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Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming?
    #21935652 - 07/12/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dreaming is one of my main interests as of late (a combination of the movie waking life and the book "man and his symbols." highly recommend both :wink:)

Was thinking about eating a mushroom before bed tonight and wondering if anybody else had tried it that could share their experience. (any psychedelics, but preferably psilocybin since I'm not gonna 'waste' rare LSD on sleeping)

I know I've never had memorable dreams after a night of psychedelicy, but hallucinogens do seem to enable the conscious mind to access unconscious material. I think there could be a connection.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21935666 - 07/12/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think it's worth a try. I've personally have never done it, but it sounds like an awesome idea. I've been looking into micro dosing to help treat my bipolar personally.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Steelfox] * 2
    #21935684 - 07/13/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Micro dosing is great for treating neurosis IME. Its like it subtly nudges you towards healthier ways of thinking.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #21935689 - 07/13/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've tried but it just tends to make me stay up for some reason


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21935697 - 07/13/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
I've tried but it just tends to make me stay up for some reason



damn, that's what I was afraid of.

Maybe a sub-perceptual dose is in order.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21935713 - 07/13/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe micro dose and then smoke some cannabis to take the stimulating edge off :shrug: I know dreams after mushrooms can be amazingly intense


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #21935760 - 07/13/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe micro dose and then smoke some cannabis to take the stimulating edge off :shrug: I know dreams after mushrooms can be amazingly intense



twould be a good idea if cannabis didn't inhibit dreaming. at least for me it does. Trying to quit smoking altogether just so I can get dreams back full force.

glad to hear that mushroom dreams are a thing though.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21935798 - 07/13/15 12:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I took about 0.7g and went to bed halfway through the trip once. Had great dreams but it was years ago and i have difficulty remembering them. I did smoke some cannabis, about 0.5g.

It does seem much harder to sleep on anything over a gram IME


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21935874 - 07/13/15 01:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I cant imagine trying to sleep after taking shrooms. Shrooms wire me like no other.

might try it thou, just to see.

If u want really vivid dreams, try mexican dream herb.

also, ive had vivid dreams after LSA trips (morning glory). Its tough to sleep, but much easier to  than on Acid.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21936356 - 07/13/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have done it. It's hard still, because if you want to dream and trip, you better make damn sure you fall asleep before the micro dose even begins to start.

I've taken 3 grams and fell asleep once, it was nice but I woke up later and tripped my nuts off for 3 hours before I could go back to sleep.

I've also done .5 grams a few times, and you do see weird shroom/dmt like patterns in your dream... At some point you may reach a point where you'll see a form of patterns in front of you in your dream, and time will freeze, and you'll just be watching that pattern forever. It's nuts.

But again, if you wake up - you're up for a while unless you're under a sleep aid. I think the mushrooms just make people think too much. And an active mind keeps you awake. Maybe if you could silence your mind, you could return to sleep.

To enhance dreams without shrooms... Look into vaping/smoking dream herbs, certain types of cheese, or other diets with the ability to help dreams. Often times, if I smoke weed early in the day, like say noon, and if it COMPLETELY wears off by 6-9 (bed time), then I'll have crazy dreams. But don't sleep high (with weed) or you probably won't have any dreams.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: topherchris]
    #21936393 - 07/13/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've been doing small doses of cubes (say 1.5g max dry)
around 2-4 hours before bedtime
and enjoying a bit of closed eye visions and then decent sleep.

I wake up early feeling good, better rested than usual, the day after.
Then there usually follows a couple of nights of deeper sleep than usual
where I dream less or I don't remember it as much.

Psilocybin seems to stabilise and improve my sleep rather than enhance dreams.
I don't know - the effect varies as the days go by I think maybe enhanced dreams
do come about a week after a trip but it's hard to see a constant pattern there.

I quit weed many months ago and went through some surprising adjustments.
I love dreaming - rather like trips - even bad ones tend to make me feel better after.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Nun]
    #21936466 - 07/13/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm a daily potsmoker, so I remember my dreams maybe once in a month.

But Amanitas tend to make me dream very realistic and lucid, sometimes a few days in a row. I'm not talking about dosing right before sleep, it's just most of the time I do Amanitas, the following nights are full of profound dreamimg.
There is quite some information about the dream enhancing qualities of fly agaric mushrooms in the internet to be found.

I never had this enhancment with Psilos and I've never heard of it before.. but I never went asleep on a microdose of mushrooms either.

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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21936544 - 07/13/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

try smoking mugwort or putting it under your pillow.  you'll have some crazy dreams.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21936588 - 07/13/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've wanted to try this with ACRB/PHS yage, take a few small sips before sleep.

I take peganum harmala seeds before sleep from time to time, not in a 3g dose, maybe half that, and it does appear to enhance my dreaming experience, keep in mind these doses shouldn't do all that much to you otherwise, I mean I can tell there's harmine in my system, but those not as sensitive May not even notice it.

Aren't their nootropics that claim to enhance dreaming?

Has anybody had experience with compounds specifically for dreaming like Calea zacatechichi?

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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21936609 - 07/13/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've wanted to try this with ACRB/PHS yage, take a few small sips before sleep.

I take peganum harmala seeds before sleep from time to time, not in a 3g dose, maybe half that, and it does appear to enhance my dreaming experience, keep in mind these doses shouldn't do all that much to you otherwise, I mean I can tell there's harmine in my system, but those not as sensitive May not even notice it.

Aren't their nootropics that claim to enhance dreaming?

Has anybody had experience with compounds specifically for dreaming like Calea zacatechichi?

