like to be on.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: rooster149]
#21936011 - 07/13/15 03:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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In order for the constitution to change, all 50 states have to unanimously ratify the same amendment. Good luck with that.
I would be surprised if ANY constitutional amendments get passed within the next 500 years. I wouldn't be surprised if the US ceases to exist before a new constitutional amendment is passed.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: nooneman]
#21936026 - 07/13/15 03:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Constitution argument is what worries me the most. It's starting to seem like that part of the constitution just doesn't matter anymore. Doesn't even need to be amended, people are just going to willfully ignore it.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21936028 - 07/13/15 04:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What annoys me is the people who assume our right to bare arms is for hunting. We are entitled to military grade weapons in order to combat a tyrannical government should the circumstance arise.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: Acaterpillar]
#21936037 - 07/13/15 04:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The idea of keeping a tyrannical government in check is unthinkable to most Americans yet it's the main reason for the second amendment. Slowly but surely they whittle away the 2nd until eventually they will have the upper hand. It will take some time, but with all our rights they play small ball.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: Astral Pain]
#21936044 - 07/13/15 04:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well it is kinda unthinkable at this point. We're pretty much limited to small arms with no automatics (we can get them, but depending on where you live, good fucking luck). Meanwhile the military has Apaches, bombers, fighters, tanks, etc etc.
They've pretty much already got the upper hand. Have for quite a while.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: Astral Pain]
#21936071 - 07/13/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If it was a guarantee that every citizen was aware of the situation there would be more numbers, but the majority would probably hop right on the fema camp truck. It would never get to that point and would most likely evolve into a communist system over time. The only reason to have a gun would be like the movie "The Road".
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: nooneman]
#21936088 - 07/13/15 05:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nooneman said: In order for the constitution to change, all 50 states have to unanimously ratify the same amendment.
Except... no.
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A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). When the OFR verifies that it has received the required number of authenticated ratification documents, it drafts a formal proclamation for the Archivist to certify that the amendment is valid and has become part of the Constitution. This certification is published in the Federal Register and U.S. Statutes at Large and serves as official notice to the Congress and to the Nation that the amendment process has been completed.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution/
Fun facts: The 27th took 202 years, 7 months, 12 days to ratify.
The 18th (prohibition of alcohol) was the first to include a deadline for ratification. (7 years)
The 21st Amendment repealed the 18th Amendment on December 5, 1933. The amendment remains the only constitutional amendment to be repealed in its entirety; leaving only the power to regulate transportation solely to the federal government.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21936106 - 07/13/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Well it is kinda unthinkable at this point. We're pretty much limited to small arms with no automatics (we can get them, but depending on where you live, good fucking luck). Meanwhile the military has Apaches, bombers, fighters, tanks, etc etc.
You can vote them out you know. You can run for president yourself too. This coup or whatever it is you want is a slap in the face of democracy, it's what happen in shit countries. There is no reason you can't make a better nation, besides your defeatist attitude. That is the only thing stopping you.
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Sanguin3 said: It's a constitutional RIGHT, nuff said
This isn't America, it's the shroomey. To me your constitution is good for toilet paper.
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Acaterpillar said: What annoys me is the people who assume our right to bare arms is for hunting. We are entitled to military grade weapons in order to combat a tyrannical government should the circumstance arise.
I am one of those people for sure. Hunting is great thing, I love it. The idea a bunch of red neck trash is going to overthrow the government is just retarded though. I also oppose self defense with a fire arm under almost all circumstances. Mainly since its a made up thing that doesn't really happen. Keeping a gun under the pillow just endangers your kids it doesn't improve your safety.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: my3rdeye]
#21936174 - 07/13/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm against them and for them haha.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: nooneman]
#21936241 - 07/13/15 07:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nooneman said: In order for the constitution to change, all 50 states have to unanimously ratify the same amendment. Good luck with that.
I would be surprised if ANY constitutional amendments get passed within the next 500 years. I wouldn't be surprised if the US ceases to exist before a new constitutional amendment is passed.
3/4 of the states (38) are required to ratify an ammendment. We average about a new amendment every ten years or so.
Man, don't they teach civics in schools any more.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: Acaterpillar]
#21936252 - 07/13/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Acaterpillar said: What annoys me is the people who assume our right to bare arms is for hunting. We are entitled to military grade weapons in order to combat a tyrannical government should the circumstance arise.
Only a radical minority think the people are entitled to own sophisticated military weaponry. Even Scalia has said it is absurd to think that the second amendment's modern purpose is to keep the federal government in check because military firepower is just overwhelming.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: nooneman]
#21936263 - 07/13/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nooneman said: It's in the constitution. We have a constitutional right to own guns. Until and unless that right is removed from the constitution, all gun control is unconstitutional. I realize the courts don't 100% side with me on this, but this is how I feel.
No court has ever ruled that the second amendment bars the government from regulating gun ownership.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: koods]
#21936299 - 07/13/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gun are for those who don't have the balls to stab someone
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: Patlal]
#21936305 - 07/13/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I stand on the opposite side as the people against guns.
With a loaded firearm.
or fire finger.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21936354 - 07/13/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wish gov would pay people monthly $400 for choosing an option to wave their 2nd amendment right. $$$ helps all.
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21936368 - 07/13/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i say arm everyone, including the children. fuck gun control. Population control and weeding out the stupid is what we really need
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Re: Guns control, where do you stand? [Re: sprinkles]
#21936375 - 07/13/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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a guns only purpose is to kill, so when i was a teen i was against guns.
now i think people need to go away and I root for death in all forms.
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