-E. Borodin




I've heard good things about nootropics and dreaming but haven't personally tested. I cannot sleep with psychedelics either... Maybe weed would help, but I'm curious to test it out.

What would be considered a micro dose? Less than 1g?


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21936683 - 07/13/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm a daily potsmoker, so I remember my dreams maybe once in a month.

But Amanitas tend to make me dream very realistic and lucid, sometimes a few days in a row. I'm not talking about dosing right before sleep, it's just most of the time I do Amanitas, the following nights are full of profound dreamimg.
There is quite some information about the dream enhancing qualities of fly agaric mushrooms in the internet to be found.

I never had this enhancment with Psilos and I've never heard of it before.. but I never went asleep on a microdose of mushrooms either.

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intreresting, I'll have to look into the amanita for this. Got a bag full in the freezer that I never tried.

I've got some calea Z, haven't experimented with it too much yet, Haven't been super impressed with it but I've never smoked all that much of it at once.

Mugwort I'll have to try :thumbup:

peganum harmala is an interesting suggestion..I just got done extracting harmalas so maybe I'll give that a go as well

thanks for all the replies guys. more than I would have expected.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21936748 - 07/13/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I once took 7 gs and tried to meditate while laying down. Next thing I knew I woke up while peaking and it was scary as hell because I forgot I took that dose lol. I didn't dream durning that short nap...


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: SuperFly]
    #21936793 - 07/13/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I once took 7 gs and tried to meditate while laying down. Next thing I knew I woke up while peaking and it was scary as hell because I forgot I took that dose lol. I didn't dream durning that short nap...



this is a story I've heard a surprising number of times. People take a sizeable dose and then somehow manage to fall asleep. Even stranger they don't dream.

Btw everyone: I ate a very small dose before bed last night. I dreamt that I was thrust into a large group of people I didn't know who wanted to do a bunch of things that I didn't want to do, yet it seemed like I had to do them. (I think the strangers may have represented parts of my unconcious that I'm not well acquainted with. They were showing that if I let them guide me, I will have to push my limits by doing things I don't want to do.)

interpreting dreams is so interesting. Got to help my brother interpret one that was quite confusing to him.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21937234 - 07/13/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

On weeknights my wife goes to bed at 11:00 so she can get up with the kids. Quite often I'll stay up later in my mancave working, playing guitar, internetting. Once in a while I'll throw back a gelcap containing .35 gram. Or maybe two of them. I get a trippy buzz and then around 1am when I start to get tired I go to bed with music in my ear buds. It's blissful, I love it. Microdose doesn't last that long, so I don't have trouble drifting off. Best not to do this on a day when I've slept late because it probably will cause trouble getting to sleep.


Do you want to dream like crazy? Ask anyone who has tried to quit smoking by using the nicotine patch. I've heard it so many times - you wake up exhausted from a night of intense dreaming.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Universe]
    #21937240 - 07/13/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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On weeknights my wife goes to bed at 11:00 so she can get up with the kids. Quite often I'll stay up later in my mancave working, playing guitar, internetting. Once in a while I'll throw back a gelcap containing .35 gram. Or maybe two of them. I get a trippy buzz and then around 1am when I start to get tired I go to bed with music in my ear buds. It's blissful, I love it. Microdose doesn't last that long, so I don't have trouble drifting off. Best not to do this on a day when I've slept late because it probably will cause trouble getting to sleep.


Do you want to dream like crazy? Ask anyone who has tried to quit smoking by using the nicotine patch. I've heard it so many times - you wake up exhausted from a night of intense dreaming.



ooh, now there's one I've never heard before. thanks

Perhaps that super potent form of tobacco has a use. nicotina rustica I want to say.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21937457 - 07/13/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The best substance I've come across for LD'ing is Galantamine. Here's a post from my journal detailing one experiment with it:

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I've been doing more experimentation with this substance, usually on Sat and Sun mornings when I don't have to be up too early. My findings so far are that timing is key – from ones bedtime to what time one wakes up and doses, to how long one stays awake.

The most successful formula I've hit upon is bedtime around 2:30 am. Take 600 mg of alpha gpc (choline) and 200 mg of 5-htp for REM rebound.

Wake after 4 hours sleep and take 16 mg Galantamine and another 600 mg of alpha GPC and a tablet of high strength vitamin B. The one I’m using has 714 times the RDA of B6, so pretty high. The B vitamin might be unneeded, but there’s a lot of research showing that B6 increases both dream recall and vividity.

It should be noted that I regularly go to sleep around 2:30-3am, so other people might have to find the right places within their own circadian rhythm – this is what works for me.

I also take Piracetam after the Lucid Dreams to counter the effects of the Galantamine – I've read this stops tolerance building.

At first the 16 mg Galantamine was too much, but taking it at the correct time within the sleep cycle (and perhaps a certain familiarity with its effects at this dose) ensures it doesn't affect getting back to sleep.

I have been using a mind machine over the past week (a Laxman), and using it while meditating, this might explain the lucidity and control felt in this morning’s experiments.

On taking the Galantamine this morning, I did a breath based meditation, which led me into sleep. Also, when going to sleep last night, I set the intent to have an OBE or a Lucid Dream while also doing a breath based meditation.

The Lucid Dreams themselves were just phenomenal. They started off a bit hazy and perhaps driven by base desire (a link with the initial low lucidity?) but after utilising a tactile based reinforcement technique (stamping my feet and clapping my hands hard) they quickly turned into experiences in which I had full emotional and tactile sensation. At one point I tasted a bit of card, and I could feel its glossy texture on my tongue. It was pretty amazing.

The characters I interacted with in the LDs seemed fully aware and capable of deep conversation.

I experienced no sleep paralysis just LD after LD, after false awakening, after LD. I actually didn't know how to wake up! I've never experienced anything like this before, usually LDs don’t last long and one tries to extend them, but I felt like I’d been in the LDs for hours and I couldn't wake up. I physically felt apprehension for a short while and went and spoke to one of the LD characters near me at the time about this.

Not long after this I woke up very groggy, and asked my wife if I was awake, I then stumbled to the window and opened it, and climbed onto the sill. She was shouting that I was awake and to get away from the window. Waves were crashing below, which should have told me that I was still in a LD. She pulled me from the window and back into bed. Not long after I managed to force myself awake. I think the hazy nature was because I was near waking, so neither reality or the LD environment had complete grasp of my senses.

During the LDs I seemed to have complete control. At one point I wanted to visit my daughter, and I found myself in a locale which was touched with her presence. It looked more child-like. I found her and picked her up and walked with her for a while.

After some time we found ourselves in a narrow passage, flanked on each side by tall, old stone brick walls. Trees were overhead, and I sensed we were in a countryside locale. At one end of the passage was an unkempt looking youth, at the other a fox like beast.

The youth was telling me the beast was dangerous and I should stay away. I next seemed to be infused with knowledge of the situation, I flew up to get a view of the area I was in, and was experiencing an influx of knowledge. The people the youth belong to had taken some of the fox like beasts ancestors into captivity and bred them with other creatures. They had created a troll like form of the fox creature and now there was animosity on both sides.

Other experiences included flying military style helicopters while shouting with glee as I swooped at high speed across a green countryside landscape. I was talking to other people in nearby helicopters joining me in this game.

I had quite a few experiences of speaking to people I know in RL, they were highly articulate, and we could have full conversations. But they didn't recognise me. It was interesting to note the expressions moving across their face as they tried to work out who I was.

Most of the experiences were bright and good. A couple were dark - interestingly, it was when I entered dark rooms that I felt any negative presence, or felt constrained by an negative entity. But having such a degree of lucidity, I easily escaped these situations.

I'm still smiling as I type up these experiences. Again, I've never experienced not being able to wake up from LDs before!




Galantamine effects the acetylcholine receptors, nicotine does also, which explains its effects in inducing LD's (for people who haven't built a tolerance to nicotine.)

I can induce LD's without using substances, but it usually requires a fair bit of work beforehand, these substances make it a lot easier and also make the LD's a lot more coherent and longer lasting.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21937636 - 07/13/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Coincidentiaoppositorum said:
Has anybody had experience with compounds specifically for dreaming like Calea zacatechichi?

-E. Borodin




Yes, very much recommended
Havent tried microdosing for this specifically, but stopping weed and smoking or drinking some calea really gives you intense dreams


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: thoraxx]
    #21939999 - 07/13/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

how much calea do you typically smoke to get effects?


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: misterjingo]
    #21940027 - 07/13/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The best substance I've come across for LD'ing is Galantamine. Here's a post from my journal detailing one experiment with it:

Quote:

I've been doing more experimentation with this substance, usually on Sat and Sun mornings when I don't have to be up too early. My findings so far are that timing is key – from ones bedtime to what time one wakes up and doses, to how long one stays awake.

The most successful formula I've hit upon is bedtime around 2:30 am. Take 600 mg of alpha gpc (choline) and 200 mg of 5-htp for REM rebound.

Wake after 4 hours sleep and take 16 mg Galantamine and another 600 mg of alpha GPC and a tablet of high strength vitamin B. The one I’m using has 714 times the RDA of B6, so pretty high. The B vitamin might be unneeded, but there’s a lot of research showing that B6 increases both dream recall and vividity.

It should be noted that I regularly go to sleep around 2:30-3am, so other people might have to find the right places within their own circadian rhythm – this is what works for me.

I also take Piracetam after the Lucid Dreams to counter the effects of the Galantamine – I've read this stops tolerance building.

At first the 16 mg Galantamine was too much, but taking it at the correct time within the sleep cycle (and perhaps a certain familiarity with its effects at this dose) ensures it doesn't affect getting back to sleep.

I have been using a mind machine over the past week (a Laxman), and using it while meditating, this might explain the lucidity and control felt in this morning’s experiments.

On taking the Galantamine this morning, I did a breath based meditation, which led me into sleep. Also, when going to sleep last night, I set the intent to have an OBE or a Lucid Dream while also doing a breath based meditation.

The Lucid Dreams themselves were just phenomenal. They started off a bit hazy and perhaps driven by base desire (a link with the initial low lucidity?) but after utilising a tactile based reinforcement technique (stamping my feet and clapping my hands hard) they quickly turned into experiences in which I had full emotional and tactile sensation. At one point I tasted a bit of card, and I could feel its glossy texture on my tongue. It was pretty amazing.

The characters I interacted with in the LDs seemed fully aware and capable of deep conversation.

I experienced no sleep paralysis just LD after LD, after false awakening, after LD. I actually didn't know how to wake up! I've never experienced anything like this before, usually LDs don’t last long and one tries to extend them, but I felt like I’d been in the LDs for hours and I couldn't wake up. I physically felt apprehension for a short while and went and spoke to one of the LD characters near me at the time about this.

Not long after this I woke up very groggy, and asked my wife if I was awake, I then stumbled to the window and opened it, and climbed onto the sill. She was shouting that I was awake and to get away from the window. Waves were crashing below, which should have told me that I was still in a LD. She pulled me from the window and back into bed. Not long after I managed to force myself awake. I think the hazy nature was because I was near waking, so neither reality or the LD environment had complete grasp of my senses.

During the LDs I seemed to have complete control. At one point I wanted to visit my daughter, and I found myself in a locale which was touched with her presence. It looked more child-like. I found her and picked her up and walked with her for a while.

After some time we found ourselves in a narrow passage, flanked on each side by tall, old stone brick walls. Trees were overhead, and I sensed we were in a countryside locale. At one end of the passage was an unkempt looking youth, at the other a fox like beast.

The youth was telling me the beast was dangerous and I should stay away. I next seemed to be infused with knowledge of the situation, I flew up to get a view of the area I was in, and was experiencing an influx of knowledge. The people the youth belong to had taken some of the fox like beasts ancestors into captivity and bred them with other creatures. They had created a troll like form of the fox creature and now there was animosity on both sides.

Other experiences included flying military style helicopters while shouting with glee as I swooped at high speed across a green countryside landscape. I was talking to other people in nearby helicopters joining me in this game.

I had quite a few experiences of speaking to people I know in RL, they were highly articulate, and we could have full conversations. But they didn't recognise me. It was interesting to note the expressions moving across their face as they tried to work out who I was.

Most of the experiences were bright and good. A couple were dark - interestingly, it was when I entered dark rooms that I felt any negative presence, or felt constrained by an negative entity. But having such a degree of lucidity, I easily escaped these situations.

I'm still smiling as I type up these experiences. Again, I've never experienced not being able to wake up from LDs before!




Galantamine effects the acetylcholine receptors, nicotine does also, which explains its effects in inducing LD's (for people who haven't built a tolerance to nicotine.)

I can induce LD's without using substances, but it usually requires a fair bit of work beforehand, these substances make it a lot easier and also make the LD's a lot more coherent and longer lasting.



sounds interesting, weird that I'd not heard of it before. Doesn't seem scheduled either. I'll have to try it

I suppose nothing dream related is scheduled :lol:

quite the dream experience! read it all. I'm able to LD somewhat reliably if its on my mind a lot at the time. Haven't gotten nearly as deep as you have though. Mine always end really quickly.

I've tried rubbing my hands together in LD to achieve tactile sensation and enhance lucidity, but it hasn't worked very well. I like the idea of stomping your feet and clapping much better. Maybe slap myself in the face. Or maybe pinching yourself achieves the best results and that's where that saying originated from :grin:

I have a feeling that the info you just gave me may help my dreaming immensely. I thank you :hatsoff:


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21940046 - 07/13/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

im sure someone could fall asleep if they really wanted to micro dosing ive done it a couple times and stayed up just so i can see what affects such small doses had to offer.

im sure it could affect dreams most psyches do IME.

cigarettes and nicotine will make it harder to dream and recollect them. just some advise.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21940087 - 07/14/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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im sure someone could fall asleep if they really wanted to micro dosing ive done it a couple times and stayed up just so i can see what affects such small doses had to offer.

im sure it could affect dreams most psyches do IME.

cigarettes and nicotine will make it harder to dream and recollect them. just some advise.



what makes you say that about nicotine?


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21940096 - 07/14/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i read about it alot when trying to quit years ago that when you quit you dream more vividly and much more often than if you smoke cigs are ingest nicotine.

im sure you could read more about it online. its been years since ive researched all that dream stuff.


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    #21940295 - 07/14/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I still don't understand why everyone gets inhibited dreams from weed :frown:

It seems to enhance my dream memory a thousand-fold. I remember my dreams maybe 4 out of 7 days of weed whereas normally it would be like one a month if I am lucky.

It's actually bugging me, I only start to dream 2-3 hours before I wake up and when the dreams get intense I end up waking up earlier than I would like because the second I close my eyes again I go right back into the dream


But yeah, I smoke a lot of weed, especially before bed, and it not only helps me remember my dreams but it seems to make them much more vivid as well, it's hard to tell when it's a dream and when it's not.


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    #21940363 - 07/14/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I remember my dreams maybe 4 out of 7 days of weed.



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    #21940476 - 07/14/15 03:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i;ve fallen asleep on the comup of lsa
very vildy fun dream
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Melatonin blows.


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ur so wrong
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    #21941064 - 07/14/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've wanted to try this with ACRB/PHS yage, take a few small sips before sleep.

I take peganum harmala seeds before sleep from time to time, not in a 3g dose, maybe half that, and it does appear to enhance my dreaming experience, keep in mind these doses shouldn't do all that much to you otherwise, I mean I can tell there's harmine in my system, but those not as sensitive May not even notice it.

Aren't their nootropics that claim to enhance dreaming?

Has anybody had experience with compounds specifically for dreaming like Calea zacatechichi?

-E. Borodin




I've heard good things about nootropics and dreaming but haven't personally tested. I cannot sleep with psychedelics either... Maybe weed would help, but I'm curious to test it out.

What would be considered a micro dose? Less than 1g?




3g is the effective dose for MAO inhibition as well as psychological effects.

Before I sleep I take anywhere from a small pinch to 1.5g of the powdered peganum harmala seeds, in low dose harmala alkaloids induce a drowsey state, and seem to intensify my dreams.

Calea zacatechichi is an herb specifically for dreaming, I have heard it doesn't do much otherwise, but is amazing for dreams. I have not tested it, but it's available through several ethnobotanical vendors, and may be interesting to experiment with.

Can anybody recommend  a specific nootropic for dreaming?

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    #21941151 - 07/14/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Melatonin blows.




Though it's hard to discern any effects from melatonin it is N-acetyl-5-methoxy-tryptamine, it's produced in the pineal body from serotonin, pinoline (6-MEO-tetrahydro-beta-Carboline) is also produced by the pineal body via melatonin metabolization. Pinoline is near identical to the harmala alkaloids in peganum harmala and banisteriopsis caapi plants. Pinoline is also found in higher levels in buddhist monks and yogis. So if your consuming melatonin which is converted to pinoline, then melatonin (aside from regulating circadian rhythm and other hormonal functions) is having a neurochemical effect which can enhance dreaming and spiritual preceptions by increasing levels of pinoline as well as other endogenous tryptamine neurotransmitters which may have an effect on dreaming and mystical states...
(Due to all this tryptamine chemistry, many speculate that endogenous DMT is produced in the pineal body, and speculate that stimulation of the pineal body increases endogenous DMT levels)
(It's also speculated that DMT May play a role in REM sleep, which is why I want to microdose yage before bed, because it would be raising levels of pinoline similar beta-Carbolines (harmine/harmaline/THH) as well as DMT, and may have an effect on dreaming.)



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    #21941336 - 07/14/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Coincidentiaoppositorum said:
I've wanted to try this with ACRB/PHS yage, take a few small sips before sleep.

I take peganum harmala seeds before sleep from time to time, not in a 3g dose, maybe half that, and it does appear to enhance my dreaming experience, keep in mind these doses shouldn't do all that much to you otherwise, I mean I can tell there's harmine in my system, but those not as sensitive May not even notice it.

Aren't their nootropics that claim to enhance dreaming?

Has anybody had experience with compounds specifically for dreaming like Calea zacatechichi?

-E. Borodin




I've heard good things about nootropics and dreaming but haven't personally tested. I cannot sleep with psychedelics either... Maybe weed would help, but I'm curious to test it out.

What would be considered a micro dose? Less than 1g?




3g is the effective dose for MAO inhibition as well as psychological effects.

Before I sleep I take anywhere from a small pinch to 1.5g of the powdered peganum harmala seeds, in low dose harmala alkaloids induce a drowsey state, and seem to intensify my dreams.

Calea zacatechichi is an herb specifically for dreaming, I have heard it doesn't do much otherwise, but is amazing for dreams. I have not tested it, but it's available through several ethnobotanical vendors, and may be interesting to experiment with.

Can anybody recommend  a specific nootropic for dreaming?

-E. Borodin



calea seems to put me in a weird headspace. Hard to describe but I think I get some effects


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    #21941723 - 07/14/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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how much calea do you typically smoke to get effects?




Its not incredibly potent, i just pack a bowl or joint and see how it goes, right before bedtime is best
Its a good sleep aid at higher dose, with a slight headspace similar to a heavy indica


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how much calea do you typically smoke to get effects?




Its not incredibly potent, i just pack a bowl or joint and see how it goes, right before bedtime is best
Its a good sleep aid at higher dose, with a slight headspace similar to a heavy indica



tried a good sized bowl of calea last night along with 3 small mushrooms.

Didn't remember any dreams. But I did smoke bud late in the day too


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    #21941762 - 07/14/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I can't sleep even after a micro dose of shrooms. Piracetam is a better option for dream enhancement and recall. It works 10000x better than micro dose psychs and you can sleep on it.


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    #21941846 - 07/14/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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im sure someone could fall asleep if they really wanted to micro dosing ive done it a couple times and stayed up just so i can see what affects such small doses had to offer.

im sure it could affect dreams most psyches do IME.

cigarettes and nicotine will make it harder to dream and recollect them. just some advise.




Last trip I had for a good long while now, I got home after a long day and got drunk. On a drunkern impulse I decided to dose some shrooms and waiting to come up I actually fell asleep and awoke tripping out of my mind.

I know I was also having some fucked up crazy dreams before waking up, within which I was dreaming and tripping balls at the same time. Obviously what with the drink and being unconcious at the time its not all that easy to remember but it was rather out of control as I recall, very sinister and alien. Perhaps it was just violently trying to wake me up! Havent tripped since.

Tryptamines man, even if you fall asleep coming up can be rough!


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    #21941919 - 07/14/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I can't sleep even after a micro dose of shrooms. Piracetam is a better option for dream enhancement and recall. It works 10000x better than micro dose psychs and you can sleep on it.



Hadn't heard of that. The reports on erowid sound quite promising.


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    #21941933 - 07/14/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think I'm going to have to try this stuff. Sounds like a marvelous social enhancer. Would be nice to try before a D&D session or a party


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    #21942587 - 07/14/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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im sure someone could fall asleep if they really wanted to micro dosing ive done it a couple times and stayed up just so i can see what affects such small doses had to offer.

im sure it could affect dreams most psyches do IME.

cigarettes and nicotine will make it harder to dream and recollect them. just some advise.




Last trip I had for a good long while now, I got home after a long day and got drunk. On a drunkern impulse I decided to dose some shrooms and waiting to come up I actually fell asleep and awoke tripping out of my mind.

I know I was also having some fucked up crazy dreams before waking up, within which I was dreaming and tripping balls at the same time. Obviously what with the drink and being unconcious at the time its not all that easy to remember but it was rather out of control as I recall, very sinister and alien. Perhaps it was just violently trying to wake me up! Havent tripped since.

Tryptamines man, even if you fall asleep coming up can be rough!





one time fell asleep on an 8th to avoid a bad trip because the dude i was with said he wanted to punch me in the face for dropping out of school, had some weird dream but hard to remember them now. woke up tripping and thought rob dyrdek was god for a sec. i dont even really like the dude but i was TRIPPIN.

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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21942814 - 07/14/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Why the fuck can't people understand you can't say shit like that to people while they're tripping. I was frying on an eighth of mushrooms and I went to go lay down in my buddy's rooms because I was tripping way to hard and only knew like half the people there, anyways as I'm laying down I hear my friend super drunk just yelling that I should stop taking Xanax :rolleyes: pissed me the fuck off because then everyone thought I was just some junkie getting all fucked up on bars.

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    #21942819 - 07/14/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

rbalzer, you should set your alarm for 2 or 3 hours before you would normally wake up, and dose then.

You'll be so tired from just waking up , you should fall back to sleep straight away. If its a small enough dose hopefully you'll stay asleep.

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    #21943225 - 07/14/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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rbalzer, you should set your alarm for 2 or 3 hours before you would normally wake up, and dose then.

You'll be so tired from just waking up , you should fall back to sleep straight away. If its a small enough dose hopefully you'll stay asleep.

When the peak hits you should be in heavy REM



thats not a bad idea. I usually wake up around 6 AM every night anyway.


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    #21944115 - 07/14/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've tried this before but I struggle to sleep for several hours after microdosing, it usually energises my mind and I can't stop thinking enough to sleep.

After a heavy dose at midday I do sleep well but I haven't seen a noticeable difference of my dreams after ingesting psilocybin.

I do however use circaden branded melatonin 30 mins before I go to sleep and it almost always induces vivid, surreal lucid dreams were I am aware of whats going on and can control my surroundings and behaviour to a large extent.

instead of dosing shrooms i'd recommend melatonin, from experience melatonin works 90% of the time at enhancing dreams, shrooms maybe 15%.


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    #21944428 - 07/14/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Why the fuck can't people understand you can't say shit like that to people while they're tripping. I was frying on an eighth of mushrooms and I went to go lay down in my buddy's rooms because I was tripping way to hard and only knew like half the people there, anyways as I'm laying down I hear my friend super drunk just yelling that I should stop taking Xanax :rolleyes: pissed me the fuck off because then everyone thought I was just some junkie getting all fucked up on bars.

Drunk people are literally the worst people to be around while on psychedelics.




one time when me and a friend were tripping i told him i would kick his ass in a video game jokingly, and he got really upset. but the thing is before we were ever friends i actually did fight him and beat him up when we were both in 3rd grade.

anyways he got in my face and i wasnt sure how to diffuse the situation because we were both peaking. so it dies down and im feeling very wierd in his house, and i ask him wheres your dog. but his dog had just died weeks earlier, he said he told me, but i know he didnt, because we were just talking about his grandfathers death the week prior. And then im like i should just leave, cause i could se he wanted to cry, and he really hated me in that moment.

so a 3rd sober friend, walks in and says to chill out to me. and im like really fucked up because i cant seem to say anything right and i remember he let me sit in his very nice leather chair, probably worth 1000 dollars. i say thank you for letting me sit in your chair, and he perks up and say it is nice isnt it. And im like yea you should be thankful, in my head it didnt sound rude, but it really was. and he was like why i paid for it, and at this point i realize i upset him again, and i walk out of his house and leave, and then they call me up even more upset because they dont want me to get arrested for walking around on acid at 1 in the morning. so they have to pick me up and take me back and then the whole trip was silent as fuck after that.

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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: LackToast]
    #21946899 - 07/15/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Smoked more calea last night and remembered my dreams quite well.

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Why the fuck can't people understand you can't say shit like that to people while they're tripping. I was frying on an eighth of mushrooms and I went to go lay down in my buddy's rooms because I was tripping way to hard and only knew like half the people there, anyways as I'm laying down I hear my friend super drunk just yelling that I should stop taking Xanax :rolleyes: pissed me the fuck off because then everyone thought I was just some junkie getting all fucked up on bars.

Drunk people are literally the worst people to be around while on psychedelics.




one time when me and a friend were tripping i told him i would kick his ass in a video game jokingly, and he got really upset. but the thing is before we were ever friends i actually did fight him and beat him up when we were both in 3rd grade.

anyways he got in my face and i wasnt sure how to diffuse the situation because we were both peaking. so it dies down and im feeling very wierd in his house, and i ask him wheres your dog. but his dog had just died weeks earlier, he said he told me, but i know he didnt, because we were just talking about his grandfathers death the week prior. And then im like i should just leave, cause i could se he wanted to cry, and he really hated me in that moment.

so a 3rd sober friend, walks in and says to chill out to me. and im like really fucked up because i cant seem to say anything right and i remember he let me sit in his very nice leather chair, probably worth 1000 dollars. i say thank you for letting me sit in your chair, and he perks up and say it is nice isnt it. And im like yea you should be thankful, in my head it didnt sound rude, but it really was. and he was like why i paid for it, and at this point i realize i upset him again, and i walk out of his house and leave, and then they call me up even more upset because they dont want me to get arrested for walking around on acid at 1 in the morning. so they have to pick me up and take me back and then the whole trip was silent as fuck after that.

unsurprisingly, we havent talked in a few years.



I've had a similar experience. Kept saying things with good intentions that really upset my friend. Its a hard thing to stop doing in the moment.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21947008 - 07/15/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yea it really its hard to control your stupidity when tripping. As for the question at hand ifeel like tripping in your dreams would be a waste of acid, but thats because i dont come around it that often. And if taking enough to where you actually could be tripping, i would be to anxious to fall asleep anyways.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: LackToast]
    #21947124 - 07/15/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah psilocybin seems like it might not be the best tool for the job. definitely wouldn't waste rare LSD on dreaming experiments.

I'm interested in extracting muscimol from amanita muscaria and using that for dreaming. Or maybe I'll just make a tea.


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Yeah psilocybin seems like it might not be the best tool for the job. definitely wouldn't waste rare LSD on dreaming experiments.

I'm interested in extracting muscimol from amanita muscaria and using that for dreaming. Or maybe I'll just make a tea.




Muscimol (and ibotonic acid and other alkaloids found in amanita muscuria) is the only psychoactive associated with psychedelics that I have not tried.

It was described to me as a deleriant, when I hear that word I always think of my experiences with atropine/scopolomine via datura species, which were horrible, I actually did derive some meaningful gnosis from from a high dose datura tea experiance, but it was something I would NEVER want to repeat, these compounds are poisons that cause hallucination, not psychedelics...

Any way it's scared me away from testing amanita muscuria. Is there anything worth experiencing involved with the compounds in this species? Or is it a deleriant?

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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21955926 - 07/17/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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These compounds are poisons that cause hallucination, not psychedelics.

Any way it's scared me away from testing amanita muscuria. Is there anything worth experiencing involved with the compounds in this species? Or is it a deleriant?




Low to medium doses of fly agaric (1-7g) can be very visionary, emotional, peaceful and euphoric.
Higher doses tend to be rough and chaotic, frantic, hard to remember. Kind of delirant, yes, but it will not produce any real hallucinations. It's more of a trippy drunkenness.

Dosing too high, Datura will make you black out for days and you will see and talk to people that are not there, and you might also black out totally but be able to walk around and talk to others as if you are sober.
When you wake up after days you have no recollection of the "trip"..

Fly agaric doesn't wort this way! If you take too much, you will sleep deeply, nothing more. Never ever did a person die from eating fly agaric, that's a myth!
The worst thing that can happen to you is that you vomit heavyly, and than black out and take a deep sleep for 10 hours or so weaking up pretty refreshed.

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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21956690 - 07/17/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've noticed Celastrus Paniculatus seeds help me dream pretty well, also seems to help in the recalling of the dreams a bit. I've been taking 15 seeds nightly for about a week now, i'm definitely noticing benefits from it and not just in the dream department.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Sabnock]
    #21956746 - 07/17/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The matrix movie is a pretty good picturation of lucid dreaming vs this reality

There are gatekeepers in lucid dreaming reality that you must face to gain access to source/reprogram your reality/control your reality

It's your shadow

You can also jump out of buildings and fly, teleport in lucid dreams

And even weirder, false awakenings

Waking up where you went to bed, thinking you are awake, going to work/school
Only to find out something is 'slightly off' that day, and suddenly something chases you and you can fly/jump out of the building, or crawl up the air at school


Nothing is better than lucid dreaming, it's so intense, flying is the best feeling ever


You won't get there easier by tripping I think, tripping reduced my amount usually
It requires a very clear mind to get there and control your reality

No coffee, no weed, no psychedelics, do exercise before bed (so you sleep more relaxed)

I used to cycle 20km before bed then I often got LDs, relaxed mind and body a lot


The key is dream journal for me, always do dream journal each morning when you wake up(within 1-2 secs of waking up, else the dream is already forgotten..)
When you start to remember 2-3 dreams each night, you are almost assured the lucid dreams start

You will get success within a few weeks with the WB2B / WILD methods this way, at least they work for me

www.ld4all.nl


Lucid dremaing is like awakening in this reality, you think it was real, but then it was just a dream
You could be living your whole life in a dream, that's how real it feels


Unlike tripping you cannot hurt yourself inside it, because your body is paralyzed, but that doesn't mean you should not respect it
You can lose parts of yourself if you do it wrongly

Respecting it is not taking other drugs IMO , I have tried dream herb, salvia, ilex guayusa , none helped reliably
Salvia gave me 3 dreams a night, too intense, and not very controlable, uncontrolable very lucid dreams


The real control is always from a pure and relaxed mind

What psychedelics do is make it harder to have analytical thought, and that can make it harder to find out your reality is "fake"
You need that clearmindedness to attain lucidity...

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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: lessismore]
    #21956774 - 07/17/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Mirrors are especially interesting in lucid dreams, have you ever tried looking into a mirror in one?;-)

Looks pretty surreal... , just like light switches that never work too


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: lessismore]
    #21956814 - 07/17/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dejavú , did you just see that cat pass twice? - then you must be dreaming ;P


Reality checking can make people insane... happened to a few people they say on ld4all/dreamviews forum


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21959387 - 07/18/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Pandemoon said:
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said:
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These compounds are poisons that cause hallucination, not psychedelics.

Any way it's scared me away from testing amanita muscuria. Is there anything worth experiencing involved with the compounds in this species? Or is it a deleriant?




Low to medium doses of fly agaric (1-7g) can be very visionary, emotional, peaceful and euphoric.
Higher doses tend to be rough and chaotic, frantic, hard to remember. Kind of delirant, yes, but it will not produce any real hallucinations. It's more of a trippy drunkenness.

Dosing too high, Datura will make you black out for days and you will see and talk to people that are not there, and you might also black out totally but be able to walk around and talk to others as if you are sober.
When you wake up after days you have no recollection of the "trip"..

Fly agaric doesn't wort this way! If you take too much, you will sleep deeply, nothing more. Never ever did a person die from eating fly agaric, that's a myth!
The worst thing that can happen to you is that you vomit heavyly, and than black out and take a deep sleep for 10 hours or so weaking up pretty refreshed.

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Good to know.

Thanks,

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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: lessismore]
    #21959397 - 07/18/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Mirrors are especially interesting in lucid dreams, have you ever tried looking into a mirror in one?;-)

Looks pretty surreal... , just like light switches that never work too




I always look different in my dreams, my hair will be short or my beard will be gone, or I'll be covered in tattoos that I don't have and so on...

I've been eating "XTC" pills in my dreams recently, I don't roll though, they induce a mescaline like experience...

I also had a dream of being in a car that someone was driving in reverse down a long winding road, I wake up and turn on CNN and they are reporting a story about a car in Hollywood driving trunk first for miles...all caught on tape...

What a ridiculous piece of media flosom to become synchronicity in my life....

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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21959488 - 07/18/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nutmeg does it for me.  Even a normal dose used in cooking is enough to give me intense and strange dreams.


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    #21959752 - 07/18/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

DXM induces what could be called a dissacociative day dream, like dreaming with your eyes open. Fun =)

If anyone's ever tried a antihistamine trip, it's very similar.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Electric Toaster]
    #21959761 - 07/18/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've tried nutmeg a few years a go and ate 50g from a tub, it was a great feeling but it lasted for ages and had a lot of nausea during.

I haven't tried it in oil before but I'll give it a shot, I coincidentally have a bag of whole nutmegs on my table to try it with after reading this.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21959771 - 07/18/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Synchronicity is a stark reminder that statistical probability can be beaten.
It can also be a lovely feeling, if not a shocking at times too.


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    #21960181 - 07/18/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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lessismore said:
Mirrors are especially interesting in lucid dreams, have you ever tried looking into a mirror in one?;-)

Looks pretty surreal... , just like light switches that never work too




I always look different in my dreams, my hair will be short or my beard will be gone, or I'll be covered in tattoos that I don't have and so on...

I've been eating "XTC" pills in my dreams recently, I don't roll though, they induce a mescaline like experience...

I also had a dream of being in a car that someone was driving in reverse down a long winding road, I wake up and turn on CNN and they are reporting a story about a car in Hollywood driving trunk first for miles...all caught on tape...

What a ridiculous piece of media flosom to become synchronicity in my life....

-E. Borodin




Take the red pill , the one with the big X on ;-)

You may wake up in another dream


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22579714 - 11/26/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Any time I try to post I'm told I don't have permission, but let's see if this works...
Listeners of the Joe Rogan Experience know that one excellent supplement for dreaming is called Alpha Brain.  It enhances cognition during the day, but if you don't take it in the AM and instead take two capsules about four hours before bed it'll give you some CRAZY dreams (supposing you remember them.)  I mean like nicotine patch dreams minus their tendency toward terror lol.  One great way to remember dreams is to wake up to an alarm.  Also, try to learn to be still when you wake up.  Moving your legs is strangely enough associated with the loss of dream memories since the muscle movement causes your brain to wake up further.  If I'm not mistaken, the reason so many people forget dreams is because sleep cycles.  Dreams usually occur during REM sleep, but if you sleep until you naturally wake up then you tend to sleep past the end of REM.  If you're woken up during a dream or toward the end of the dream you have a much higher likelihood of remembering it.  Alpha Brain is available on like from Onnit.com.
The ingredients are as follows:
Serving size: 2 capsules
10mg Vitamin B6 (as Pyridoxine HCl)
650mg L-Tyrosine, L-Theanine, Oat (straw) Extract, Phosphatidylserine ("Onnit Flow Blend)
350mg ac11 Cat's Claw (bark) Extract
240mg L-Alpha glycerylphosphorycholine (Alpha-GPC,) Bacopa monnieri (aerial parts) Extract, Huperzia serrata (aerial parts) Extract ("Onnit Focus Blend")
65mg L-Leucine, Vinpocetine, Pterostilbene ("Onnit Fuel Blend")

Other ingredients: Vegetarian Capsule (cellulose, water,) Silica.
Contains Soy (Alpha GPC and Phospholipids are derived from soy.)


A lot of people call it bullshit and are skeptical but studies show it's way more effective than placebo, and all the study data is available on Onnit.com.  Maybe folks just aren't in time with their bodies and minds and don't notice the effects of Alpha Brain for them, and others will feel relatively marked effects.  I for one find that it helps greatly with preventing that shitty state where you forget a word and are stuck sitting there trying to think of the goddamn thing, and other cognitive lags like that, and it makes me feel far more fluid in terms of lucidity and cognition.  Onnit is the shit too because for your first order of a bottle of 30 if you don't like it they'll refund the cost no questions and you don't even have to ship anything back to them.  Good folks.

I'm not sure how the ingredients interact with mushrooms, or if they do at all, but I know there's tons of anecdotal evidence that things like 5HTP can dull the effects of DMT and psilocybin pretty drastically.  I'm sure it doesn't create any physically dangerous interactions, but I wouldn't mix anything like this with an MAOI like B. Caapi or Peganum harmala.  Anyway, Alpha Brain has given me some fucking crazy hilarious dreams though.  The kind of stuff I'll wake up from and immediately sit bolt upright and transcribe into my notes app.  Anyway, give it a shot if you're into lucid dreaming or just dreams in general.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: ObeyCamp222]
    #22580563 - 11/27/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thank user blankk for this reference

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A test matrix utilizing six different supplements: galantamine, huperzine A,
nicotine, bupropion, propranolol, and an amino acid blend was used to show that lucid
dreams are strongly facilitated when two neurochemical events take place
simultaneously: (1) dopaminergic and adrenergic stimulation coupled with (2)
cholinergic and/or glutamateric stimulation.

The substances were chosen due to their different pharmacological properties and
several combinations resulted in lucid dreams 100% of the time. The two most successful
combinations were galantamine/propranolol and the amino acid blend however other
combinations also led to very high success rates: huperzine/bupropion,
galantamine/nicotine, and huperzine/nicotine






http://www.shroomery.org/forums/download.php?Number=20423255


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